Improvised Machine Guns

[Michael McMahon]

An electric generator with a pedal could turn trigger cranks into effortless full-auto fire to meet the technical definition of a machine gun (1 hand press on pedal = multiple rounds of burst fire). A trigger crank is virtually the same as a machine gun when one rotation is equated with one trigger pull for 3 rounds. Claiming that a trigger crank is still semi-auto when a third of a rotation is equated to one pull of a trigger doesn't reflect the surplus kinetic energy of the moving crank. For example a bike can keep moving passively even when the pedals aren't being swung owing to the initial momentum. If machine guns are banned then so should semi-autos!


Turning your AR-15 into a mini Gatling Gun! (GAT CRANK) |

Homemade drum magazines would be relatively easy to construct. Belt-fed ammunition would also be relatively easy to navigate into the chamber of any semi-auto firearm. Banning drum magazines and belt-ammunition is better than nothing but still isn't the most effective version of ammo control.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...EXTRA-bullets-gun-killed-cop-banned-2004.html

"Theoretically, a belt of ammo could feed a weapon forever. There is no set capacity with most modern weapons that use belts. Belts of ammo can be linked together to provide however long a belt the gunner wants (until of course, the barrel melts or the weapon suffers a malfunction)."
https://www.housemorningwood.com/what-it-means-to-be-belt-fed/

A revolver's cylinder could have electric circuits implanted to make it rotate far faster much like a full auto drum magazine. The hammer could have a string attached to it from an electric generator to automate the hammer pull for fanning.
Fanning: "This action is done by holding down the trigger on a single action revolver, and then rapidly pulling back the hammer. With the trigger under pressure, the hammer will quickly drop on to the next round, and when repeated, can discharge the firearm in rapid succession."
https://centerofthewest.org/2015/06/26/fast-fanning-firearms-leave-it-to-the-pros/

An additional hand grip near the muzzle could make a full auto revolver more accurate:

Full Auto 50cal Desert Eagle


Placing two side-grips on a semi-auto weapon to pull back on a bump stock and having a metal plate rested against the rear of a bump stock would resemble a mounted machine gun.

"Bump-fire devices replace a semi-automatic rifle’s standard shoulder stock and allow the weapon to smoothly slide (or “bump”) back and forth very rapidly between the shooter’s shoulder and trigger finger. By harnessing the weapon’s recoil or kickback, the bump stock causes the trigger to be engaged many times faster than a human could otherwise fire."
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/hardware-ammunition/machine-guns-50-caliber/

Triggerless machine gun with two rear-end grips:

 

[Loulit01]

I like the Desert Eagle. Lara Croft had one and she was a hot little bundle of pixels.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Hmmmm.

I'll bet theres some needle dicked cowardly "men" out there who would absolutely love that.

 

[OrphanSlug]

It never ceases to amaze me how consistent and often gun nuts flood YouTube and similar to showcase their talents at informing the populace how to take dangerous weapons and make them more capable of harming more people in very short order pretending it is all for "sport" or "informative" 2nd Amendment value.

Makes me question their real intentions.

If you need a full auto 50cal Desert Eagle, you have a real problem.

 

[Michael McMahon]

I like the Desert Eagle. Lara Croft had one and she was a hot little bundle of pixels.

Honestly I preferred Alicia Vikander's bow and arrow to Angelie Jolie's dual wielding handguns!

 

[Loulit01]

Honestly I preferred Alicia Vikander's bow and arrow to Angelie Jolie's dual wielding handguns!

View attachment 67435801

 

[RF667799]

An electric generator with a pedal could turn trigger cranks into effortless full-auto fire to meet the technical definition of a machine gun (1 hand press on pedal = multiple rounds of burst fire). A trigger crank is virtually the same as a machine gun when one rotation is equated with one trigger pull for 3 rounds. Claiming that a trigger crank is still semi-auto when a third of a rotation is equated to one pull of a trigger doesn't reflect the surplus kinetic energy of the moving crank. For example a bike can keep moving passively even when the pedals aren't being swung owing to the initial momentum. If machine guns are banned then so should semi-autos!

View attachment 67435789
Turning your AR-15 into a mini Gatling Gun! (GAT CRANK) |

Homemade drum magazines would be relatively easy to construct. Belt-fed ammunition would also be relatively easy to navigate into the chamber of any semi-auto firearm. Banning drum magazines and belt-ammunition is better than nothing but still isn't the most effective version of ammo control.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...EXTRA-bullets-gun-killed-cop-banned-2004.html

"Theoretically, a belt of ammo could feed a weapon forever. There is no set capacity with most modern weapons that use belts. Belts of ammo can be linked together to provide however long a belt the gunner wants (until of course, the barrel melts or the weapon suffers a malfunction)."
https://www.housemorningwood.com/what-it-means-to-be-belt-fed/

A revolver's cylinder could have electric circuits implanted to make it rotate far faster much like a full auto drum magazine. The hammer could have a string attached to it from an electric generator to automate the hammer pull for fanning.
Fanning: "This action is done by holding down the trigger on a single action revolver, and then rapidly pulling back the hammer. With the trigger under pressure, the hammer will quickly drop on to the next round, and when repeated, can discharge the firearm in rapid succession."
https://centerofthewest.org/2015/06/26/fast-fanning-firearms-leave-it-to-the-pros/

An additional hand grip near the muzzle could make a full auto revolver more accurate:
View attachment 67435794
Full Auto 50cal Desert Eagle


Placing two side-grips on a semi-auto weapon to pull back on a bump stock and having a metal plate rested against the rear of a bump stock would resemble a mounted machine gun.

