In what ways will the US be better when Romney takes office?

[Conservative]

Romney can't be trusted to do anything he says he will do, because he flip flops. He says he will work across the aisle, but I doubt he will. Claiming Obama hasn't worked across the aisle is rediculous. Obama lost part of his base because he compromised on Obamacare. He used mostly republican ideas instead of creating a universal health care system which is one thing I disagreed with him on. WHen Republicans demanded specific things, Obama said ok, then Republicans would say no. I am a news junky. I watchd it all happen. No president can force the other party to cooperate. I doubt seriously that ROmney would be able to get the Democrats to work with him.
Our progresive tax system is redistribution of wealth. Are you saying Romney would end our tax system? You will have to explain to me what you mean by Romney will not delegate responsibility for his agenda to the Congress. How do you know what kind of budget Romney will propose? He hasn't given any specifics. Romney will probabaly nominate his donors to positions of authority. He also has a lot of former Bush advisors on his team. That tells me he would bring back a lot of the Bush policies that got us in this mess to begin with. Romney has said more recently that he would cut all incomes taxes by 20%. How can he do that and close the deficit?

Your opinion is noted, you were wrong in 2008 and you will be wrong again in 2012. What you seem to have a problem with is you need a govt. central economy and cannot comprehend that a govt. central economy creates debt not economic growth. Still waiting for you to explain to me how keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the federal govt? What is quite telling is how you ignore that the govt. budget isn't a lot different from your own in that IF you have less revenue coming in you spend less, not more.

The problem you have is that with tax cuts govt. revenue grew and 2007 was the bigest year in U.S. history for tax revenue.

 

[cpwill]

Obama proposes higher taxes and the taking away of our liberties.. you tell me how that creates jobs?

well.... according to Obama a couple of years ago... it destroys jobs.....

 

[Travis007]

well.... according to Obama a couple of years ago... it destroys jobs.....

are you telling me Obama lied? : )

Obama himself is a lie..

 

[Mithros]

Your opinion noted, but what I find quite telling is how many people voted for Obama because of his rhetoric and were wrong but will not vote for his results which are a disaster and wrong again.

I don't like Obama results and that is all that matters. Obama had his chance and I didn't vote for Obama because of his resume and now will not vote for him because the results vindicate that resume.

You have so much invested in hatred for Bush that you cannot see that the Obama record is worse than Bush's but you would give him four more years to do what? What has Obama proposed differently from the last four years? Bush has a better economic record than Obama had when he ran for re-election in 2004 so if Bush was bad why would you support someone with a worse record?

Bush's record is clearly worse than Obama’s. The only job growth in the Bush years were public sector jobs. But that said, I thought that he did a decent job his last three years in office. He started to clean up some of his atrocious mistakes from the first three.

And I don't have any hatred for Bush. I voted for him in 2000 because I didn't trust Gore. At the time I remember thinking, how much damage can Bush really do in four years? Fast forward four years; I had my answer and was no longer a Republican.

 

[Conservative]

Bush's record is clearly worse than Obama’s. The only job growth in the Bush years were public sector jobs. But that said, I thought that he did a decent job his last three years in office. He started to clean up some of his atrocious mistakes from the first three.

And I don't have any hatred for Bush. I voted for him in 2000 because I didn't trust Gore. At the time I remember thinking, how much damage can Bush really do in four years? Fast forward four years; I had my answer and was no longer a Republican.

Look, Bush isn't on the ballot but when Bush ran for re-election he didn't have 22.7 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, he didn't have 5.4 trillion added to the debt, and he didn't have 47 million on food stamps and 46 million below the poverty level. GM was a private company and wasn't owned by the taxpayers, we were winning the war in Iraq and then because people bought the leftwing spin Democrats took control of the Congress in January 2007 and the rest is history, history that you ignore.

You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric and hopefully you will have as much disdain for him and his results as you apparently have for Bush. I do suggest better research of non partisan sites like bls.gov, bea.gov, U.S. Census, and U.S. Treasury. You might be surprised at the outcome.

