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'We don't offer same sex marriage cakes. It's not a product offering in our product line.' ?
No, this is not accurate at all.
Have you ever noticed those signs stating: "We reserve the right to refuse service"? Those signs are affirming that the owner retains the right to refuse service for reasons not centered on a protected ground. For example:
- Owner: You cant wear baggy pants here and other clothes that I deem to be street gang wear.
- Potential customer (black male): But I have legitimate business here.
- Owner: Then change clothes and come back.
In short, "Black male wearing bayy pants" is no more a protected class than "white male wearing a rebel pride T-shirt". Both of us can be refused, and I have seen it happen for the baggy pants guys. likewise, a group of CSA afficionados decked out in CSA uniforms was told to leave a shopping mall in Lousiana.
That of course is the goal, to force Christians (mostly) out of the marketplace unless they conform to the homosexual agenda. This is what passes for tolerance these days. Conform or be harmed
Shame on the State of Indiana, especially their bigoted Governor and legislature. You would think that in 2015 we would be beyond this type of hatred and bigotry. This simply shows that for all the progress that America has made, we are still a long ways away from being a country that treats everyone fairly and equally. The bigots will lose.....but the battle remains.
LDS provided significant funding as I recall.
I'm conservative, and I wouldn't have voted for it.
Old people - of course, no surprise. Guess what? When we're old, we probably won't be thinking in sync with what our grandkids think, either.
Religious people - the opposition from non-elderly to gay marriage seems to be coming from religious groups.
58% of the blacks in California voted to oppose SSM. That is statistical history.
Religion is usually the motivator to opposing SSM and gay lifestyles. That's even what this thread is all about. Mike Pence was explicit that this has to do with religion.
everyone i know around here is outraged, so don't be so quick to paint the whole state with a broad brush. stickers are going up everywhere making it clear that everyone is welcome. Pence is the worst governor Indiana has had in my lifetime. unfortunately a majority voted for these dip****s or didn't vote; i think turnout was like twenty five percent. hopefully, more people will get off of their asses in 2016 and vote these ****ers out for ruining Indiana's reputation.
boycotts will do more harm than good, too. major employers and small businesses lobbied against this stupid bill, but they were ignored. they don't deserve to be boycotted, and people who don't even support this don't deserve to lose their jobs because of it.
what can you do that will help? write, email and call those ****ers at the statehouse until the ****ing phone lines melt. and don't stop when the media stops covering it. keep it up. eventually, they'll have to cave.
Very few "parade around" now. I can go months without seeing a single gay person parading around. What they do is live life openly, same as you do. Hold hands with their loved one, take them to dinner, to work functions, etc.
And why shouldn't they demand at least tolerance? They're human beings who deserve the benefit of the doubt same as you and me.
That of course is the goal, to force Christians (mostly) out of the marketplace unless they conform to the homosexual agenda. This is what passes for tolerance these days. Conform or be harmed
'We don't offer same sex marriage cakes. It's not a product offering in our product line.' ?
'We don't offer same sex marriage cakes. It's not a product offering in our product line.' ?
They didn't parade around telling the whole world and demanding acceptance. There's your sign.
No, this is not accurate at all.
Have you ever noticed those signs stating: "We reserve the right to refuse service"? Those signs are affirming that the owner retains the right to refuse service for reasons not centered on a protected ground.
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Product lines are differentiated by differences in - well - the product. Above is one of the wedding cakes in the Masterpiece Cakes catalog.
1. What part of this cake identifies this as a "same sex marriage cake" in contrast to a "different sex marriage cake" as opposed to just a "wedding cake"?
2. What part of this cake is different when purchased by same-sex couples in contrast to different-sex couples:
A. Is it the recipe?
B. Is it the materials?
C. Is it the decoration (notice this cake does not employ toppers or text)?
Or is the difference not in fact in the cake, the difference being the customers that purchase such a cake.
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Yes, baking a cake for a homosexual is against your religion. I guess I missed that part in the bible. People like you are using your religion as a shield when you know it comes from your own personal bigotry. There is zero difference between this and hanging a "No Blacks Allowed" sign outside. Keep acting like Christ.
Those signs are meaningless. Putting up such a sign does not give a business the right to break the law.
Public accomodations must serve everybody. There are exceptions but they do not include "because I didn't want to"
Those signs are meaningless. Putting up such a sign does not give a business the right to break the law.
It is not a law. You are confusing Sangha's views with "Law". The two dont always equate. As I have stated, I have seen baggy pants wearing people ordered to leave and change clothes. The refusal of service was lawful. So would a refusal to serve me while wearing a CSA uniform.
Do an experiment: Enter a shopping mall as a legitimate shopper while wearing Waffen SS "wear". Then tell them that they cant lawfully refuse you entry. Let me know how it goes.... .
Why do I get the feeling that you look down with disdain at the entire civil rights movement as well.....I can just imagine the disgust you felt with blacks parading around telling the whole world and demanding acceptance. Wow......bigotry is alive and well.
everyone i know around here is outraged, so don't be so quick to paint the whole state with a broad brush. stickers are going up everywhere making it clear that everyone is welcome. Pence is the worst governor Indiana has had in my lifetime. unfortunately a majority voted for these dip****s or didn't vote; i think turnout was like twenty five percent. hopefully, more people will get off of their asses in 2016 and vote these ****ers out for ruining Indiana's reputation.
boycotts will do more harm than good, too. major employers and small businesses lobbied against this stupid bill, but they were ignored. they don't deserve to be boycotted, and people who don't even support this don't deserve to lose their jobs because of it.
what can you do that will help? write, email and call those ****ers at the statehouse until the ****ing phone lines melt. and don't stop when the media stops covering it. keep it up. eventually, they'll have to cave.
That of course is the goal, to force Christians (mostly) out of the marketplace unless they conform to the homosexual agenda. This is what passes for tolerance these days. Conform or be harmed
Not so. New Jersey law made the Boy Scouts a public accommodation, and yet it was free to revoke scoutmaster Dale's membership because it did not want to accommodate homosexuals. Massachusetts law made the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Boston a public accommodation, and yet the parade's organizers were free to refuse to include an Irish-American homosexual group in the parade. In both cases, the homosexuals were excluded because the private persons in charge of the public accommodation didn't want them.
Oh...I don't doubt that there are a lot of good people in Indiana. I don't mean to label everyone in Indiana as the bigots who passed this legislation. Hell....I was embarassed of my own State when Prop 8 passed. That aside....it reflects poors on the state just like prop 8 did California.
In some types of businesses, dress codes are allowed. In others, it is not.
No, all business can potentially have dress codes. Some may choose to enact dress codes, others not.
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