"Bump-fire devices replace a semi-automatic rifle’s standard shoulder stock and allow the weapon to smoothly slide (or “bump”) back and forth very rapidly between the shooter’s shoulder and trigger finger. By harnessing the weapon’s recoil or kickback, the bump stock causes the trigger to be engaged many times faster than a human could otherwise fire."
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/hardware-ammunition/machine-guns-50-caliber/

Triggerless machine gun with two rear-end grips:
View attachment 67435796

A lot of factual errors in your post.

That M2HB does have a trigger.

Also the next time you're examining a belt fed machinegun, take note of the mechanism required for that feed method, and reconsider how "easily" it can be adapted to any semi-automatic gun.

 

[Michael McMahon]

That M2HB does have a trigger.

The bullets on the M2HB are fired by pulling the rear grips backwards.

Also the next time you're examining a belt fed machinegun, take note of the mechanism required for that feed method, and reconsider how "easily" it can be adapted to any semi-automatic gun.

Simply removing the base plate of a magizine to allow the ammunition belt to rise up and replace the cartridge clip is one way to adapt the gun to shoot more rounds.

 

[RF667799]

The bullets on the M2HB are fired by pulling the rear grips backwards.

Not true.

Simply removing the base plate of a magizine to allow the ammunition belt to rise up and replace the cartridge clip is one way to adapt the gun to shoot more rounds.

No, that wouldn't work.

 

[Michael McMahon]

Not true.

The shoulder activation for bump stocks mimicks the thumb mechanism for the rear butterfly trigger of the M2HB automatic machine gun.


"In this configuration, the V-shaped "butterfly" trigger is located at the very rear of the weapon with a "spade handle" hand-grip on either side of it and the bolt release in the center. The spade handles are gripped and the butterfly trigger is depressed with one or both thumbs." wiki

No, that wouldn't work.

There might be easier ways but metal work isn't rocket science!

 

[RF667799]

The shoulder activation for bump stocks mimicks the thumb mechanism for the rear butterfly trigger of the M2HB automatic machine gun.

View attachment 67435824
"In this configuration, the V-shaped "butterfly" trigger is located at the very rear of the weapon with a "spade handle" hand-grip on either side of it and the bolt release in the center. The spade handles are gripped and the butterfly trigger is depressed with one or both thumbs." wiki




There might be easier ways but metal work isn't rocket science!

Yes, that butterfly shaped object is the trigger. No it doesn’t work at all like a bump stock.

Removing the base plate of a magazine and stuffing a linked belt in there is easy enough. It just won't work.

 

[The flaming lib]

That’s enough to make any limp wristed liberal cry in mommy’s basement

 

[jamesrage]

An electric generator with a pedal could turn trigger cranks into effortless full-auto fire to meet the technical definition of a machine gun (1 hand press on pedal = multiple rounds of burst fire). A trigger crank is virtually the same as a machine gun when one rotation is equated with one trigger pull for 3 rounds. Claiming that a trigger crank is still semi-auto when a third of a rotation is equated to one pull of a trigger doesn't reflect the surplus kinetic energy of the moving crank. For example a bike can keep moving passively even when the pedals aren't being swung owing to the initial momentum. If machine guns are banned then so should semi-autos!

View attachment 67435789
Turning your AR-15 into a mini Gatling Gun! (GAT CRANK) |

Homemade drum magazines would be relatively easy to construct. Belt-fed ammunition would also be relatively easy to navigate into the chamber of any semi-auto firearm. Banning drum magazines and belt-ammunition is better than nothing but still isn't the most effective version of ammo control.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...EXTRA-bullets-gun-killed-cop-banned-2004.html

"Theoretically, a belt of ammo could feed a weapon forever. There is no set capacity with most modern weapons that use belts. Belts of ammo can be linked together to provide however long a belt the gunner wants (until of course, the barrel melts or the weapon suffers a malfunction)."
https://www.housemorningwood.com/what-it-means-to-be-belt-fed/

You can not simply stick belt fed ammo into any semiautomatic firearm not designed for chain linked ammunition. Whoever told you that you can lied their ass off to you. You obviously don't know anything about firearms seeing how you believe that you can. In layman's term a belt fed firearm has a mechanism that separates the round from the link and ejects the link. As far as I know no semiautomatic firearm comes with such a mechanism. There are aftermarket kits, but those are expensive and probably banned in some places.

