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I find that the yard is just about anyone else's as it is mine, but I might get annoyed from what you said, but most people wouldn't because of an invention of toilets and such. But I would not necessarily take action.So you want people just being able to walk around on your land and take a crap in your yard if they want to?
I wouldn't as long as its quiet, though I find that most people wouldn't just walk around, most people are considerate of others, and don't do most of what you're claiming.You want people to be able to walk around in front of your windows when you are trying to sleep?
It is great.This whole idea of no borders and no property sounds great
Such as?but there are certain problems that would result from getting rid of them
Possibly, but I find the concept of "free trade" to be quite harmful to workers around the world.Though I must admit if truly free borders and trade existed, it would help people the world over
When did this become a "free trade" arguement?That is the problem, people complain about "free trade" but they are thinking of NAFTA and CAFTA, which are just managed trade
Such as corporations? The torch-bearer of capitalism now.Truly free trade would truly help people in Africa and other places get a leg-up, that is as long as nobody was exploiting them
Then you might as well throw out capitalism and private property, the very way to make profits is in some way, stealing. Look at the "theory of surplus value" it explains it.I am a free marketeer, but I believe a genuine free market is one with restrictions on exploiting humans like resources.
Axismaster said:Immigrants themselves tend to get a bad rap from society..
Still, if you want to immigrate here you should be expected to obey our laws and pay taxes
You are right.So I change my previous post to reflect that.Blue Collar Joe said:Lets call them what they are. Illegal Aliens. Immigrants grants them some semblance of legality,and they have none. .
The local police should have the right to arrest them and hold them until Immigration picks them up and deports them.
And end the catch and release programs on the borders. That is assinine as well.
Blue Collar Joe said:A few of the laws I'd like to see implemented? If you are found employing an illegal alien, you should be fined $10,000 per illegal that you employ.
If you rent a property to an illegal alien, you should forfeit the property to a poor family in the area that is legal/american.
Any state/federal employee that gives a drivers license/ID/welfare check to an illegal alien should lose their job on the spot. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
If they show up at the hospital, they get required treatment to get them well, and INS is standing by, (properly notified by the hospital) to haul their arse back to the border and boot them across.
Make it where it isn't worth coming over. Otherwise, we'll never end the problem.
Blue Collar Joe said:A few of the laws I'd like to see implemented? If you are found employing an illegal alien, you should be fined $10,000 per illegal that you employ.
If you rent a property to an illegal alien, you should forfeit the property to a poor family in the area that is legal/american.
Any state/federal employee that gives a drivers license/ID/welfare check to an illegal alien should lose their job on the spot. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
If they show up at the hospital, they get required treatment to get them well, and INS is standing by, (properly notified by the hospital) to haul their arse back to the border and boot them across.
Make it where it isn't worth coming over. Otherwise, we'll never end the problem.
COBRA said:Wow & you consider yourself an American :roll: Whatever happen to your moral standards. These people aren't dogs they are humans that are here to make a better living,. it seems to me that your Average Joe wants to deprive any country or people that seem to be a threat. When in reality they are here to make better of themselves. & yes they do pay taxes Because its just that some employers claim that they don't. Also I'm glad that Workers Comp is in effect for some states because if they do get hurt @ work, taxpayers then have to settle the bill & costs. Thats why its good to have workers comp.
Also having a drivers license is intended to make sure people know how to drive rather then to state your residence. there are lots of Dumb A S S people who can't drive yet still manage to get a license. It is not right to deprive Aliens from a drivers license. Does this also mean we have to deprive tourists or international foreigners from obtaining a drivers license???? NO WAY pal! Maybe Americans should focus more on pedophiles that drive to little kids home & rape :doh rather then focusing on something that is inevitable.
& why would you fine someone 10,000 dollars that is only trying to help ?????? :doh
That type of idealogy really degrades What America is all about ( A FREE COUNTRY ) where it was literally founded my immigrants. Maybe some of you should consider being in their shoes one day. i just pity the fact that most of this crap comes from people that have no clue what's it like to be in a country that degrades your because of your status.... Incredible....
If you come into this country illegally and stay here illegally you are a breaking the law,therefore you are a criminal.COBRA said:Definition of a Criminal dictionary.com
Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
Relating to the administration of penal law.
Guilty of crime.
Characteristic of a criminal.
Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.
n.
One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.
Illegal immigrints are not innocent of breaking immigration laws.hmm,,,,, SO we consider Innocent people that are working for minimum wage criminals.... hmmm.. :doh
SO does that mean people that Over-stay their visa's are criminals. ...
COBRA said:Wow & you consider yourself an American :roll: Whatever happen to your moral standards. These people aren't dogs they are humans that are here to make a better living,. it seems to me that your Average Joe wants to deprive any country or people that seem to be a threat. When in reality they are here to make better of themselves. & yes they do pay taxes Because its just that some employers claim that they don't. Also I'm glad that Workers Comp is in effect for some states because if they do get hurt @ work, taxpayers then have to settle the bill & costs. Thats why its good to have workers comp.
Also having a drivers license is intended to make sure people know how to drive rather then to state your residence. there are lots of Dumb A S S people who can't drive yet still manage to get a license. It is not right to deprive Aliens from a drivers license. Does this also mean we have to deprive tourists or international foreigners from obtaining a drivers license???? NO WAY pal! Maybe Americans should focus more on pedophiles that drive to little kids home & rape :doh rather then focusing on something that is inevitable.
& why would you fine someone 10,000 dollars that is only trying to help ?????? :doh
That type of idealogy really degrades What America is all about ( A FREE COUNTRY ) where it was literally founded my immigrants. Maybe some of you should consider being in their shoes one day. i just pity the fact that most of this crap comes from people that have no clue what's it like to be in a country that degrades your because of your status.... Incredible....
Blue Collar Joe said:Quit twisting my words. They are here ILLEGALLY. Minimum wage? Rarely. I am aware of a few that are working here in my town. $4.00 an hour. No way can anyone compete.
Blue Collar Joe said:Correct. And they also don't pay social security taxes, or state and federal. They only pay taxes when they buy something. Otherwise, the money just goes back to Mexico.
128shot said:Does the USA have capital gains tax?
Axismaster said:I have no idea. And on the subject of illegal immigrants, I guess I have had a bit of a change. I used to embrace immigration until I heard about all the TB and other diseases they bring, so now I am a bit pensive, of course I am a former libertarian.
Latina1 said:"whites are known to bring diseases to america, that is why many for not saying thousands of indians die"
TB is here, is not being brought by undocumented workers, they are healthier than many people, they are strong. That is just propaganda.
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