Inherent Differences Between Men and Women

[renee]

What makes women so scared or uninterested?

Where did this kind of think originate from? Those seem rather silly assumptions.

Socialization!

 

[dairyair]

Socialization!

Or a lack of?

Those barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen didn't have much socialization.

 

[renee]

Or a lack of?

Those barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen didn't have much socialization.

Isn’t that where they belong? (Sarcasm )

 

[Bodi]

And girls were discouraged. And boys were encouraged, and all that became internalized.

Not for a long time...

Educators and society encourage everybody to do their best at whatever they want to do...

 

[Bodi]

What makes women so scared or uninterested?

I don't think that they are scared...

Where did this kind of think originate from? Those seem rather silly assumptions.

If it is not parents and teachers that are discouraging a person then it must be that person...

Are those reasons blacks are far superior at picking cotton than white folks?
More confidence, personal interest, and choice?

Nothing at all to do with external forces.

LOL


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[NolanVoyd]

Not for a long time...

Educators and society encourage everybody to do their best at whatever they want to do...

These days it is boys that are falling behind academically.

boys on average start school academically behind girls and remain that way throughout their schooling. They graduate high school at lower rates than girls and, if they do graduate, are more likely to have grades in the bottom of the class than the top. If they go to college, which fewer of them now do, boys are less likely than girls to attain a degree. For many boys of color, these negative trends are even more pronounced. Additionally, the CDC reports that boys are nearly twice as likely as girls to be diagnosed with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and are more often medicated for it.


These unsettling outcomes for boys are prompting parents and educators to create innovative schooling solutions that enable all children, and especially boys, to thrive.

Boys Are Falling Behind But New School Models Can Help

Poor outcomes for boys are prompting parents and educators to create innovative schooling solutions that enable all children, and especially boys, to thrive.

www.forbes.com

 

[Bodi]

These days it is boys that are falling behind academically.

Yep.

boys on average start school academically behind girls and remain that way throughout their schooling. They graduate high school at lower rates than girls and, if they do graduate, are more likely to have grades in the bottom of the class than the top. If they go to college, which fewer of them now do, boys are less likely than girls to attain a degree. For many boys of color, these negative trends are even more pronounced. Additionally, the CDC reports that boys are nearly twice as likely as girls to be diagnosed with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and are more often medicated for it.


These unsettling outcomes for boys are prompting parents and educators to create innovative schooling solutions that enable all children, and especially boys, to thrive.

Boys Are Falling Behind But New School Models Can Help

Poor outcomes for boys are prompting parents and educators to create innovative schooling solutions that enable all children, and especially boys, to thrive.

www.forbes.com

Every year the number of good girl students is much higher than the number of good boy students


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[Lursa]

Yep.

Every year the number of good girl students is much higher than the number of good boy students

Sounds like once we were allowed, socially and practically, we stretched our wings and flew. That's where encouragement and social acceptance is working. Sounds like you are framing boys as victims. How are/were they victimized?

 

[NolanVoyd]

Sounds like once we were allowed, socially and practically, we stretched our wings and flew. That's where encouragement and social acceptance is working. Sounds like you are framing boys as victims. How are/were they victimized?

It's not about victimization it's about facts.

The fact is that boys are way more likely then girls to drop out of high school, way less likely to go to and graduate from college, etc.

Time for educational rescue mission for boys.

 

[Lursa]

It's not about victimization it's about facts.

The fact is that boys are way more likely then girls to drop out of high school, way less likely to go to and graduate from college, etc.

Time for educational rescue mission for boys.

OK...but are their failures the fault of girls/women? Based on the OP....I'm discussing how the differences became less with different societal views, more opportunities, more encouragement, etc.

What point is being made pointing out those facts? I'm open to hearing it. When did schools start offering fewer opportunities and classes, etc for boys?

 

[NolanVoyd]

OK...but are their failures the fault of girls/women?

no.

Obviously not.

It's not the fault of boys/men either.

It's a problem that needs to be adressed.

 

[Lursa]

no.

Obviously not.

It's not the fault of boys/men either.

It's a broblem that needs to be adressed.

What has caused what you're referring to? What are the causal factors and from what sources? What needs to be changed?

 

[NolanVoyd]

What has caused what you're referring to? What are the causal factors and from what sources? What needs to be changed?

I am no expert.

The article covers some of that.

 

[renee]

Not for a long time...

Educators and society encourage everybody to do their best at whatever they want to do...

Unfortunately, not as much as we would like to think. The big change I have seen working with teenagers is their attitude toward gay people. They can’t understand what the big deal is all about that people get so upset. I was happy about that.

 

[BirdinHand]

It's not about victimization it's about facts.

The fact is that boys are way more likely then girls to drop out of high school, way less likely to go to and graduate from college, etc.

Time for educational rescue mission for boys.

no.

Obviously not.

It's not the fault of boys/men either.

It's a problem that needs to be adressed.

Traditional classrooms and education are not designed for excellence and achievement

It’s designed to achieve X level of economic productivity…and was designed in an era where that was a much lower bar.

We treat public education like an old fashioned factory and we treat kids like widgets.

Sit in this desk and do this work and regurgitate these facts at a level that meets productivity standards.


Kids aren’t widgets.
Education and learning isn’t a production line.


The entire system needs an overhaul

 

[NolanVoyd]

What has caused what you're referring to? What are the causal factors and from what sources? What needs to be changed?

More.

Why School Isn't Working for Many Boys and What Could Help

Teachers report in a new survey that boys are less focused and engaged than their female counterparts.

www.edweek.org

 

[renee]

I don't think that they are scared...



If it is not parents and teachers that are discouraging a person then it must be that person...



LOL


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It’s peer pressure! And societal pressure

 

[renee]

Sounds like once we were allowed, socially and practically, we stretched our wings and flew. That's where encouragement and social acceptance is working. Sounds like you are framing boys as victims. How are/were they victimized?

I am so glad that you can take so much for granted. A lot of young women today don’t realize the struggle that went into the women’s movement.

 

[BirdinHand]

More.

Why School Isn't Working for Many Boys and What Could Help

Teachers report in a new survey that boys are less focused and engaged than their female counterparts.

www.edweek.org

Boys learn better from hands on engagement - from doing not reading what it is that they’re supposed to do.

And boys are active. Boys learn by doing. Boys - especially young boys - don’t do well sitting still.


(I’m not saying girls aren’t - I’m just pointing out a difference)

 

[Lursa]

I am no expert.

The article covers some of that.

OK. Been awhile since I looked at the OP article.

 

[Lursa]

I am so glad that you can take so much for granted. A lot of young women today don’t realize the struggle that went into the women’s movement.

I've been around thru the whole thing. Well, not '20s sufferage.

 

[NolanVoyd]

OK. Been awhile since I looked at the OP article.

Sorry, not that one. The one I posted. From Forbes.

The one I posted in 91 explains it to some extent as well

 

[Bodi]

Unfortunately, not as much as we would like to think.

It is actually a pretty substantial change in attitudes towards gender roles as well as career choices...








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[Bodi]

It’s peer pressure! And societal pressure

Girls don't take physics because of peer pressure?



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[CLAX1911]

Socialization!

Why doesn't it work on boys?