drz-400
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Cost insulation.
It becomes a standard for people who don't have to pay for hardly anything up front, to get the best of what they can and as much of it as they want.
Medical care facilities and providers, are more than happy to oblige them.
Harry, this topic is making me profoundly sick. How about everybody in the forum chip in...send me a few bucks so that I can go to the doc and tell him that talking about health care make me sick?
Paying cash talks. It reduces the price of care by significant amounts, or so I'm told. Now that would be the perfect world, huh? Maybe I can offer my doc some of my chickens...or go hunt me up a critter or two. Mmmmm, mmmmm. Doc and Ms. Doc could feast out on that. Hey, it use to work.
So I guess my answer to the problem of rising health care cost....just pay cash. Sure you'll have to sell the car and house, but hey, health care will be cheap. Yeah, you might have to sell a couple of the kiddos too, but what the hell?
US healthcare cost ~25% more than any other country's healthcare per capita but is currently 34th from the top in healthcare outcomes and is well below most first-world countries in both years of healthy life and years of life.
The reason several second world countries have better healthcare outcomes, more years of total life and years of healthy life is the lack of preventive care and early intervention thanks to the lack of universal healthcare. The reason the US healthcare costs so much while delivering so little is the unregulated health insurance and pharmaceutical industries are grotesquely overcharging the US populous.
That's not at all what I said but thanks for missing the entire point.
US healthcare cost ~25% more than any other country's healthcare per capita but is currently 34th from the top in healthcare outcomes and is well below most first-world countries in both years of healthy life and years of life.
The reason several second world countries have better healthcare outcomes, more years of total life and years of healthy life is the lack of preventive care and early intervention thanks to the lack of universal healthcare. The reason the US healthcare costs so much while delivering so little is the unregulated health insurance and pharmaceutical industries are grotesquely overcharging the US populous.
Source was World Health Organization - because their site uses an app which produces a frame within a page, it is impossible to provide a link directly. Normally I do this when I post such info.Source? .....
One doesn't need Universal Health Care for Preventative Care (which is a recent development in medicine to start with) some insurance companies are doing this since it affects their bottom line.
We have lower "health care outcomes" in the US due in part to the invasion from third world peoples from Central America.
Insurance companies and Pharmaceutical companies are some of the most regulated businesses in the US. On a State level for the Insurance companies. And Federal level for the Pharmaceutical companies.
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:The name band product cast $105 US per injection from Walgreen Pharmacy and similar from several other US pharmacies. The cost of the generic was $95 per injection. I decided to check the cost outside the US - the cost of that generic drug in Canada was ~$29 US, in England ~$28 and ~$26 in France.
This assumes that most new drugs are developed by US manufacturers - something that was once true, but increasingly is no longer the case. US consumers pay way more for drugs developed elsewhere because in order to sell them in the US, they must be distributed by a Big Pharm company instead of the manufacturer. US lawmakers get huge contributions from Big Pharm to keep this requirement in place.The problem with that is that they piggy-back on American R&D required to put these drugs to market. They are able to sell with minimal profit and no need to recoup billions in value-added cost needed to get from idea to store shelf.
This is why I wanted America to just stop researching drugs. Leave it to other countries. Then we can take what they have and sell it dirt-cheap because of a lack of need in recouping those costs.
Hill-Rom Holdings Inc., a medical-equipment company in Indiana, agreed Tuesday to pay nearly $42 million to settle a government lawsuit that alleged Medicare fraud.
The government had accused the company of knowingly submitting false claims to Medicare from 1999 to 2007 for bed support surfaces meant to treat pressure ulcers and bedsores. According to the charges, Hill-Rom asked "numerous and repeated" times for payment from Medicare for patients who no longer qualified for it, including patients who had died or were no longer using the equipment.
According to the charges, Hill-Rom would automatically bill Medicare for "long periods of time," "without making any reasonable effort to determine if the patients for whom it submitted the claims continued to meet Medicare conditions for payment."
Gosh Harry... Did my satirical post rub you the wrong way? It wasn't intended to. My post was obviously on a different track, and which had nothing to do with your point. You hit nail on the head.
Health care happens to be one of the most complex social problems our nation faces - if not "the most" complex problem. Yet, so many people constantly attack the "symptoms" associated with the our problems...and attack a population of people who use and exacerbate the problem rather than examining potential root causes that reach far beyond health care consumers and even providers.
We have a broken health care system that became such because of the corruption and control of a broken government.
As the old saying goes - "the fox is minding the hen house."
I apologize for using your post as a spring board to make a nonsensical comment.
Rising Prices in the Health Care Sector
Aging Population
Cost Insulation from Third Party Payers (Employers, Insurance, Government)
The correct answers to the poll question, at the most basic level, are:
However, "rising prices" is pretty vague and doesn't actually address the root cause. So a better question is what is causing those rising prices in the health care sector. For this question, the best answer is:
The US has the worst health care system of any developed country in the world. It's the worst of all possible worlds: No incentive for anyone to cut their costs, and no regulation to limit costs. We should be dissuading employers from providing health insurance, encouraging people to move to high-deductible plans, and subsidizing health insurance for those who can't afford it.
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