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Industrial Revolution 2000 years ago?

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Imagine if Heron of Alexandria's steam machine had been adobted by the Roman public.
Much of the ancient technology went unutilised just to disappear,just imagine where we would be today had it been embraced by people of the time,or would we have self destructed a long time ago?
 

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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Imagine if Heron of Alexandria's steam machine had been adobted by the Roman public.
I know. But that would have made them less powerful then they were (to themselves). Oh my! a foreigner built such a machine, we cannot accept this.. this would make us less powerful etc etc.

That would be really, really weird if they did accept it.
 
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Arch Enemy said:
I know. But that would have made them less powerful then they were (to themselves). Oh my! a foreigner built such a machine, we cannot accept this.. this would make us less powerful etc etc.

That would be really, really weird if they did accept it.
Heron's inventions were used extensively by the Romans. I'm not sure, but I believe he was a Roman citizen, Alexandria was a part of the Roman empire after all, I believe the real reason why it was not implemented was because of the use of slave labor which was cheap and plentiful at the time, this eliminated the necessity for automation in construction of goods and the like.
 

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Well, we saw what ignorant brute force did to science and culture when Sparta took Athens, throwing the region into another 900-1000 years of illiteracy.
 

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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Heron's inventions were used extensively by the Romans. I'm not sure, but I believe he was a Roman citizen, Alexandria was a part of the Roman empire after all, I believe the real reason why it was not implemented was because of the use of slave labor which was cheap and plentiful at the time, this eliminated the necessity for automation in construction of goods and the like.
The Romans didn't consider people outside of Latium area as "citizens". They were subjects, under Roman Authority. They were also considered inferior, for they were the more recent opponents of the Roman Empire.

The Romans did like technology and the advancement in this area. They thought that if they could stop the advancement of techonology they'd always be the greatest Empire.
 

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if only egos were not invovled...
 
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Arch Enemy said:
The Romans didn't consider people outside of Latium area as "citizens". They were subjects, under Roman Authority. They were also considered inferior, for they were the more recent opponents of the Roman Empire.

The Romans did like technology and the advancement in this area. They thought that if they could stop the advancement of techonology they'd always be the greatest Empire.
Romans stopped the advancment of tech? Rome industry and engineering was pretty interesting tonight on the history channel, I suggest you watch it.
 

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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Athens still stands, Sparta has gone the way of the unicorn, Athens won in the long run.
After a 1000 year setback
 
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