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Immediate Threat is a Lie!

Tanngrisnir said:
Thanks fer tryin'!
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"He's a General! He can't be an imminent threat! He was up in an office somewhere making phone calls and reading maps. He doesn't do nothing!"

It's moronic. You employed his rank to excuse him.

He was leader of a terrorist militia in a totalitarian theocracy. It's 10000 men and he's very hands on. Deal with it.
 
jnug said:
Massive projection for one. Elevating Cpr Bone Spurs far beyond any reasonable assessment as well.
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Jeez, can you get anymore inconsequential? So you admit this is more about Trump than whether it was the right move. TDS strikes again. :lamo
 
Luckyone said:
The statement from Trump that the killing of Soleimani was because of an immediate threat has not been verified by any proof to that effect. Trump failed to deliver to the Senate Intelligence Committee any credible evidence that something had to be done immediately to prevent American deaths from occurring.

This does open the door for a lot of negatives to our Democracy happening given that if this kind of explanation (lie) is allowed to stand, there is nothing that can be done in the future to stop a rash and in the moment decision from occurring that could bring about a 3rd World War.

It has been proven over and over again that Trump is a pathological liar and that he is willing to do anything to get what he wants, even going against the Constitution and the laws. It has also been proven over and over again that he makes decisions rashly (closed the government down for 34 days without discussing it with anyone or having a good reason for doing so) and has no game plan ("I make gut decisions based on what is happening at the time").

It is also evident that Trump is a bully that believes brute force is the way to resolve problems and having the strongest military in the world, he uses it to solve things that his mind cannot solve otherwise.

This is a "recipe" for a disaster occurring.

I don't know about you but my mind always tells me that "preventing" a disaster before it happens is better that "reacting" to a disaster after it happens.

Trump is a "walking disaster waiting to happen" and giving this man more power without control and more time (another 4 years) in which a disaster has a higher probability of happening is the worst possible thing that an intelligent person can allow to occur.

There are now too many examples of this kind of thinking and action happening over the past 3 years to put them all in one of these OP's. All that anyone has to do is Google for the information and each and every time you Google Trump about this, you get more than 20 responses. On the opposite side (Trump Supporters) all you get is opinion and blind faith in which no proof of innocence is shown. In fact, just the opposite as the response to this threat is "prove it" as if giving Trump the continuing benefit of the doubt will make the problem go away.

This has to stop. If nothing else, make Trump show proof of his decisions (such as allow those in-the-know-first-hand) to testify and then make him accountable for every single decision he makes. It is time for all of us to wrest control of the U.S. away from one man and give it back to the the people and the game plan of government established by our forefathers.

Trump is a liar and a dangerous sociopath that at some point (if allowed) will cause this nation to implode.

By the way, below is a video from 3 days ago that speaks about some of the recent examples of what I am saying but in a sad/funny way. Humor often has a way to make us think about we don't want to think about.

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You leftwingers did the same thing with 'no wmd' 15 years ago. It's pure Marxist deception. Just like we saw with the disproven Russian collusion meme.
 
ecofarm said:
"He's a General! He can't be an imminent threat! He was up in an office somewhere making phone calls and reading maps. He doesn't do nothing!"

It's moronic. You employed his rank to excuse him.

He was leader of a terrorist militia in a totalitarian theocracy. It's 10000 men and he's very hands on. Deal with it.
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Which, again, is utterly irrelevant to anything I've posted.

Hey, thanks fer tryin'!
 
Luckyone said:
The statement from Trump that the killing of Soleimani was because of an immediate threat has not been verified by any proof to that effect. Trump failed to deliver to the Senate Intelligence Committee any credible evidence that something had to be done immediately to prevent American deaths from occurring.

This does open the door for a lot of negatives to our Democracy happening given that if this kind of explanation (lie) is allowed to stand, there is nothing that can be done in the future to stop a rash and in the moment decision from occurring that could bring about a 3rd World War.

It has been proven over and over again that Trump is a pathological liar and that he is willing to do anything to get what he wants, even going against the Constitution and the laws. It has also been proven over and over again that he makes decisions rashly (closed the government down for 34 days without discussing it with anyone or having a good reason for doing so) and has no game plan ("I make gut decisions based on what is happening at the time").

It is also evident that Trump is a bully that believes brute force is the way to resolve problems and having the strongest military in the world, he uses it to solve things that his mind cannot solve otherwise.

This is a "recipe" for a disaster occurring.

I don't know about you but my mind always tells me that "preventing" a disaster before it happens is better that "reacting" to a disaster after it happens.

