Except the government wasn't handing out bibles at public schools. Volunteers from churches do. Yet those against such acts say that its not allowed due to it being considered as an endorsement of religion by the government if the schools allow it.
And the lengths you are going to dismiss reality and other peoples views shows that you don't care about other peoples views. Just your own.
Who said anything about slaves? There are more kinds of servitude than just slavery you know.
The state of being a slave or completely subject to someone more powerful.
You don't get to determine what another person considers a religious act
If he knows the buyer is going to use the bat to bash someone's head in, then he is endorsing violence if he sells the bat
The person who considers it a religious act. That should be obvious. Or do you wish to control what other people think and believe?
Religious Activity is defined as any activity that primarily promotes or manifests a particular belief in or about a deity or an ultimate reality. Rosenberger v. Rector & Visitors of the Univ. of Va., 515 U.S. 819, 825 (U.S. 1995)
Greetings, Sangha. :2wave:
I never felt particularly religious while eating a pizza! I must have missed a step somewhere along the way... I'll work on that! :mrgreen:
Selling a cake to someone does not equal giving up your own beliefs or change how you think. If you sell a shirt a Muslim wears to their Mosque does that make you a Muslim? Or any less of a Christian? Does it mean you can no longer believe anything you want? No, no, and no. It means you sold him a shirt.
A business does not have individual rights. You don't have to let blacks, gays, women, or anyone else into your home. Your private residence. You don't have to talk to gay people. When you open a business though and open it up to the public there's a different set of rules.
That is not what she said at all. In fact, the owner said that if a gay person came into their restaurant and asked them to "provide" pizza for their wedding, they would have to refuse. They didn't mention what everyone is assuming catering to be here. There is no way to fit a group that could eat 20 pizzas in that small little place. So those pizzas would be to go. She, the owner, was talking about the situation I described.
And no, the reporter would not be libel for slander, because what I described is a form of catering. The food providers do not have to be present at the event or even deliver the food to the actual event to be considered "catering" the event.
Co-owner Crystal O'Connor told a local news station that if a gay couple wanted to order pizzas for their wedding, "we would have to say no."
Businesses do have rights, but the govt has the power to limit the rights of both businesses or individuals when it has an legitimate governmental interest in doing so (subject to limitations)
Uber Libertarian Penn Jillette NAILS it.
Government's legitimate force is limited to the protection and proliferation of the individual's rights and liberties.
Kinda depends on whether or not they find another baker who was willing to bake their cake to their exact specifications and charge the same price or less for it OR if their baker was the Cake Boss and was willing to bake them an awesome cake at X4 the price. :mrgreen:
Not in this nation
So, businesses can no longer apply the right to refuse service? Great...I just love totalitarian thought don't you?The service a business sells is not an endorsement. The plumber who fixes the pipes in a strip joint is not endorsing the strip joint. And the service the plumber is "endorsing" is his own work, not what his customer does.
Again, there is no legal, moral, nor even a logical, basis upon which to claim that a business endorses what a customer does with its' good and services.
And people go into the catering business to make money and not to endorse events.
No, you're the one that first mentioned schools. Here's the link to your post
I read it. It said nothing about the caterer doing anything of religious significance. It spoke only about the newlyweds cutting and eating the cake. The caterer has nothing to do with it, and we're not talking about cakes. We're talking about pizzas. Those are pies, not cakes.
Actually, in all nations. It doesn't mean that government cannot act outside those interests, it's just that government force that does not uphold the rights and liberties of its people is illegitimate.
It's a concept authoritarians cannot understand.
The last time a liberal threw a bomb into a crowd of people was March 23 in Austin when a liberal woman tossed a Molotov cocktail at a bunch of pro life women peacefully praying outside of a Planned Parenthood office.
Woman arrested for throwing Molotov cocktail in front of Planned Parenthood | KXAN.com
Did the "plenty of right wingers" who throw these bombs do it recently?
The only authoritarian concept you've raised is the notion that the people are not allowed to form the govt they choose to form.
Libertarianism = the freedom to do what libertarians say you can do
The market would be based on how good their pizza is. None of us know how good it is.
The lemmings are predictably lining up to give them money, not for any market based reason but because they're the RW heroes of the week.
I didn't say anything of the sort.
Just said that legitimate government force serves to protect and proliferate the rights and the liberties of the individual.
Why would it have to be the same price or less?
Yes you did
No, I didn't. I in fact said that government can act illegitimately. Also, you are free to champion such uses of government, never said you cannot. Such uses of government can go into effect by evidence that government does act illegitimately. You're free to endorse all the illegitimate and dangerous uses of government force you want. Never said you couldn't.
So how about you just return to the topic on hand instead of engaging in these intellectually dishonest spats against things I never said.
The market would be based on how good their pizza is. None of us know how good it is.
The lemmings are predictably lining up to give them money, not for any market based reason but because they're the RW heroes of the week.
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