I'm surprised so many liberals have returned to the Trump Lies routine (1 Viewer)

[Idiocracy]

Funny thing is, by volume Trump's the most honest POTUS we've ever had. He never shuts up. Sure he tells stories, everything is BIGGER, exaggerates, and can be dishonest too. Trump's probably smarter than you, sometimes lies protect people and country. Anyway, here's some fun, I guess Democrats don't lie (cough!), they're just better that way (hack!)...Kamala in debate Vs Trump. This was done because of course news is BS.



Kamala Harris, 09/10/2024 Debate – Fact Check

Qualifying Criterions: Kamala’s response is a lie, dishonest, intellectually dishonest, and/or refused to respond to a clear question. P

1. In response to the question of which economy was better, four years under Trump, or that under Biden/Kamala’s term.
1A. Kamala spoke for two minutes narrating what she was going to do, but failed to answer a direct question.
1B. Kamala said Trump’s plan is a 20% tax on imports. FACTS: The tariffs are already in effect and the percentages charged on imports vary. More importantly, the Biden/Kamala administration did not remove “Trump’s tariffs”, and some tariffs have increased under the Biden/Kamala administration.
1C. Kamala said Trump left us the highest unemployment rate since the great depression. FACTS: The unemployment rate in December 2020 was on the decrease, at 6.7%. Which was the highest unemployment rate since the Obama administration. By comparison, the country has recovered from COVID, yet unemployment is on the increase, currently 4.2%.
1D. Kamala said Trump left us the worst pandemic in a century. FACTS: Did he leave the same throughout the world too?
1E. Kamala said Trump’s attack on our democracy was the worst since the Civil War. FACTS: Unproven, but incidentally, Kamala was installed into the general election without one.
1F. Kamala was asked why the Biden/Kamala administration didn’t remove “Trump’s tariffs”. She did not respond to a direct question.
1G. Kamala said Trump sold our chips to China to improve their military. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
1H. Kamala said, “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again”. FACTS: Unsupported, Trump is not associated with 2025, and has openly rejected 2025.

1I. Kamala went on a speech how she was middle class, yadda yadda. She was raised in elite neighborhoods, such as in Westmount Montreal. Time in Berkley too, she comes from a great line of radically left ideology and living. 1.7M sound middle class to you? https://sfist.com/2021/03/07/kamala-harris-berkeley-childhood-home-could-become-historic-landmark/

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[Idiocracy]

2. In response to the question of abortion:
2A. Note the moderators piped in to say that no State allows for killing a baby after it's born. FACTS: Trump didn’t say there was. He said some Democrats have said they support it.
2B. Kamala said Trump will outlaw abortion nationally, under “2025”. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump’s not affiliated with “2025”, and abortion laws reside at the State level.
2C. Kamala said Trump does not support IVF. FACTS: Trump’s stated multiple times he supports IVF, including “Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is vowing to force health insurance companies or the federal government to pay for IVF”.

3. In response to the question of justice:
3A. Kamala said Pence called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.
3B. Kamala said Trump will terminate the Constitution of the United States. FACTS: This statement is unsupported.

4. In response to the accusation Kamala changed her position on fracking:
4A. Kamala said she’s always supported fracking. FACTS: Kamala opposed fracking advocating for a ban during her 2019 presidential bid.
4B. Kamala said under Biden/Kamala, domestic oil production has seen the largest increase in history. FACTS: Baloney. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m

5. In response to January 6th:
5A. Kamala said Trump incited a violent mob to attack the nation’s Capitol. FACTS: Repetitive false narration, and in fact, Trump called for peace before and during the event.
5B. Kamala said Trump said there were fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville incident, selling a racist narrative. FACTS: Trump said “You also had some very fine people on both sides”.
5C. Kamala said Trump said there will be a bloodbath if the outcome of the election is not to his liking. FACTS: Trump said there will be a bloodbath if Biden is reelected, referring to energy industries.

5D. Kamala said some police officers died on January 6th. FACTS: None were killed.

