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In hindsight, should Elon Musk have backed Donald Trump?

In hindsight, should Elon Musk have backed Donald Trump?

  • No, because you don't get rich by spending money on frivolities

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Legal disclaimer: Poll choices are presented as options loosely based on media reports which may well be works of fiction, and are not presented here as allegations of fact.
 
Legal disclaimer: Poll choices are presented as options loosely based on media reports which may well be works of fiction, and are not presented here as allegations of fact.

The sad fact is, no one should have supported him. He's a criminal.
 
not a single person can vote on this - only Elon can decide if it was a good backing or not. I mean ... ????? how are we to judge for Elon ?

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I don't blame Elon for backing Trump. Probably wasn't a great decision but he'll be fine. I blame the system that lets a billionaire bail out a candidate who is financially struggling and then gives the donor the keys to the Federal government.
 
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"No - other," entirely because it was terribly naive for Elon to assume he would be the one person who stays in Trump's good graces throughout. Trump and Elon both are way too egotistical, and way too transactional, to assume they would always align on everything.
 
No - other. You can’t count on buying favors (in advance) from a politician who has no re-election hopes (aspirations?). Once they’ve won their final term in office they don’t much care about doing favors for or keeping ‘promises’ made to the donor class (who had already helped them win).

Of course, there are some exceptions. For example the donor may have offered ‘after leaving office’ perks like a job for the politician and/or their friends and relatives.
 
After what newsom and CA did to Tesla there's no way Elon would back the Democrats.
 
After what newsom and CA did to Tesla there's no way Elon would back the Democrats.

What did Newsom and the Democrats do to Tesla?
 
Just NO.

Nobody other than perhaps Trump himself should vote for Donald Trump to be anything, even chief dog catcher. And he'd be wrong to do it too. Trump has no smidgen of societal redeeming value, to anyone or anything outside of his skin. Anything he accidentally gets "right" is based on the broken clock and blind squirrel rules.
 
Elon Musk's brain is completely melted by the toxic cocktail of ketamine and Twitter. He should lay off drugs, politics, and social media and go back to making cars, batteries, and rockets.
 
How about "Yes, and I want to see him fail spectacularly."
 
Yes - Other!
They did GREAT THINGS FOR AMERICA ! That is what Musk ( and Trump wanted) so they are good .

This is a case of: "Not letting the perfect be the enemy of the Good"
Not that Trump or Musk are "Perfect" but they both are FAR BETTER than the Criminals in the DEM-REP Monopoly !
i.e. what America has been forced to accept for the last 30-50 years!
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It was inevitable he would back convicted felon Donald Trump because he is rich.

It was equally inevitable they would fall out because of their enormous egos.
 
Musk got all of his government investigations squashed and was able to get shit tons of our data. He still has people installed in several areas of government.

You decide.
 
No it's worsened his public image and hurt his companies. If Elon Musk sobered up, he'd admit his mistake.
 
Simple answer. No. It makes no sense to back someone who was literally speaking out against your product during the campaign. Trump spread lies and conspiracy theories about Electric Cars and Solar Panels during the campaign. Electric Boats that would electrocute the passengers if it sunk? Cancer from Windmills?

If Elon believed that his products and technology were the Future, the last person he should support is a nut like Trump for President. But Elon liked the idea that he could manipulate Trump, and the idea that Trump would owe him.

With Trump, the question isn't what have you done for me in the past. It's what have you done for me lately? The only way to keep Trump on your side is to surrender yourself to his will perpetually. If it destroys you, that is a price you need to be happy, not just willing, to pay.
 
Would say it is the fault of Musk.
It is not like Trump does not have a history of using people for his own gain and then dumping them quickly after he has gotten what he wants.
Musk was played a fool.
 
Musk got all of his government investigations squashed and was able to get shit tons of our data.
Dear Leader can restart those investigations, and more, at any time.

He's already threatened to sic DOGE on Musk, which is utterly hilarious. Aside from the rich irony of Musk getting screwed by his own creation, it just makes it obvious that DOGE was nothing more than a creature of the Orange Goon, not any sort of cost-cutting measure.

He still has people installed in several areas of government.
Not so much. A lot of his loyalists are leaving, or getting sidelined by agency heads who don't want to kowtow to a drug-addled plutocrat.

