If you were a White Middle to Upper Class Business Owner in Baltimore, what now?

[Kurmugeon]

The precedents set by the series of events since Freddie Grays death, for Well-to-Do Business owning White Families in Baltimore, and probably all of Maryland, are horrific almost beyond words:

* Now there will be a double standard of confrontation, arrest and law enforcement which essentially places Blacks above and beyond the law.

* Rioting, Looting, and Assault, By BLACKS ONLY, to achieve a list of political demands is now authorized. Essentially we have given a License to commit Domestic Terrorism.

* Business Insurance rates, for any policy which covers riots and looting will cost too much to practical.

* In won't take the worst of the Baltimore Black Criminal Element long to figure out that home invasion police response will be slow to non-existent, and White Family homes have stuff to take.

* Drug Use and Sales will be open for any who wish to participate, no further enforcement of Drug Laws will occur in the foreseeable future.

* Assaults against Whites who are out at a Pub having dinner has been similarly "Authorized" and "Social Justified".

* Police officers, particularly White Officers, will all be looking for new jobs, and new recruiting will be extremely difficult and expensive.

* The mob will now have an expectation that anytime one of their criminal element gets arrested, and injured in the process, from a black eye, to a broken neck, riots for looting profit, and demands of Police prison sentence sacrifice will follow.

None of this is to say that those responsible for Freddie Gray's Death should have been let off, that they are not guilty of the worst of the charges, or more, or that the Blacks of Baltimore did not have a legitimate complaint.

What I am saying, is that due to the very poor way this entire episode has been handled, the above bullet list is essentially now the ground truth of Baltimore, regardless of what happens with the Trial of the Police officers.

The entire episode, starting from the moment that he was found not breathing, should have been handled entirely differently, to prevent the above list of precedents. But it is DONE now, and the Rioting and Looting is being rewarded richly, and therefore will repeat and escalate.

So, if you were a White, Middle to Upper Class Business Owner in Baltimore, What NOW?

Does it even matter if the Middle to Upper Class Business Owner is White or Black, will they stay?

What happens to White Kids in Baltimore High Schools, when they re-open?

Will Maryland Moving Van Services be the only people to truly profit from this debacle?

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[CMPancake]

* Rioting, Looting, and Assault, By BLACKS ONLY, to achieve a list of political demands is now authorized. Essentially we have given a License to commit Domestic Terrorism.

Uhm, yeah white people are out there looting too.

 

[Redress]

Why do you hate black middle to upper class business owners?

 

[Kurmugeon]

Why do you hate black middle to upper class business owners?

Why do you violate the terms of service and rules of the forum by asking such questions?

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[Redress]

Why do you violate the terms of service and rules of the forum by asking such questions?

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Why do you avoid questions?

 

[AmericanSpartan]

The precedents set by the series of events since Freddie Grays death, for Well-to-Do Business owning White Families in Baltimore, and probably all of Maryland, are horrific almost beyond words:

* Now there will be a double standard of confrontation, arrest and law enforcement which essentially places Blacks above and beyond the law.

* Rioting, Looting, and Assault, By BLACKS ONLY, to achieve a list of political demands is now authorized. Essentially we have given a License to commit Domestic Terrorism.

* Business Insurance rates, for any policy which covers riots and looting will cost too much to practical.

* In won't take the worst of the Baltimore Black Criminal Element long to figure out that home invasion police response will be slow to non-existent, and White Family homes have stuff to take.

* Drug Use and Sales will be open for any who wish to participate, no further enforcement of Drug Laws will occur in the foreseeable future.

* Assaults against Whites who are out at a Pub having dinner has been similarly "Authorized" and "Social Justified".

* Police officers, particularly White Officers, will all be looking for new jobs, and new recruiting will be extremely difficult and expensive.

* The mob will now have an expectation that anytime one of their criminal element gets arrested, and injured in the process, from a black eye, to a broken neck, riots for looting profit, and demands of Police prison sentence sacrifice will follow.

None of this is to say that those responsible for Freddie Gray's Death should have been let off, that they are not guilty of the worst of the charges, or more, or that the Blacks of Baltimore did not have a legitimate complaint.

What I am saying, is that due to the very poor way this entire episode has been handled, the above bullet list is essentially now the ground truth of Baltimore, regardless of what happens with the Trial of the Police officers.

The entire episode, starting from the moment that he was found not breathing, should have been handled entirely differently, to prevent the above list of precedents. But it is DONE now, and the Rioting and Looting is being rewarded richly, and therefore will repeat and escalate.

So, if you were a White, Middle to Upper Class Business Owner in Baltimore, What NOW?

Does it even matter if the Middle to Upper Class Business Owner is White or Black, will they stay?

What happens to White Kids in Baltimore High Schools, when they re-open?

Will Maryland Moving Van Services be the only people to truly profit from this debacle?

