Illegal Border Surge Under Biden Hits Highest Level Ever Recorded

[Chomsky]

Biden broke the system.

The System has been broken for many decades, Rawley.

 

[Chomsky]

You can ONLY claim asylum when in the US, no place else...

That's what ports of entry our for.

 

[BlueTex]

That's what ports of entry our for.

Current asylum law does not care where you apply for asylum as long as you are within the borders of the US...

 

[Chomsky]

It is absolutely not... I'm not sure why this bullshit keeps being thrown.. It is TRIVIAL to determine the actual wording by just reading the statute... I guess it helps support a narrative to rely on ignorance of the actual LAW....


Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.

8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum

www.law.cornell.edu

I'm not sure the right way to tackle this, but this seems to be part of the problem.

When going through a port of entry, everyone - regardless of intent - becomes documented.

Crossing outside of ports of entry allows those with nefarious intent to hide behind an asylum claim if apprehended. Otherwise, the un-apprehended enter undocumented.

It's a loophole that would seem to foster positive motivation to those that want to try to enter illegally, as illegal entry cannot as easily be done at ports of entry.

 

[Individual]

Less than a thousand a year are granted asylum...

Where did you find the number of Mexican citizens seeking asylum? I've not been able to find any relative data on that.

"To be eligible for refugee or asylum status, a principal applicant must meet the definition of a
refugee set forth in section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which
states in part that a refugee is a person who is unable or unwilling to return to his or her country
of nationality because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race,
religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. 9 Applicants
for refugee status are outside the United States, whereas applicants seeking asylum are either
within the United States or arriving at a U.S. port of entry (POE)."

 

[Chomsky]

Current asylum law does not care where you apply for asylum as long as you are within the borders of the US...

Thanks. I'm aware. Moments ago, I responded to you concerning this in another post.

 

[Davin]

^^ Here's one of the lame excuses made by democrats. Remember not to vote for them.

Trump supporters are liars and are never to be believed

 

[BlueTex]

I'm not sure the right way to tackle this, but this seems to be part of the problem.

When going through a port of entry, everyone - regardless of intent - becomes documented.

Crossing outside of ports of entry allows those with nefarious intent to hide behind an asylum claim if apprehended. Otherwise, the un-apprehended enter undocumented.

It's a loophole that would seem to foster positive motivation to those that want to try to enter illegally, as illegal entry cannot as easily be done at ports of entry.

Agreed and we should eliminate that loophole...

 

[Lovebug]

They don't care about anything except a wide open border of chaos.

They don't even care about the sweltering hot tractor trailers full of dead immigrants.

All they care about is retaining power. The left are all liars and miscreants.

That quite a generalization as we so often read in angry responses.

 

[Chomsky]

This.

The old saw, "We are a country of law, or we are nothing", is a fundamental pillar of our Republic.

All we have that makes us American is the Constitution. That's it. A piece of paper. Either we follow it, or we don't. When you eschew adherence to the law, you have a break-down of society,

 

[BlueTex]

Where did you find the number of Mexican citizens seeking asylum? I've not been able to find any relative data on that.

"To be eligible for refugee or asylum status, a principal applicant must meet the definition of a
refugee set forth in section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which
states in part that a refugee is a person who is unable or unwilling to return to his or her country
of nationality because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race,
religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. 9 Applicants
for refugee status are outside the United States, whereas applicants seeking asylum are either
within the United States or arriving at a U.S. port of entry (POE)."

Page 51...

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-07/2022_0308_plcy_yearbook_immigration_statistics_fy2020_v2.pdf

 

[VySky]

Biden isnt causing that just more people are trying to get in.

and that's because of Biden, not Trump.

 

[Chomsky]

Agreed and we should eliminate that loophole...

That's my take, but it's quite complex & won't be easy to figure-out.

Another very difficult, but important problem to figure-out, is Visa overstays. The numbers may have shifted with the recent rise in Southern border crossings, but up until just recently more were here illegally via visa overstays than illegal undocumented crossings!

 

[VySky]

So you are going to show us why and how it's the dems and biden's fault, right?

I wouldn't.

Why would one expect anyone should have to prove water is wet?

 

[Lovebug]

To be granted asylum, people must come to the U.S. or the border and must prove their case.

Elected officials and news outlets often mischaracterize those seeking asylum at the border as breaking the law or failing to seek protection “the right way.” However, under U.S. law, a person seeking asylum may do so by arriving at the border and asking to be screened by U.S. officials at a “port of entry,” or by entering the U.S. without prior inspection and then declaring their fear of persecution.

