You are absolutely right NP - How dare those blacks demand to sit next to us and eat at our white lunch counters. You think they would be happy sitting in the back with their own kind. You give them a foot and they want a mile. Disgusting.
If you believe I'm the devil, you've got bigger issues than pizza at gay weddings.
mmmm.. militant rhetoric... this just gets better and better.
y'all are real heroes... condoning death threads, rationalizing terrorizing people, justifying and advocating for running innocent people out of business.
yeah...real Americans....:roll:
To tell you the truth, from what I have hear from you, I would much prefer sitting next to a whole lot of Blacks I have known to having to eat lunch at the counter with you.
Last time I checked, slaves weren't allowed to open their own business, nor were they free to quit if they didn't like what the job required.
There is no servitude.
Thats quite simply a lie. You dont see Christian groups going on crusades against homosexuals.You DO see Christian groups responding to the incessant attacks by bitter angry hate filled intolerant small little people.
Gay marriage has not been legal since this country was formed. Most people have believed and still do believe homosexuality is 'wrong' (including the current occupant of the WH). Most people arent running around venting hatred against homosexuals. Most arent launching diatribes and personal attacks. The same cant be said of a large number of people in the gay community.
We see it here on this site.
Nobody condoned death threats or violence. But if you want to know why gays have a problem with "Christians" then observe what "Christian" "Family" groups say about and advocate for regarding gay rights, gay marriage, homosexuality, etc.
I came up with it. it was kinda funny, now all these liberals are running with it.
Nobody condoned death threats or violence. But if you want to know why gays have a problem with "Christians" then observe what "Christian" "Family" groups say about and advocate for regarding gay rights, gay marriage, homosexuality, etc.
Wrong. It's not an endorsement. Never has been.
A business selling a product it stocks to a customer has never been considered an endorsement of what the customer does with the product after it is purchased.
You were the one who brought up irrelevant schools.
Did I stutter?
Your link talks about the newlyweds cutting the cake and feeding it to each other. I must have missed the part where the talk about catering.
And the baker doesn't cut it and feed it to the newlyweds. And it's a cake, not a pizza.
You've gone from pizza, to catering, to caterers, to caterers sometimes supply cakes to "that means the pizza is religiously significant"
Do you really believe this somehow means catering a pizza makes it a religious practice?
ridiculous, $ justifies anything
change your lean to "libertarian" at least so i'll know to not bother in the future
I have trouble believing you actually believe they don't. It's been more than 50 years since the govt has been banning discrimination.
You have not presented any argument that shows the govt can't ban discrimination other than "They can't do that" while I have referred to the numerous laws which have withstood court challenges. Even the wingnut christians who want to discriminate aren't claiming that the govt doesn't have the power to ban discrimination against gays - they're only arguing that they should have a religious exemption from that ban.
If they believed as you do, they wouldn't have a passed a law granting an exemption for the religious; They would have filed a court case.
He is not me, and the govt handing out bibles at a public school to children is an entirely different thing than selling a pizza.
The lengths you are going to find something analogous to support the claim that catering is an endorsement goes to show just how tenous a grip on reality that argument has.
Last time I checked, slaves weren't allowed to open their own business, nor were they free to quit if they didn't like what the job required.
There is no servitude.
I would love to see a same sex couple ask one then publicize it when they didn't.
I wonder if the reaction would be the same, I mean try to put them out of business or burn them down.
You don't get to determine what another person considers a religious actThey are free to practice their religion
Not selling a pizza is not a religious practice
Though an argument could be made that bigotry is
Maybe the real problem is single people. If people don't get married, there is no wedding to cater and thus commerce is harmedC'mon Kal. You're smarter than that
This law isn't limited to pizzarias and I've already explained how such discrimination can affect commerce.
You don't get to determine what another person considers a religious act
Except the government wasn't handing out bibles at public schools. Volunteers from churches do. Yet those against such acts say that its not allowed due to it being considered as an endorsement of religion by the government if the schools allow it.
And the lengths you are going to dismiss reality and other peoples views shows that you don't care about other peoples views. Just your own.
If he knows the buyer is going to use the bat to bash someone's head in, then he is endorsing violence if he sells the batNO, it's not an endorsement. Restaurants and caterers serve all sorts of people. It is not an endorsement of anything they do just as the seller of a bat isn't endorsing violence if someone uses a bat to bash someone's skull in.
A public school is not a commercial enterprise, and we're talking about adults getting married, not schoolchildren in school.
No, the cake is of no religious significance.
Who does?
The individualWho does?
That's exactly what they wantThe person who considers it a religious act. That should be obvious. Or do you wish to control what other people think and believe?
You and I both know it would never, ever happen. Christians are the enemy here. Christians must realize that these rights have been established whether they approve or not, and they must honor them. There has been no foul here, but the mere mention of the fact that some hold beliefs which transcend secular society's norms and laws troubles the militant gay community greatly. It's not possible to force endorsement.
More Orwell....
Discrimination and bigotry have accepting meanings in common usage and how you're using those words ain't them.
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