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They will leave, why be taxes to death, over regulated, and have little personal Liberty?

Why? For what reason?

I mean why stay in such a state when you have Texas or Nevada?

What does that state/city have that can not be had cheaper, safer, freeer else where?

Not a damn thing...

Let that city be "Detrioted" or "St Louised" if the black majority cites of America want to be Democratic slums fine, Whitey will not be around to be attacked, leeched off of or blamed.

They want to have socialism fine we will not be a part of it.

No one gets to drag down the successful and free into the sewers of poverty and tyranny...No one.

Let them play the race card, or the poverty card America does not care any more.

If you want to make things better, maybe you should not support the same failed ideas from the same people from the same party that has rule black cites for the last 50 years....

How as that worked out?

Higher taxes.
More regulations.
Fewer businesses.
Fewer jobs.
Government run schools that have failed yet oppose school vouchers and choice.
Gun and Self defense laws that make it impossible for people to fight back while going light on violent criminals.
Promoting single motherhood with welfare requirements that produces broken homes and broken families..

All effects of one party rule of the Democratic Party.

What is the fate of these cities?

Further decay, poverty, dependency, tyranny, and Death.

They did it to themselves.

The only thing we can is stop the spread of this infection of statism.

 

[Summerwind]

The precedents set by the series of events since Freddie Grays death, for Well-to-Do Business owning White Families in Baltimore, and probably all of Maryland, are horrific almost beyond words:

* Now there will be a double standard of confrontation, arrest and law enforcement which essentially places Blacks above and beyond the law.

* Rioting, Looting, and Assault, By BLACKS ONLY, to achieve a list of political demands is now authorized. Essentially we have given a License to commit Domestic Terrorism.

* Business Insurance rates, for any policy which covers riots and looting will cost too much to practical.

* In won't take the worst of the Baltimore Black Criminal Element long to figure out that home invasion police response will be slow to non-existent, and White Family homes have stuff to take.

* Drug Use and Sales will be open for any who wish to participate, no further enforcement of Drug Laws will occur in the foreseeable future.

* Assaults against Whites who are out at a Pub having dinner has been similarly "Authorized" and "Social Justified".

* Police officers, particularly White Officers, will all be looking for new jobs, and new recruiting will be extremely difficult and expensive.

* The mob will now have an expectation that anytime one of their criminal element gets arrested, and injured in the process, from a black eye, to a broken neck, riots for looting profit, and demands of Police prison sentence sacrifice will follow.

None of this is to say that those responsible for Freddie Gray's Death should have been let off, that they are not guilty of the worst of the charges, or more, or that the Blacks of Baltimore did not have a legitimate complaint.

What I am saying, is that due to the very poor way this entire episode has been handled, the above bullet list is essentially now the ground truth of Baltimore, regardless of what happens with the Trial of the Police officers.

The entire episode, starting from the moment that he was found not breathing, should have been handled entirely differently, to prevent the above list of precedents. But it is DONE now, and the Rioting and Looting is being rewarded richly, and therefore will repeat and escalate.

So, if you were a White, Middle to Upper Class Business Owner in Baltimore, What NOW?

Does it even matter if the Middle to Upper Class Business Owner is White or Black, will they stay?

What happens to White Kids in Baltimore High Schools, when they re-open?

Will Maryland Moving Van Services be the only people to truly profit from this debacle?

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If you believe even half of the bullcrap you typed, you are way too gone into FNC koolaid land to have any reasonable or rational discussion with.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Why do you hate black middle to upper class business owners?

Says the man who supports policies that make it impossible for them to get out of the ghetto to being with.

 

[Redress]

Says the man who supports policies that make it impossible for them to get out of the ghetto to being with.

Which policies are those?

 

[AmericanSpartan]

If you believe even half of the bullcrap you typed, you are way too gone into FNC koolaid land to have any reasonable or rational discussion with.

So you can not make a point just and insult.

insults are the last refuge of the out-argued.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Which policies are those?

You are against school vouchers.
You are against school choice.
You are against a fair or flat tax.
You are against reduce legal immigration or securing the border (which under mind wages of all Americans but really harms Black Americans who are displaced in college and the work place)

Not sure where you stand on Constitutional Carry or Stand Your Ground Laws.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Uhm, yeah white people are out there looting too.

So their you have caught the whites of Baltimore on film?

I thought they were a legend like Bigfoot.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Uhm, yeah white people are out there looting too.

Yeah, ummm, OWS White Thugs make the Baltimore guys look like upstanding citizens.




I never claimed that low-income Black Americans have a patent on bad behavior.

There are more than enough White Americans who exhibit poor impulse control, and a desire to loot and mooch, rather than work.

Nor have I claimed that ALL Black Americans are guilty of the bad behavior. We all know that most of the rioting, assaults, arson, and incitement was done by out-of-town "Activists".