Five Things to Know About the Right to Seek Asylum

Although our laws provide a clear right for people fleeing persecution to seek asylum in the United States, anti-immigration lawmakers have purposefully sown confusion about the law, the process of applying for asylum, and what is really needed to ensure a fair and orderly system for considering...

www.aclu.org

Interesting is also this

Elected officials in both parties have sought to justify restrictive asylum policies for their “deterrence” value, claiming that they discourage migrants from coming to the border.

But these policies do not stop people from seeking safety and ultimately create more disorder. Title 42, for example, has encouraged people seeking protection to try multiple times to cross. Even after imposing the strictest and most punitive rules against asylum seekers, President Trump faced sharp increases in the numbers of migrants seeking asylum at the border, the highest numbers in over a decade.

 

[Lovebug]

The old saw, "We are a country of law, or we are nothing", is a fundamental pillar of our Republic.

All we have that makes us American is the Constitution. That's it. A piece of paper. Either we follow it, or we don't. When you eschew adherence to the law, you have a break-down of society,

In my previous post I quoted a few bits from an ACLU article. We need to simplify our laws it seems, instead of making them confusing and restrictive.

 

[Mycroft]

Trump and the GOP had two years to tackle immigration. They did a dog & pony show, while lining their pockets with corporate money.

Yes. The GOP Elites had their agenda, which wasn't the same as Trump's agenda.

Hell, Trump told them to do something about the Dreamers...send a bill to his desk and he'd sign it. They didn't.

And the Dem Elites didn't want to do anything about the Dreamers, either. They still don't...and they've had almost two years.

 

[azgreg]

and that's because of Biden, not Trump.

It's because of neither.

 

[ttwtt78640]

And we should change the law such that we don't require them all to have hearings...

Why…?

Should we also do away with other civil court hearings and just take those who make civil claims at their word?

 

[Chomsky]

In my previous post I quoted a few bits from an ACLU article. We need to simplify our laws it seems, instead of making them confusing and restrictive.

Fair enough.

But in specific regard to immigration, the underlying problem IMO is the inherent difficulties involved:

How do we assure visa holders do not over-stay?

What do we do with asylum seekers that "wash-up" upon our boarder?

These are not easy problems to solve in their inherent nature!

 

[Chomsky]

Yes. The GOP Elites had their agenda, which wasn't the same as Trump's agenda.

Hell, Trump told them to do something about the Dreamers...send a bill to his desk and he'd sign it. They didn't.

And the Dem Elites didn't want to do anything about the Dreamers, either. They still don't...and they've had almost two years.

Trump says a lot of stuff, but did little (while blaming everyone but himself).

 

[Common Sense 1]

The Biden administration is a hot mess when it comes to protecting our borders!

800,000 Gotaways this year, Fentanyl pouring in each month at about 830 pounds, something like 80 terrorists arrested at the
border. How many made in undetected?


The number of migrant arrivals reported along the U.S.-Mexico border in fiscal year 2022 surpassed 2 million in August, an all-time high driven in part by unprecedented levels of migration from Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, according to government data published Monday.

Biden needs to see that our immigration laws are being enforced! "take care that the laws be faithfully executed"

He is not doing that basic responsibility!

 

[ttwtt78640]

Fair enough.

But in specific regard to immigration, the underlying problem IMO is the inherent difficulties involved:

How do we assure visa holders do not over-stay?

What do we do with asylum seekers that "wash-up" upon our boarder?

These are not easy problems to solve in their inherent nature!

Deport them. The ‘root cause’ of having (well over?)12M illegal (aka ‘undocumented’) immigrants inside the US is that simply being here illegally has been deemed insufficient to warrant deportation.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Illegal Border Surge Under Biden Hits Highest Level Ever Recorded


This isn't by accident; it's an entirely intentional and planned action by the democrats and the Biden administration.

It's important to remember: don't vote for these people in 2 weeks. They're liars.

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https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/immigration-border-crossings/2022/10/22/id/1093001/

Couldn't find a valid source.

 

[ttwtt78640]

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https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/immigration-border-crossings/2022/10/22/id/1093001/

Couldn't find a valid source.

Really?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...ar-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

US border encounters top 2 million in fiscal year 2022 | CNN Politics

US border authorities encountered more than 2 million migrants, some of whom repeatedly tried to cross the border, in fiscal year 2022, according to newly released US Customs and Border Protection data.

www.cnn.com

Illegal border crossings to US from Mexico hit annual high

U.S. authorities say a surge in migration from Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua in September brought the number of illegal crossings to the highest level ever recorded in a fiscal year

abcnews.go.com