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I'm wondering if any of you Democrats feel deceived yet.

redbeer said:
All the democrats were in full support of border walls under previous administrations, but anything "Trump" they obstructed. It didn't matter what, for whatever Trump said or did, they went totally polar opposite and was the most major contributor to the division we now have in American politics......disgusting behavior.
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That's always been a funny aspect of the party. I can remember when both Obama and Hillary ran their campaigns on such promises.
 
vegas giants said:
You can try to change the subject if you like



But trump flat out lied about Mexico paying for the wall


Flat out lied and you know it
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Trump built the wall.....Biden says, "what border". One tries to do his duty, the other could care less.
 
vegas giants said:
Uh no. Does that make you the court jester? Lol
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Seeing as you're the only one who's told a direct lie up to this point.

I don't think you have any clout in trying to pull me into the basket with you.
 
LostinThought said:
Seeing as you're the only one who's told a direct lie up to this point.

I don't think you have any clout in trying to pull me into the basket with you.
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I'm glad you finally admit trump lied
 
LOL
So says the guys who is sucked into every far right conspiracy theory that comes around
 
There is absolutely no reason for me to be feeling deceived about anything political.

None at all.

But thanks for asking!

;)(y)
 
Biden is such a disaster that even Mike Pence sounded presidential recently.
 
vegas giants said:
I heard trump will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it....oh.....wait
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Good lies that helped a bad man get elected president.

He never built his "gig beautiful wall" and Mexico did not pay for any part of the bollard style steel fencing that was erected during his interminable, that is hyperbole, term of office.

American taxpayers, R's, D's, I's or the unaffiliated all paid for it.

He diverted (stole, arguably) monies from military budgeting, that had ALREADY been earmarked by Congress to pay for building and construction repair projects on Military Bases, for the betterment and benefit of Military Families, to improve their lives.

But R-Wingers, MAGATS and other Trump Stupid's will never care or worry about how devious and deceptive Trump was or still is.

Trumpism may not be a mental disorder, but it surely is some ideological sickness, willful sickness.
 
LouC said:
Good lies that helped a bad man get elected president.

He never built his "gig beautiful wall" and Mexico did not pay for any part of the bollard style steel fencing that was erected during his interminable, that is hyperbole, term of office.

American taxpayers, R's, D's, I's or the unaffiliated all paid for it.

He diverted (stole, arguably) monies from military budgeting, that had ALREADY been earmarked by Congress to pay for building and construction repair projects on Military Bases, for the betterment and benefit of Military Families, to improve their lives.

But R-Wingers, MAGATS and other Trump Stupid's will never care or worry about how devious and deceptive Trump was or still is.

Trumpism may not be a mental disorder, but it surely is some ideological sickness, willful sickness.
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Good lord. Under this administration how anyone can gripe about 'spending' under another administration is simply absurd.
 
VySky said:
Good lord. Under this administration how anyone can gripe about 'spending' under another administration is simply absurd.
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The same way I can "gripe" about 'spending' that has happened under any administration America has ever had, including any current administration.

Really quite a simple process.

On the flip side I can also, if I feel it is warranted, approve of spending that happened under past administrations and or the current one.

Again, it really is a so very simple process.

I am saddened that you seem at a disadvantage with this?
 
LouC said:
The same way I can "gripe" about 'spending' that has happened under any administration America has ever had, including any current administration.

Really quite a simple process.

On the flip side I can also, if I feel it is warranted, approve of spending that happened under past administrations and or the current one.

Again, it really is a so very simple process.

I am saddened that you seem at a disadvantage with this?
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Well of course you can. That was my point as how absurd it is to gripe about the cost of the wall as being an argument against it being built. It would be more honest if you had just said I disagree with the policy as the cost is really irrelevant.
 
Grandpappy said:
As more and more Democratic talking points are exposed as false, do any of you feel deceived?
You know they had a hidden agenda, right?
I'm not absolutely sure what that was. My guess is the people invested in offshore slave labor, high dollar donors, initiated the whole thing.
Does anybody remember Obama saying " Those jobs are never coming back ". ?
Still doubt it?
Look at the person they put in the WH.
C'mon people, wise up. They aren't on your side, or any American's side.
They are on the side of multinational corporate profits.
Now, go listen to Lennon's " Imagine" again, and try to relate.
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Could you please be a bit more vague. I thought the left were socialists and now I'm finding out the left is really the driving force behind multinational corporate profits? Next you'll be telling us the right are the socialists.
 
VySky said:
The peace creeps have morphed into obedient loons. At least no mean tweets. That’s all that matters. Oh, and open borders, rampant crime and a completely hosed up economy.

They crapped their mess kits
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Dude, too much fox is turning your brain into mush.
 
VySky said:
Well of course you can. That was my point as how absurd it is to gripe about the cost of the wall as being an argument against it being built. It would be more honest if you had just said I disagree with the policy as the cost is really irrelevant.
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I am not arguing against border barriers being built, but I certainly have just cause to argue against how President Trump went about his doing what he did.

I don't disagree with the policy of border barriers, my posting history here in DP for anyone who has seen it would know that, but the way it is paid for and the bottom line cost are all extremely relevant.

President Trump did a shitty job of his "big beautiful wall" building in regards his methods of funding it and how contracts were let and how construction sites were treated.
 
LostinThought said:
You mean after Biden and is lackeys tried to nearly kill that market, almost a year ago?
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They haven't stopped. This new thing has a poison pill in it that will STILL keep prices high.
 
What a horrid and hateful exchange.
 
VySky said:
👍 lol….. In my world you would have a blast for a day. We would start early of course, have breakfast at the greasy spoon with my church buddies. Then we would head to the airport and fly my 76 year old plane to a near by pasture. Head back to the house picking up a 12 if you’re so inclined. Go down to the pond fish a little. Hammer away on the steel target with my 9. Then start the grill.

We can sit at the pool hammering each other on DP👍

Then mask up and head back to where you came from. Tell everyone you went to Florida
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I'll take you up on your offer and I live in florida so when I go back home I can tell my peeps about my day. I'm especially looking forward to the part where you and your church buddies talk about the progressive in your midst.
 
Grandpappy said:
Give it up man. No one cares anymore.
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No trump supporters care any longer is much more accurate. If you haven't noticed, the one six commission is still quite active and didn't one of the 1-6 participants have his day in court and was found guilty just two days ago? We can still see you even if you are holding your hands over your eyes.
 
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