Trump is a "walking disaster waiting to happen" and giving this man more power without control and more time (another 4 years) in which a disaster has a higher probability of happening is the worst possible thing that an intelligent person can allow to occur.

There are now too many examples of this kind of thinking and action happening over the past 3 years to put them all in one of these OP's. All that anyone has to do is Google for the information and each and every time you Google Trump about this, you get more than 20 responses. On the opposite side (Trump Supporters) all you get is opinion and blind faith in which no proof of innocence is shown. In fact, just the opposite as the response to this threat is "prove it" as if giving Trump the continuing benefit of the doubt will make the problem go away.

This has to stop. If nothing else, make Trump show proof of his decisions (such as allow those in-the-know-first-hand) to testify and then make him accountable for every single decision he makes. It is time for all of us to wrest control of the U.S. away from one man and give it back to the the people and the game plan of government established by our forefathers.

Trump is a liar and a dangerous sociopath that at some point (if allowed) will cause this nation to implode.

By the way, below is a video from 3 days ago that speaks about some of the recent examples of what I am saying but in a sad/funny way. Humor often has a way to make us think about we don't want to think about.

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Ummmmm, he doesn't have to share that classified information with Luckyone
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Which, again, is utterly irrelevant to anything I've posted.

Hey, thanks fer tryin'!
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Tanngrisnir said:
If a threat is imminent, killing the figure at the very top of the chain of command won't stop it. If killing the figure at the top of the chain of command will stop it, the threat is not imminent.
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Like he's a conventional general.
 
ecofarm said:
The point being I'm gonna win Thumbsup.webpy single ****ing time. So bring your pathetic bs at someone else.
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Same thought back at ya!

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Be sure you close the door on the way out!
 
JackA said:
Subdued will do. Far from being crushed, ISIS went into a kind of hibernation, then woke in force. I take it you'd prefer yours not be one of the new American lives fed into the grinder.
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I spent two years in Iraq, though not on the bleeding edge. We could have easily drawn back to four prepared bases, which vastly reduces the profile, and things would have stayed manageable. Only an idiot or a politician would pull out at once leave all the tools behind.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Enjoy your magical thinking and fantasies!

Thanks for the easy win.
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Claiming the leader of Quds, a terrorist militia, who personally directed the murder of hundreds of Americans, is "top of the chain" and thus "inherently not an imminent threat" is stupid. It's objectively stupid.
 
ecofarm said:
Claiming the leader of Quds, a terrorist militia, who personally directed the murder of hundreds of Americans, is "top of the chain" and thus "inherently not an imminent threat" is stupid. It's objectively stupid.
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Enjoy your magical thinking and fantasies!

Thanks for the easy win.
 
apdst said:
He's the president and doesn't answer to Congress. If he wants to kill a terrorist, he can kill a terrorist.
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You're "talking" at me, not to me. He owes the American people some answers. "Trust me" doesn't cut it.
 
Mashmont said:
You leftwingers did the same thing with 'no wmd' 15 years ago. It's pure Marxist deception. Just like we saw with the disproven Russian collusion meme.
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and the right wingers are doing the same thing you have been doing for the past 12 years, which is reject truth and fact. Pure greed and corruption involved. Just like Capitalism at its worst.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Enjoy your magical thinking and fantasies!

Thanks for the easy win.
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I could post literally anything and you believe that your continued reply ensures "the win". Maybe not.
 
Paradoxical said:
Ummmmm, he doesn't have to share that classified information with Luckyone
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Did I ask for it? Hell no. But he has to share it with my official representatives in Congress and he is not doing that!
 
digitusmedius said:
Your lies don't begin to pass the laugh test on this subject, Jack, anymore than on the many you've told about climate science. It is somewhat hilarious though the you Cult of Dirtbag Donnie are so patently hypocritical and can't see it. You'd never be caught saying the a Dem president would never have to prove anything to justify or explain his actions. Thanks for doing the job of exposing just how bereft of decency and honesty you lot are for us. Saves us a lot of effort.
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On the contrary, Obama had the same freedom of action.
 
jnug said:
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Bogus argument. Already so stated.

Another rocket attack today in Iraq......so I guess not.

Just so you know, I am not going to continue to knock down your same bogus argument over and over again in an effort to break through what appears to be a cement noggin. Cement noggin is about the only way to explain somebody not understanding the elevated level of risk for all government officials of sovereign nations once we start to sanction assassinating them without even a formal state of war in existence. Do IQ's fall to negative numbers? You might be an authority on the topic.
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How many Americans do you let die before you fight back? Not one leftist has answered.
 
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