An Indiana pizzeria remained closed on Wednesday, embroiled in a national debate after its owners said that they would not cater gay marriages due to their religious beliefs.
Read the article here: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed
I don't claim to be an expert on this, but how many gay weddings are followed up by pizza parties? :roll:
My guess is that these people are declining to serve people who would never be their customers.
Yeah, liberals can't think for themselves. They're a dumb bunch. It's really difficult to figure out that a business, any business might look for a way to get little free publicity. :roll:
What emotional response do you hold for people that have threatened them?
I bet Jefferson would have supported a baker's right to decline to make a cake for a smae sex weddingApparently freedom of religion now includes the right to decline to serve pizzas to people you don't like. Bet Jefferson never thought of that one.
Apparently freedom of religion now includes the right to decline to serve pizzas to people you don't like. Bet Jefferson never thought of that one.
It's not about the people. They said they would never and have never refused to serve anyone who is gay or of a different religion. It's when they were asked to participate in what they believe is a sinful act. They cannot participate in good conscience. They aren't hurting anyone, they aren't discriminating against people --- it's the act of participating in an event that goes against their beliefs that bothers them.
I bet Jefferson would have supported a baker's right to decline to make a cake for a smae sex wedding
I must be an idiot (I know I am from time to time but no need to agree with me, I know some people see me in that manner :2razzbut why on earth would someone not want to sell a pizza to a gay person just because they got married?
Just because the religious right have claimed sole custody to the process of marriage is wrong. Just split it up to a civil union that is the "real marriage" and a seperate religious one that is open only to members of that religion and for which that religion has the sole right to decide who they marry and who not.
That would make it be possible for gays to marry and for religious organizations to decide who they marry and who not. Problem solved IMHO.
What gives someone a religious right to not sell food to someone? They are not approving of the life style of others just because they sell pizza's to a gay wedding ceremony IMHO. Sorry, but I do not see the problem in selling a pizza to someone who is gay, black, white, muslim, jewish, christian or whatever. Because if you have a pizzeria what is the problem with selling them to anyone who needs one and wants to pay? What does a person have to do in order to order a pizza? Do they ask
I would sell pizza to everyone who needed one, even if that person was a mormon or for crying out loud a scientologist. Pizza sales do not make you approve of someone's life style, religion or points of view. You are doing your job (but I still reserve the right never to watch/pay for a movie starring Tom Cruise but if he came to order a pizza I would even sell him one) when you are a pizza owning kind of a person you do what is necessary for the prosperity of you, your staff and your loved ones.
Sorry, but I am intolerant of intolerance when it comes to discrimination. I would hever discriminate someone religious and that is how it should be, why would religious people be allowed to then to that to other? Respect and love other like you love yourself is what religious should be about.
That bed is now lined with more than $420,000 as conservatives are putting their money where their mouths areScrew them. They made their bed, now they can lie in it.
I must be an idiot (I know I am from time to time but no need to agree with me, I know some people see me in that manner :2razzbut why on earth would someone not want to sell a pizza to a gay person just because they got married?
Just because the religious right have claimed sole custody to the process of marriage is wrong. Just split it up to a civil union that is the "real marriage" and a seperate religious one that is open only to members of that religion and for which that religion has the sole right to decide who they marry and who not.
That would make it be possible for gays to marry and for religious organizations to decide who they marry and who not. Problem solved IMHO.
What gives someone a religious right to not sell food to someone? They are not approving of the life style of others just because they sell pizza's to a gay wedding ceremony IMHO. Sorry, but I do not see the problem in selling a pizza to someone who is gay, black, white, muslim, jewish, christian or whatever. Because if you have a pizzeria what is the problem with selling them to anyone who needs one and wants to pay? What does a person have to do in order to order a pizza? Do they ask
I would sell pizza to everyone who needed one, even if that person was a mormon or for crying out loud a scientologist. Pizza sales do not make you approve of someone's life style, religion or points of view. You are doing your job (but I still reserve the right never to watch/pay for a movie starring Tom Cruise but if he came to order a pizza I would even sell him one) when you are a pizza owning kind of a person you do what is necessary for the prosperity of you, your staff and your loved ones.
Sorry, but I am intolerant of intolerance when it comes to discrimination. I would hever discriminate someone religious and that is how it should be, why would religious people be allowed to then to that to other? Respect and love other like you love yourself is what religious should be about.
Screw them. They made their bed, now they can lie in it.
That's what we call a non sequiturYeah, but then again Jefferson had a black slave girl he took to bed every night.
Apparently freedom of religion now includes the right to decline to serve pizzas to people you don't like. Bet Jefferson never thought of that one.
I highly doubt he would have a problem with it.... he was a massive proponent for property rights.
That's what we call a non sequitur
Well, the bed is made with lots of money now... so....
Good for them. Good to know that the right wing is always ready to support bigotry, even if it involves pizzas.
Again, it's not about selling pizzas.... it's about catering (and therefore, participating) in the wedding. Why should anyone be forced to participate in an event?
It's not about the people. They said they would never and have never refused to serve anyone who is gay or of a different religion. It's when they were asked to participate in what they believe is a sinful act. They cannot participate in good conscience. They aren't hurting anyone, they aren't discriminating against people --- it's the act of participating in an event that goes against their beliefs that bothers them.
Except that no one is implying or saying that gays are subhuman. :shrug: Sooooo.....yeaaah.....Still not sure what the point was in saying that. :shrug:
You misspelled freedom of speech and religion.
Why do you think people should be forced to participate in an event they aren't comfortable with?
personally, I disagree with their take on the matter .... but i don't disagree with your point.
That's kind of ironic coming from the side of the aisle that pushes to close down businesses that don't comply with their ideologyThe pizza shop owners are
Every anti gay marriage argument is paraphrased "i'm better than you"
Well, the bed is made with lots of money now... so....
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