The vast majority of Low Income Blacks of Baltimore, who did not participate in the rioting, but rather restrained themselves to peaceful, legal, reasonable protests, will suffer more from this than any of the well-to-do, Black or White, who move away.

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[Redress]

You are against school vouchers.
You are against school choice.
You are against a fair or flat tax.
You are against reduce legal immigration or securing the border (which under mind wages of all Americans but really harms Black Americans who are displaced in college and the work place)

Not sure where you stand on Constitutional Carry or Stand Your Ground Laws.

You would be wrong about what I stand for, and nothing you mention have anything to do with the topic. Much fail.

 

[CMPancake]

I never claimed that low-income Black Americans have a patent on bad behavior.

No that's your claim exactly.

* Rioting, Looting, and Assault, By BLACKS ONLY, to achieve a list of political demands is now authorized. Essentially we have given a License to commit Domestic Terrorism.

 

[Kurmugeon]

No that's your claim exactly.

LOL, Now this is just silly.

Not only have I never said any such thing, but I've stated in this thread the exact opposite.

You can try to smear and jeer to put such words into my mouth, but any serious forum debater reading this will just laugh at you.

Maybe you should try something beyond personal insults and smearing lies, if you want debate forum respect.

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[Kurmugeon]

So their you have caught the whites of Baltimore on film?

I thought they were a legend like Bigfoot.

I personally can easily believe that there were low-income Baltimore Resident Whites participating in the looting.

What we did not see, and probably never will, is roving bands of militant whites throwing metal objects through Pub Windows at Black Middle Class diners, screaming Anti-Black racial epithets. If any white person were to do so, they would be almost immediately killed.

The police abuse and resulting death of Freddie was more likely due to frustration by the police with a repeat drug dealer offender, than prejudice against his race. Particularly given the fact that some of the six officers charged were Black.

But that's not how the MSM and the manipulating Lawyer and Politicians WANTED America to see these events.

The people we see in the news reports even now, shouting, smiling, and celebrating the charges brought against the police officers, are ALL Black, even if there are actually white Baltimore citizens also happy at the charges being brought against the officers.

Whatever the REAL Story was behind the death of Freddie, Thanks to profiteering politicians and MSM news, it is all about race now...

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[AmericanSpartan]

You would be wrong about what I stand for, and nothing you mention have anything to do with the topic. Much fail.

Well you say you are a liberal, if you do not support such things they why are you one?

It has everything to do with it, high taxes, high regulations, failed school have created a slum city. Filled with criminals what predate at will because they public is bared from carrying firearms due to moronic laws that do nothing but disarm them.

 

[Redress]

Well you say you are a liberal, if you do not support such things they why are you one?

It has everything to do with it, high taxes, high regulations, failed school have created a slum city. Filled with criminals what predate at will because they public is bared from carrying firearms due to moronic laws that do nothing but disarm them.

OK, so now that we have established you have no clue what a liberal is, do you have anything actually on topic? Or will you run away from hard questions like the OP?

 

[Kurmugeon]

OK, so now that we have established you have no clue what a liberal is, do you have anything actually on topic? Or will you run away from hard questions like the OP?

The questions raised for this thread are stated in the OP:

So, if you were a White, Middle to Upper Class Business Owner in Baltimore, What NOW?

Does it even matter if the Middle to Upper Class Business Owner is White or Black, will they stay?

What happens to White Kids in Baltimore High Schools, when they re-open?

Will Maryland Moving Van Services be the only people to truly profit from this debacle?

And the questions to be addressed on this thread are not the flame-bait questions raised by some low skill, underhanded, rule ignoring forum debaters.

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[AmericanSpartan]

OK, so now that we have established you have no clue what a liberal is, do you have anything actually on topic? Or will you run away from hard questions like the OP?

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs
Clearly you do not have a clue.

Yes it does such policies have created the current hellscape of Baltimore.

 

[Redress]

The questions raised for this thread are stated in the OP:



And the questions to be addressed on this thread are not the flame-bait questions raised by some low skill, underhanded, rule ignoring forum debaters.

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I did answer your questions, but not in the form you wanted. I pointed out how you see everything in terms of race. That is the problem with the premise of this thread. Your insults are not going to make your thread any less foolish.

 

[Redress]

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs
Clearly you do not have a clue.

Yes it does such policies have created the current hellscape of Baltimore.

Man, that source is hilariously ****ing bad. Let me give you a hint: liberalism and conservatism are ideologies. They represent a philosophy, not a stance on any issue. Or to put it another way, what is the conservative position on same sex marriage, and what is the liberal position on tax policy. Bet you get both wrong...

 

[Kobie]

I see Kurmugeon is on the "persecuted white man" schtick again.

 

[Kobie]

The problem with this thread is that the idea that "only black people loot" is a LIE.