Oceandan
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First, I have to say I'd hope we can all agree, this is not an "emergency" issue. ie: We don't have to rush the solution.
I will also say I believe we can all agree the present system is broke.
Starting there, I'd like to present some facts before proceeding. The last "immigration" legislation was passed in 1986. Like this proposed legislation in the Senate, we granted amnesty to over 3 million while "promising" to secure the border. Some 27 years later, parts of that bill including building so many miles of fence, haven't been completed albeit Congress has appropriated money for same.
Am I wrong when I say if we do the same now and expect different results, we'd be guilty of the classic definition of "insanity"?
I believe we can all agree deporting over 12 million people who are here, is not a "solution", let alone logistically possible.
Can we all agree it would be insane to grant amnesty now, some 27 years later to potentially 25 million without ensuring our border is secure and we're not encouraging more illegals? Btw, please don't use the term "hispanic", this isn't about "hispanics", there are plenty of "non hispanics" entering our country illegally who present much more danger than our fellow humans from Mexico or further south, even with the small percentage of those with criminal intent.
I do not wish to see HHS in charge of determining if the border is secure. I do support OBJECTIVE metrics in order to make that determination.
I do support making the "pathway to citizenship" contingent upon border security.
I'm also completely against putting "community organizers" in charge of assisting in the pathway to citizenship.
I'm in support of "end of the line" for all who are here illegally. I don't believe it's fair for those who have abided by our laws to take longer than those who've broken our laws.
What say ye??
I will also say I believe we can all agree the present system is broke.
Starting there, I'd like to present some facts before proceeding. The last "immigration" legislation was passed in 1986. Like this proposed legislation in the Senate, we granted amnesty to over 3 million while "promising" to secure the border. Some 27 years later, parts of that bill including building so many miles of fence, haven't been completed albeit Congress has appropriated money for same.
Am I wrong when I say if we do the same now and expect different results, we'd be guilty of the classic definition of "insanity"?
I believe we can all agree deporting over 12 million people who are here, is not a "solution", let alone logistically possible.
Can we all agree it would be insane to grant amnesty now, some 27 years later to potentially 25 million without ensuring our border is secure and we're not encouraging more illegals? Btw, please don't use the term "hispanic", this isn't about "hispanics", there are plenty of "non hispanics" entering our country illegally who present much more danger than our fellow humans from Mexico or further south, even with the small percentage of those with criminal intent.
I do not wish to see HHS in charge of determining if the border is secure. I do support OBJECTIVE metrics in order to make that determination.
I do support making the "pathway to citizenship" contingent upon border security.
I'm also completely against putting "community organizers" in charge of assisting in the pathway to citizenship.
I'm in support of "end of the line" for all who are here illegally. I don't believe it's fair for those who have abided by our laws to take longer than those who've broken our laws.
What say ye??