And again, Trump is clearly seeing Musk not as an ally, but as a chump who he fleeced, and now an enemy. Meanwhile, he's torched Tesla.

It seems very unlikely this will turn out as a net positive for Elmo.
 
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There was another car maker who backed an unpopular politician in the '30's. Henry Ford led a group including Edison to meet with the Chancellor of Germany at the time, Adolf Hitler.

Ford ended up profiting the most by making weapons, tanks, and planes for the "Allies".

From afar, Elon and Adolf seem to be a pair.
 
But but but but but Elon SEZ he's gunna build "The American Party" and we should all support it!

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If edolf wanted a lot of us to avoid his products long term, he chose an effective way to achieve that goal.
 
not a single person can vote on this - only Elon can decide if it was a good backing or not. I mean ... ????? how are we to judge for Elon ?

odd poll


We judge people all the time, why not Musk
 
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Hindsight is always 20/20. However, it seems Musk’s goal was to bring some fiscal responsibility to government which the democrats wouldn’t even attempt to do. Hence, hitching his wagon to Trump. Should Musk have known better, for sure. Trump is in this only for himself as the BBB proves, Trump doesn’t give an owl’s hoot about fiscal responsibility either. Bottom line, this country is drowning in a sea of red ink which to me it seems neither major party gives a cat’s meow as both are more than willing to let her sink and drown.
 
Hindsight is always 20/20. However, it seems Musk’s goal was to bring some fiscal responsibility to government which the democrats wouldn’t even attempt to do.
:LOL:

Sorry, but no.

Bill Clinton had a multi-year effort to optimize government and get rid of waste. Unlike Trump, he actually obeyed the law, worked with Congress, hired experts to find and trim waste, and it worked. He cut federal employment rolls by more than anyone after him.

Musk was not after "fiscal responsibility," as should be obvious by his disastrous, illegal, illogical, inexperienced efforts. He didn't take the time to understand how government worked, let alone what should be cut. He hired morally compromised teenagers (including one who unrepentantly made racist posts on social media; another is nicknamed "Big Balls" and likely worked for a cyberattack-for-hire firm) to dismantle the government. Many of his efforts were blocked by courts, because they were illegal. The administration itself said that its goal was to strike fear into the hearts of federal workers. Musk almost certainly walked away with terabytes of critical and sensitive data about citizens and his competitors. And his efforts failed, because it didn't save any money at all.

And remember, Musk claimed he could easily slash $2 trillion off the budget. He couldn't even cut 1/10 of that -- and most of the cuts he made backfired and will cost the federal government almost as much as he cut. :rolleyes:

Bottom line, this country is drowning in a sea of red ink which to me it seems neither major party gives a cat’s meow as both are more than willing to let her sink and drown.
You've been posting here for how long, and you don't know that 70% of federal spending is now:
Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
Defense
Interest on the debt

Everything else is 30% of the budget. Border enforcement, federal prisons, managing the nuclear stockpile, highway funding, education, diplomacy, scientific research, HUD, farm subsidies, food stamps, unemployment, the VA....

Where, exactly, is all the "red ink?" Go ahead, tell us exactly what ought to get cut.

I also have to point out that contrary to popular (false) belief, Republicans are incredibly profligate and Democrats at least hold the fort. Reagan, Bush 43, and Trump have all ballooned the deficit, primarily by slashing taxes for the wealthy while increasing defense spending; and Trump signed off on $5 trillion in COVID aid without batting an eye. He even wanted to give out MORE aid right at the end of his term.

Clinton actually ran a surplus for a few years -- a surplus that Bush 43 trashed by cutting taxes while waging TWO NEW WARS and setting up Medicare Part D... and blocking the government from negotiating drug prices. :rolleyes: Obama reduced the deficit, mostly by getting the economy back on track. Biden was handed a shit sandwich by Trump, both with COVID and tax cuts; despite that, the wildly misnamed Inflation Reduction Act paid for itself via taxes.

And here we are, with the Republicans just passing a law that will add trillions to the debt, while depriving 11 million Americans of much-needed health insurance.

You really need to get beyond inaccurate stereotypes and right-wing headlines. It is Republicans who are responsible for most of the massive deficits and debts, not Democrats.
 
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