Explain the need to be armed....its 2012, not 1612 or 1812.
And I know what it is !
That does NOT make it right..
IMO, gun ownership SHOULD BE a privilege, NOT a right. And, it is slowly becoming more of a privledge and less of a right, which addles the hell out of gun loving conservatives.
Loading on more restrictions is not the answer. Punishing the majority for the psychotic stupidity of the very few is simply unfair. As the aftermath of this madness unravels, I'm certain we're going to see all kinds of indicators that lead to these senseless killings, and most of it will probably come down to major neglect on the parent's part.As you all have certainly heard there was ANOTHER mass shooting, this time at a elementary school, killing at least 27. This is just one of numerous examples of gun related violence in the news recently. As with any other shooting, this raises the question of how to prevent the violence. Please share your ideas on how to prevent another major incident like this.
Ps- I would like to express my sadness and deep sorrow about this incident and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
So, what was CNN's point ?
1. We need a ton of work here, IMO, its nearly impossible with the "mental" health people we have today
2. We do NOT need more guns !
The mass murderer was not a so-called criminal, in many, if not most cases they are not..
We do not need any return to the wild west (and east) days, when everyone wore a gun.
3. High quality security, not "more".
A school is still an institute of learning, NOT a prison...
Explain the need to be armed....its 2012, not 1612 or 1812.
And I know what it is !
That does NOT make it right..
IMO, gun ownership SHOULD BE a privilege, NOT a right. And, it is slowly becoming more of a privledge and less of a right, which addles the hell out of gun loving conservatives.
An assault weapon was not used in this attack. It was left in the car.
He used two pistols.
I have some burning questions about how this happened...
How did this young man get SO wrong in the head that he was capable of mass-murdering little children, and no one noticed and intervened or got him psychiatric help?
How did this man get into the school armed, when most schools today have security doors and lockdown proceedures?
WHERE was the armed school resource officer (police), and why did he not act to stop this before it got so far?
I don't yet know the answers to these questions, but I think they are the ones we should be asking.
This is a horrible and tragic crime that really hit me where I live as a parent.
What kind of pistols?
As you all have certainly heard there was ANOTHER mass shooting, this time at a elementary school, killing at least 27. This is just one of numerous examples of gun related violence in the news recently. As with any other shooting, this raises the question of how to prevent the violence. Please share your ideas on how to prevent another major incident like this.
Ps- I would like to express my sadness and deep sorrow about this incident and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
Only three things can be done to prevent tragedies like these:
1. We need adequate means of identifying and treating people with mental illness.
2. We need more good people with guns. Too many of these shootings occur in Gun Free (Target Rich) zones, that the criminal thrives on. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, either concealed carrying or law enforcement. We need armed teachers, students on college campuses, and armed guards to protect our children.
3. More security. Guarded limited access during school hours, with surveillance, alerts and training/preparations.
Restricting the law abiding will accomplish nothing but shifting the balance of power further in favor of the criminal, leaving fewer good people with guns compared to those who don't obey such disarming laws or any other.
It was interesting this morning when I turned on CNN. They literally spent 10 minutes talking about the assault rifle that was found in the trunk of the car. It wasn't even used. Might as well talk about the nearest M1 Abrams tank at the National Guard armory too, since it was utilized just as much.
Look at this mess....millions of people blaming guns for the shooting or blaming lax gun laws or blaming hate speech or whatever. The fact of the matter is that the person that should get the blame is the shooter and anybody that helped him. It's HIS fault that these kids got shot and not the fault of the 2nd amendment or the NRA or anyone else. It was HIM....just him.
And societal conditions play NO part?
Paul
And societal conditions play NO part?
Paul
I would hope someone comes up with a plan to train and arm the school staff. At least a designated response team within schools. Police can't be everywhere, and static security systems fail. Whatever gun controls put in place in America won't stop a psycho like we saw today from inflicted mass casualties on innocent and vulnerable victims.
Before we start forcing elementary school teachers to learn to shoot and keep a gun in their desk, why don't we see where the paper trail leads on how the person got the guns. Did his mother fill out the permits herself? Who sold her the guns, was this really done by the book? Why does a women who hosts dice parties and put up Christmas decorations go out buy an assault rifle?
And why don't we wait and see what type of therapy he may have had and if some doctor had treated or officially diagnosed him.
With regard to metal disease and involuntary commitment, perhaps we need to consider reviewing the restrictions and checks on gun ownership for people who have been diagnosed or treated for manic-depression and schizophrenia. They don't always get hospital treatment.
When a family member of mine was diagnosed with Alzheimers, I was surprise that the doctor was not legally obligated to notify the department of motor vehicles. This was only done by request.
When a doctor makes an official diagnosis of manic-depression or schizophrenia, why are they not required to notify local police or the state department responsible for gun permits. And if you have a mentally ill adult living in your home, then we should assume they have access to weapons you may have a legal permit for. The guns should be confiscated by police until a judge determines the likelihood of a violent episode.
This notion that we can never predict when a person is going to snap is totally false. Metal diseases don't come on suddenly like a cold.
In the wake of the Colorado shooting, there were tons of red flags that were either missed or ignored -- a therapist had contacted police. The police and the local gun club dropped the ball and we should questioned about their inaction.
a 9mm Glock and some variation of a SIG Sauer; he may have had another weapon in the building but there seems to be conflicting reports on that and whether it was used.
Nope. Please feel free to give us the technical definitions of semi-automatic and assault weapons. We'll wait.As of 6:00 PM my time, he used a semi automatic weapon which is an assault weapon.
As of 6:00 PM my time, he used a semi automatic weapon which is an assault weapon.
this raises the question of how to prevent the violence.
Bring back the 1994 ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004.
In a way, one can....You cannot love the crazy out of people's heads.
In a way, one can....
Prevention
Love the baby, love the child
Without these, yes, the child can grow to be way off center, even a murderer....and then it is too late...
My idea is that only those "on center" can own guns...All others are too great a risk..
I am too great a risk, and I know it....
What kind of pistols?
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