 

[JMB1911A1]

You can not simply stick belt fed ammo into any semiautomatic firearm not designed for chain linked ammunition. Whoever told you that you can lied their ass off to you. You obviously don't know anything about firearms seeing how you believe that you can. In layman's term a belt fed firearm has a mechanism that separates the round from the link and ejects the link. As far as I know no semiautomatic firearm comes with such a mechanism. There are aftermarket kits, but those are expensive and probably banned in some places.

You are replying to a poster who seems to get 100% of his firearms knowledge from movies. His assertions have zero footing in reality.

 

[Michael McMahon]

As far as I know no semiautomatic firearm comes with such a mechanism.

There's little point to belt-fed pistols and rifles in most close quarter scenarios due to the heavier weight. Yet handguns were never designed for shooting into large crowds of enemies like a mass shooter. Hence customising the weapon for belt-feeding beyond its manufactural design doesn't seem impossible.

"Treeby Chain Gun from 1854"
https://fishgame.com/2014/11/belt-fed-revolver/

 

[ASHES]

I like the Desert Eagle. Lara Croft had one and she was a hot little bundle of pixels.

No she didn't. Lara used H&K USP's.

 

[braindrain]

The bullets on the M2HB are fired by pulling the rear grips backwards.




Simply removing the base plate of a magizine to allow the ammunition belt to rise up and replace the cartridge clip is one way to adapt the gun to shoot more rounds.

You really should stop posting on things you are clearly clueless on. That is not how you fire a M2 at all.

And that will not work in a rifle at all. To think this is workable proves you have no idea how guns work and how belt feds work.

 

[braindrain]

The shoulder activation for bump stocks mimicks the thumb mechanism for the rear butterfly trigger of the M2HB automatic machine gun.

View attachment 67435824
"In this configuration, the V-shaped "butterfly" trigger is located at the very rear of the weapon with a "spade handle" hand-grip on either side of it and the bolt release in the center. The spade handles are gripped and the butterfly trigger is depressed with one or both thumbs." wiki




There might be easier ways but metal work isn't rocket science!

So exactly opposite of what you claimed. Well at least you are learning.


How you prove you have no idea how belt fed machine guns work without saying you have no idea how belt feds work.

 

[VanceMack]

So exactly opposite of what you claimed. Well at least you are learning.


How you prove you have no idea how belt fed machine guns work without saying you have no idea how belt feds work.

I was going to point out that there is so much incorrect and ridiculous shit in the OP...but figured why bother.

 

[jamesrage]

There's little point to belt-fed pistols and rifles in most close quarter scenarios due to the heavier weight. Yet handguns were never designed for shooting into large crowds of enemies like a mass shooter. Hence customising the weapon for belt-feeding beyond its manufactural design doesn't seem impossible.

"Treeby Chain Gun from 1854"
https://fishgame.com/2014/11/belt-fed-revolver/

You should quit posting about things you are clueless on. Its funny how you can claim what a firearm is and isn't designed for when you have no idea what you are talking about when it come to firearms.

 

[Super Chief]

It never ceases to amaze me how consistent and often gun nuts flood YouTube and similar to showcase their talents at informing the populace how to take dangerous weapons and make them more capable of harming more people in very short order pretending it is all for "sport" or "informative" 2nd Amendment value.

What baffles me about youtube is how they will take down videos about what youtube considered covid misinformation, but they allow thousands of illegal street racing videos, and other reckless driving mayhem to be showcased on their platform, thus inspiring even more to commit these crimes.

 

[Michael McMahon]

And that will not work in a rifle at all. To think this is workable proves you have no idea how guns work and how belt feds work.

The ammunition available in drum magazines might be enoromous if someone went to great lengths combining 100 round drum mags with a second 100 round drum mags to create 4 circles.


Full auto Glock with 100 round drum mag

 

[jamesrage]

The ammunition available in drum magazines might be enoromous if someone went to great lengths combining 100 round drum mags with a second 100 round drum mags to create 4 circles.

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Full auto Glock with 100 round drum mag

What does a full auto pistol with a 100 round drum have to do with the fact that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to firearms?

 

[braindrain]

The ammunition available in drum magazines might be enoromous if someone went to great lengths combining 100 round drum mags with a second 100 round drum mags to create 4 circles.

View attachment 67435978
Full auto Glock with 100 round drum mag

So you don’t even know what belt fed ammunition actually is.


You should probably just stop.

 

[CLAX1911]

An electric generator with a pedal could turn trigger cranks into effortless full-auto fire to meet the technical definition of a machine gun (1 hand press on pedal = multiple rounds of burst fire).

what the hell kind of crazy crap is this.

Is it a goal for you to think of the dumbest possible way to do something?

Why not have a bowling ball run through shoots and ladders and smack an iron that flops downstairs and a mouse that spins a cage and a candle that burns a string to drop a safe

Let's hope you're not an engineer because it seems like you find the most complicated way to do something very simple.

Really what you could do to make a firearm fully automatic some of them at least is just file off the seer a little bit.