 

[laska]

Ways it may be better:
prices on goods and services cheaper(less inflation)
maybe slightly lower deficits(increase military spending and tax cuts may keep us in the trillion a yr deficits unti bankruptcy) I don't see how they outspend Obama though.
slightly lower unemployment rate
slightly lower taxes
slightly higher economic growth
better security for troops and embassies

Ways it may be worse:
more anti Americanism abroad
no health insurance for those with prior conditions
likely more wars, may never get out of Afghanistan

 

[Conservative]

Ways it may be better:
prices on goods and services cheaper(less inflation)
maybe slightly lower deficits(increase military spending and tax cuts may keep us in the trillion a yr deficits unti bankruptcy) I don't see how they outspend Obama though.
slightly lower unemployment rate
slightly lower taxes
slightly higher economic growth
better security for troops and embassies

Ways it may be worse:
more anti Americanism abroad
no health insurance for those with prior conditions
likely more wars, may never get out of Afghanistan

More anti Americanism than the storming of our embassies, the murder of our Ambassador, and rise of the Muslim Brotherhood?

 

[winston53660]

You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric a

Specifically what rhetoric?

 

[Bobcat]

He meant he hopes there will be less partisan "witch hunts" in Congress after they realize they can't unseat him on lies and ludicrous conspiracy theories.

sure, thats exactly what he meant, sure it was :lamo

 

[laska]

More anti Americanism than the storming of our embassies, the murder of our Ambassador, and rise of the Muslim Brotherhood?

I had more in mind how much of the world viewed George Bush and the American Right, less coalition building, more hatred of "ugly Americans" on vacation by rest of world, etc. Barrack Obama being the face of nation, and the Left's more sophisticated culturally aware sensitivities overall will be missed. Although I think Romney and Ryan may surprise in this area, could be much worse if the base had chosen someone like Gingrich. That would have been a nightmare.

 

[Mithros]

Look, Bush isn't on the ballot but when Bush ran for re-election he didn't have 22.7 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, he didn't have 5.4 trillion added to the debt, and he didn't have 47 million on food stamps and 46 million below the poverty level. GM was a private company and wasn't owned by the taxpayers, we were winning the war in Iraq and then because people bought the leftwing spin Democrats took control of the Congress in January 2007 and the rest is history, history that you ignore.

You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric and hopefully you will have as much disdain for him and his results as you apparently have for Bush. I do suggest better research of non partisan sites like bls.gov, bea.gov, U.S. Census, and U.S. Treasury. You might be surprised at the outcome.

You seem to confuse me with someone else. But I suppose that if imagining someone else's position is what it takes to make yourself feel like you've "won" an argument....

Here are the private and public sector job numbers. Notice that from 2000-2003 the only reason we didn't slip into recession is because the public sector job growth cancelled out the losses in the private sector. And notice how private sector job growth under Obama is virtually identical to that under the peak of the Bush years.

 

[Conservative]

I had more in mind how much of the world viewed George Bush and the American Right, less coalition building, more hatred of "ugly Americans" on vacation by rest of world, etc. Barrack Obama being the face of nation, and the Left's more sophisticated culturally aware sensitivities overall will be missed. Although I think Romney and Ryan may surprise in this area, could be much worse if the base had chosen someone like Gingrich. That would have been a nightmare.

What you and others don't seem to understand is "Peace through Strength" not appeasement. Success if earning respect not being liked and that is what many on the left don't understand. Do you really believe our relationships around the world are stronger under Obama?

 

[Conservative]

You seem to confuse me with someone else. But I suppose that if imagining someone else's position is what it takes to make yourself feel like you've "won" an argument....

Here are the private and public sector job numbers. Notice that from 2000-2003 the only reason we didn't slip into recession is because the public sector job growth cancelled out the losses in the private sector. And notice how private sector job growth under Obama is virtually identical to that under the peak of the Bush years.

What does your chart show you about the results from 2003-2007 and who controlled the Congress during that period of time and what economic policy was in place? Let me help you, Democrats controlled the Senate from 2001-2002, Republicans took control of Congress in January 2003 and lost it the end of 2006. The Bush tax cuts were fully implemented in July 2003 and look at the job creation?

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Last time around Obama was the big ray of hope, now this time around Romney is the big ray of hope.

Were you guys not paying attention? Obama did not live up to the hype neither will Romney and 4 years down the road you guys get to switch talking points again.

When will you guys learn?

 

[Mithros]

What does your chart show you about the results from 2003-2007 and who controlled the Congress during that period of time and what economic policy was in place? Let me help you, Democrats controlled the Senate from 2001-2002, Republicans took control of Congress in January 2003 and lost it the end of 2006. The Bush tax cuts were fully implemented in July 2003 and look at the job creation?

Well that's a start! Numbers that we can agree on.