6. In response to the question of the Israeli conflicts:
6A. Kamala said it’s well known Trump is weak and wrong on foreign affairs. FACTS: Unsupported. The facts show Trump demonstrated the opposite.
6B. Kamala said it’s well known Trump has love affairs with dictators. FACTS: Unsupported.
6C. Kamala said Trump said he’d become a dictator on day one. FACTS: Trump’s statement is being taken out of context. Trump talks a lot of smack, this is called an exaggeration, it’s not a declaration as Kamala presents it.
6D. Kamala said Trump said Putin can do whatever he wants. Partially true, but again, taken out of context. Once again Trump was talking smack, he’s an entertainer. “NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”
6E. Kamala said it’s well-known Trump and “the little rocket-man☺” exchange love letters. FACTS: Unsupported.
6F. Kamala said it’s very well-known all these dictators are supporting Trump. FACTS: Unsupported. Trump was the only POTUS to visit little rocket’s country, perhaps he supports Trump? wars aren’t fun. Putin has stated he supports the Democrats.
6G. Kamala said dictators manipulate Trump. FACTS: Unsupported.

7. In response to the question of Harris’ race:
7A. The mods attempted to bait Trump on race, and he didn’t take it, saying he doesn’t care what color Kamala is.

7B. In response Kamala said it’s a tragedy Trump wants to be POTUS, as he has made it a career to consistently use race to divide the American people. FACTS: Aint that rich?
7C. Kamala said Trump is lying, she’s not supporting taking anyone’s guns away,. FACTS:

 

[Airyaman]

Funny thing is, by volume Trump's the most honest POTUS we've ever had.

Username, thread...yup.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Funny thing is, by volume Trump's the most honest POTUS we've ever had.

Bullshit even MAGAs find laughable.



Well, wait...let's consider this a moment -

No, still bullshit even MAGAs find laughable.

 

[Ikari]

Trump is one of the most dishonest presidents we've ever had.

 

[Cameron]

OP isn't trying to convince us, he's trying to convince himself.

 

[ElChupacabra]

That's cool and all, but saying magnets don't work underwater is where it reached new levels of stupidity for me. YMMV.

 

[Kelby]

"Routine"? What routine?

We get lots of new material to work with every day.

 

[Greenbeard]

2C. Kamala said Trump does not support IVF. FACTS: Trump’s stated multiple times he supports IVF, including “Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is vowing to force health insurance companies or the federal government to pay for IVF”.

I like how the “fact check” is just pointing to another lie Trump told.

 

[Kelby]

"2. In response to the question of abortion:
2A. Note the moderators piped in to say that no State allows for killing a baby after it's born. FACTS: Trump didn’t say there was. He said some Democrats have said they support it."

Uh, which Democrats support "killing a baby after it's born"?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Kamala Harris, 09/10/2024 Debate – Fact Check

OMG, nothing new, nothing relevant?

 

[americanwoman]

Trump's probably smarter than you, sometimes lies protect people and country.

I do hope you listen to the very stable genius for advice. Sure does protect people to stand on a national stage and wildly suggest to inject disinfectants.

 

[Sidd Finch]

Are you claiming Trump is honest?

Oh, shit...you did!!!! LOL

 

[BabaVoss]

Funny thing is, by volume Trump's the most honest POTUS we've ever had.

LOLOL...

 

[Juggernaut74]

Considering you’ve only been a member of this board for a week, how would you know what liberals on the board have argued previously?

 

[Lycanthrope]

I do hope you listen to the very stable genius for advice. Sure does protect people to stand on a national stage and wildly suggest to inject disinfectants.

I had heard, from very good sources, that filling your mouth and ears with horse dewormer protects you from the liberal media.

 

[Redress]

Anyway, here's some fun, I guess Democrats don't lie (cough!),

A claim no one I know has made.

 

[Quag]

Trump is one of the most dishonest presidents we've ever had. Humans ever

Fixed that for you

 

[Argent]

Sure he tells stories, everything is BIGGER, exaggerates, and can be dishonest too. Trump's probably smarter than you, sometimes lies protect people and country.

You said he sometimes lies and then then you wonder why people call him a liar. Odd.
Exaggerations and dishonesty are lies as are stories that contain them. If your point is that he is unfairly called a liar, you utterly failed to prove it because you epically proved he is one.
Kamala isn't president. Time to move on.

