Democrat152
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Immigration reform is nothing but unlimited immigration, destroying any hope a US CITIZEN had, the CEO report states this as I have posted.
The border was not fixed in 1986, "reform" and it will not be fixed this time.
The bill is TREASON
ALL that vote for it are TRAITORS to all US CITIZENS that make up the USA. (they of course only represent the mega Corps)
So you are claiming that all minorities support illegal immigration or amnesty for illegals? Isn't that like saying white people can't dance,gay people can dance, jews are good with money or that black people love watermelon and fried chicken with the blanket statement about minorities supporting amnesty for illegals?
Of course not, but you and I both know a Sizable majority of them do. You and I also know that the minorities will become the majority within a few decades, and if the republican party doesn't get at least some of them on their side, they will become a regional party with little national power. .
There is no clock ticking,it is nothing more than lie invented by pro-illegal scum to entice party-tards to support amnesty, increased work visas and illegal immigration.The clock is ticking, what are you all going to do about it? I don't understand why you all are not grasping the opportunity in front of you, in the form of Immigration Reform.
Seriously people, Pointing all the way back to 1986 is not contributing to your argument. That Was 27 Years Ago! A lot has changed since then, including the president. Once again, how is this in any way treason?
it is Treason because it SCREWS US CITIZENS out of a JOB in thier OWN COUNTRY. THAT is TREASON.
Can you give me any statistical information to support your theory that a large amount of Jobs will be taken?
Can you give me any statistical information to support your theory that a large amount of Jobs will be taken?
'The White House Doesn't See a Path' to Passing Immigration; Paul Ryan's 'Gone Silent' | The Weekly Standard
Immigration Reform is a farse and a joke. It's not reform at all, but a big free ride for illegal aliens.
This is simply supply and demand.Anyone with a braid knows what happens when supply is up and demand is down.You honestly adding 20-30 million(part of the gang of 8 amnesty includes increased worker visas and you have to take into account the last amnesty was given to twice ad many people that those in office said were going to it get it) new legal workers to labor market and a nearly 8% unemployment rate won't have and effect on the jobs availability and wages? What do you think would happen to your wages if we flew in half a million immigrants who can do your job to your city?
Hopefully it never passes.Although Obama has almost 4 years left and even then he could be replaced by a pro-illegal republican or a pro-illegal democrat in 2016.
'The White House Doesn't See a Path' to Passing Immigration; Paul Ryan's 'Gone Silent' | The Weekly Standard
Immigration Reform is a farse and a joke. It's not reform at all, but a big free ride for illegal aliens.
Yes its very simple.
USA phd. Huge debt and expects a $100+ salary and royalties.
China Phd, paid $100 year for education and is fabulusly happy with a $20k salary. Has never heard of "over time" and no clue about "Pensions".......
NOW DO YOU GET IT.
And I can show you the wages of the working man since 1980.
Also pictures of the working man since 1980 "free trade"
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Once again, they have to pay back taxes, current taxes, hold a job, wait 13 years, learn English, have a clean record, etc.. Not. A. Free. Ride
You really should read the bill.
They only have to pay the taxes that are already are on the books. Most illegal aliens aren't on the IRS books and the way the law is written, it's the IRS who have to prove that back taxes are owed. They will only be responsiable for paying for three years of back taxes which ever three years are the lowest owed and given ten years to pay the back taxes with no penalties.
Learn English :2rofll: That was in the 1986 amnesty bill and almost three decades later half of those who were rewarded amnesty still don't speak English.
A clean record ? :2rofll: Another lie. The Senate's amnesty bill excludes convictions for assault and battery, burglary, prostitution, human trafficking, auto theft, drug sales, car jackings, drug possession, DUI's, bestiality, identification theft, etc, etc. About the only illegal aliens who will be denied amnesty are those who have all ready been convicted of murder. That's right, all illegal alien gang bangers will be rewarded amnesty.
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As for criminal record if they are convicted of an aggravated felony, felony, three or more misdemeanors, or voting illegally, they don't get citizenship. That would keep out the dealers, the car jackers, the assault people, the burglars, the kidnappers, etc... Basically most of the people you referred to as exempt. Ah! I almost forgot, the gang bangers cant get citizenship either.
I'm not asking for what you think will happen, I am asking for respectable study that shows that a large amount of American Workers will be displaced by low skilled illegal immigrants.
.There are already substantial gaps in the low skilled labor force (no American wants to do a low paying job that entails a lot of work), Illegal Immigrants could fill those gaps, which would provide jobs for many of them
The 20 million illegals that are already here plus the gang of 8 plan will bring in 20 million additional guest workers. so when I am saying 20-30 million I am being a little conservative with those numbers when most likely it 40 million new workers that will be added to the labor pool counting both the 20 million illegals who will get legal status and the 20 million new immigrants and guest workers over a 10 year period. Of course these are anti-amnesty for illegals sites and anti-illegal immigration sites so you will most likely ignore their numbers.Also, I don't know why you are saying their "20-30 million" illegal immigrants.
There are plenty of sites out there that state the number of illegals in this country are little over 20 million. The government is trying to pass amnesty, of course they are going to give you a low number.The government lied before about the number of illegals getting legal status before passing the Reagan amnesty.They claimed there were only 1.3 million illegals who would get amnesty, it however gave amnesty to nearly 3 million illegals.You can choose not to believe the Government's figures, but unless you have something to back yours up, don't use them.
I am talking about low- skilled workers that are illegal Immigrants (So likely Hispanic), not Chinese people with phd's. And as for "Has never heard of "over time" and no clue about "Pensions"......."-that's an unfounded stereotype.
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