So you're saying that if we don't like the way the economy is going now we should give congress to the other party. I'll agree with that.

 

[iguanaman]

Economic model shows Romney with 330 Electoral votes. Source accurately predicted last 8 Presidential elections. Economic results today don't warrant four more years of Obama

Updated election forecasting model still points to Romney win, University of Colorado study says | University of Colorado Boulder

Romney's Intrade odds are 37.5% today. Why don't you place a bet?

 

[Conservative]

Well that's a start! Numbers that we can agree on.

So you're saying that if we don't like the way the economy is going now we should give congress to the other party. I'll agree with that.

We saw what Obama did with total control of the Congress, so in 2012 I will be voting to give Romney the same opportunity, total control of the Legislative and Executive branch. Obama doesn't deserve four more years.

 

[Conservative]

Romney's Intrade odds are 37.5% today. Why don't you place a bet?

Who says I haven't? I am trying to figure out why you have such passion for the Obama failures? What is it about Obama that generates this kind of loyalty?

 

[iguanaman]

What you and others don't seem to understand is "Peace through Strength" not appeasement. Success if earning respect not being liked and that is what many on the left don't understand. Do you really believe our relationships around the world are stronger under Obama?

Bush's policy was more like WAR thru stupidity and with hamfisted a-holes like Bolton on Romney's short list we can expect nothing but more of the same from him. Many observers think his foreign policy will be like "Bush on steroids".

 

[Conservative]

Bush's policy was more like WAR thru stupidity and with hamfisted a-holes like Bolton on Romney's short list we can expect nothing but more of the same from him. Many observers think his foreign policy will be like "Bush on steroids".

Your opinion noted but you were wrong about Obama in 2008 and it appears you are going to double down in November. The results just don't warrant four more years of Obama

 

[iguanaman]

Your opinion noted but you were wrong about Obama in 2008 and it appears you are going to double down in November. The results just don't warrant four more years of Obama

What I am voting against is the doubling down on the failed policies of GW Bush and the virtual certainty of the Romney Recession. Why is it that all Republican Presidents have recessions in their 1st term? This is not the time for another one that's for sure.
Compared to the rest of the world we are doing quite well. Sales are up more than anticipated for Sept. and consumer confidence is also higher than expected. And then there is this

 

[Conservative]

Compared to the rest of the world we are doing quite well sales are up more than anticipated for Sept. and consumer confidence is also higher than expected. And then there is this

That is because we have a private sector economy and not a govt. central economy like the rest of the world. Give Obama four more years and the lines will be more like the European failures. Sounds like your kind of world.

 

[laska]

What you and others don't seem to understand is "Peace through Strength" not appeasement. Success if earning respect not being liked and that is what many on the left don't understand. Do you really believe our relationships around the world are stronger under Obama?

I'm not a foreign policy expert by a long shot but my hunch is there is some truth in Biden stating that after Bush administration that relationships had to be repaired. When you have John Bolt as UN ambassador and people like Cheney and Rumsfield running things, those are very blunt, arrogant types that most of the world hates most about America. I personally see strengths and weaknesses in both the Left and Right, and wish they would cooperate and have a snergy effect where the best of the Left and Right come out and the weaknesses of both are held in check.

 

[Conservative]

I'm not a foreign policy expert by a long shot but my hunch is there is some truth in Biden stating that after Bush administration that relationships had to be repaired. When you have John Bolt as UN ambassador and people like Cheney and Rumsfield running things, those are very blunt, arrogant types that most of the world hates most about America. I personally see strengths and weaknesses in both the Left and Right, and wish they would cooperate and have a snergy effect where the best of the Left and Right come out and the weaknesses of both are held in check.

You have no idea who our Ambassador was to the UN under Bush as it was John Bolton but you have no problem with Susan Wright? You certainly are right you aren't a foreign policy expert and continue to buy the Obama Administration rhetoric. How can our foreign policy be better with attacks on our Embassies and the murder of an Ambassador and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood

 

[laska]

You have no idea who our Ambassador was to the UN under Bush as it was John Bolton but you have no problem with Susan Wright? You certainly are right you aren't a foreign policy expert and continue to buy the Obama Administration rhetoric. How can our foreign policy be better with attacks on our Embassies and the murder of an Ambassador and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood

I'm not a fan of either side. I am not endorsing Obama's foreign policy, just that both sides have strengths and weaknesses.