The OP might just be the greatest self-own of the year so far.

 

[Quag]

You said he sometimes lies and then then you wonder why people call him a liar. Odd.
Exaggerations and dishonesty are lies as are stories that contain them. If your point is that he is unfairly called a liar, you utterly failed to prove it because you epically proved he is one.
Kamala isn't president. Time to move on.

The OP might just be the greatest self-own of the year.

The year is still young

 

[Argent]

The year is still young

Damn it. I meant to say "so far." My post-reply finger has been 10 seconds ahead of my post-finished brain signal all morning.

 

[iliveonramen]

It's always the same with you guys, you act like it's your duty to just roll out constant BS like you're some imitation Fox News.

 

[Craig234]

Funny thing is, by volume Trump's the most honest POTUS we've ever had.

What a delusional post

1. In response to the question of which economy was better, four years under Trump, or that under Biden/Kamala’s term.

The economy was better under Obama and Biden. Including if you exclude Covid.

1D. Kamala said Trump left us the worst pandemic in a century. FACTS: Did he leave the same throughout the world too?

(the whole post).

On the point above, trump causes several hundred thoudands Americans to be killed by Covid that could have been prevented with competent responses.

Here's an article comparing the US response to 'peer countries', that the US had among the highest numbers killed. So, no, he didn't do it throughout the world, where they had better responses.

On COVID-19, the United States Still Lags Behind Peer Countries | Think Global Health

The United States continues to have among the highest rates of mortality from COVID-19 in the world

www.thinkglobalhealth.org

1E. Kamala said Trump’s attack on our democracy was the worst since the Civil War. FACTS: Unproven, but incidentally, Kamala was installed into the general election without one.

Kamala was wrong. trump's attack on our democracy is the worst INCLUDING the Civil War. They just wanted to leave, not make the rest of the country, the Union, into an authoritarian regime they ruled violating the constitution. When Biden chose to leave the ace, Kamala was chosen by the party, legally, to replace him.

1F. Kamala was asked why the Biden/Kamala administration didn’t remove “Trump’s tariffs”. She did not respond to a direct question.

You probably have one valid point there.

1H. Kamala said, “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again”. FACTS: Unsupported, Trump is not associated with 2025, and has openly rejected 2025.

No, 140 trump officials created Project 2025 for the heritage foundation, the most powerful Republican institution. trump lied - comically saying he both knew nothing about it and disagreed with parts, without specifics - and he then implemented it in office.

 

[Idiocracy]

What a delusional post



The economy was better under Obama and Biden. Including if you exclude Covid.



(the whole post).

On the point above, trump causes several hundred thoudands Americans to be killed by Covid that could have been prevented with competent responses.

Here's an article comparing the US response to 'peer countries', that the US had among the highest numbers killed. So, no, he didn't do it throughout the world, where they had better responses.

On COVID-19, the United States Still Lags Behind Peer Countries | Think Global Health

The United States continues to have among the highest rates of mortality from COVID-19 in the world

www.thinkglobalhealth.org

Kamala was wrong. trump's attack on our democracy is the worst INCLUDING the Civil War. They just wanted to leave, not make the rest of the country, the Union, into an authoritarian regime they ruled violating the constitution. When Biden chose to leave the ace, Kamala was chosen by the party, legally, to replace him.



You probably have one valid point there.



No, 140 trump officials created Project 2025 for the heritage foundation, the most powerful Republican institution. trump lied - comically saying he both knew nothing about it and disagreed with parts, without specifics - and he then implemented it in office.

I stopped reading @ "The economy was better under Obama and Biden. Including if you exclude Covid."....

A. You're ignoring the point of the OP.
B. By nearly all measures or all, the facts prove you wrong. Not that the narration ever belonged to you in the first place. You're just a lazy thinker, like all leftwhiches

 

[Quag]

I stopped reading @ "The economy was better under Obama and Biden. Including if you exclude Covid."....

A. You're ignoring the point of the OP.

Is the point to prove you are in the cult?

B. By nearly all measures or all, the facts prove you wrong. Not that the narration ever belonged to you in the first place. You're just a lazy thinker, like all leftwhiches

Thats absolute BS