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If you vote for either Clinton or Trump... you are a fool

jdog said:
I will leave you with one last thought. Those of you who vote for one of the two unqualified candidates, at least half of you will need to take direct responsibility for the crimes they commit over the next 4 years because you endorsed them and are responsible in part for them being in position to commit the crimes they will commit.
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That's complete nonsense.
 
Jack Hays said:
I will not vote for either HRC or DT because I do not wish to bear the moral stain of voting for either. I believe she is fully as unacceptable as he is.
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Voting this year is kinda like sharting yourself.

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Jack Hays said:
Tomorrow I will write in Mrs. Hays. We have arrived at such a low level that defense of my personal integrity is the only goal in reach as I vote.
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There sure is no integrity in either candidate or even this election. The only thing left is to stay out of the cesspool of all those who have or will jump in and vote for Trump or Clinton.
 
Glowpun said:
I am voting, as with a lot of people I know, for neither. So there. Call it a protest vote. Yes, we do understand that 98% of voters are mindless lemmings.
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They are mindless lemmings because they only are attracted to politics when it is late. People will vote and a president will be elected and 80% will not pay any attention to the faults of the system until those running next time step up. Again, it will be late. The day after the election the third party candidates need to get out there and make it known to the flocks who are unhappy. Until most of the people are committed to making a change next time Americans will be voting for the lesser of two evils.
 
jdog said:
What chaffs my ass is that the American public is completely derelict in their duty as citizens. If either Clinton or Trump get into office, it is exactly what the American people deserve because they have not stood up for the principals this country was founded on.

You vote is your personal endorsement, it is not a choice of the lesser of two evils. If neither candidate is acceptable, then you need to write none on your ballot and let the world know it. If it became common knowledge that 60 or 70 percent of the American voters did not choose either candidate, it would show the world that the emperor had no clothes. It would show that the system was broken, and force the establishment to make radical changes.
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Yes, and writing on your ballot does exactly nothing. You have wasted an extra 5 seconds in the polling place. The person disgusted with the system, government, candidates and the process needs to start working for change the of the election and not two or three years after this election is over. Nothing changes because no one does anything beside moan and write silly things on their ballots.
 
A vote for Socialist Workers Party Candidate Alyson Kennedy works for me.
 
If people have sincere convictions one way or another regarding Trump/Clinton there is no shame in them voting for them. I do believe Trump is a moron and Clinton is a corrupt criminal and I personally voted 3rd party in protest of the two, but I wouldn't judge someone else's vote for either candidate.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
They are mindless lemmings because they only are attracted to politics when it is late. People will vote and a president will be elected and 80% will not pay any attention to the faults of the system until those running next time step up. Again, it will be late. The day after the election the third party candidates need to get out there and make it known to the flocks who are unhappy. Until most of the people are committed to making a change next time Americans will be voting for the lesser of two evils.
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The mindless lemmings are those who vote for the choices they are given. You may vote for our candidate A, or our candidate B.. You really have no choice, as we own both and they will do as they are instructed by the people who really run your country and your lives.

You are worthless peasants who are deceived into thinking you have some say in your own lives. You are fools. The establishment owns you and farms you as livestock. You only serve one purpose and that is to serve the elite. You are a slave class, as your parents were before you and your children and grandchildren will be. The same families have run this country going back hundreds of years and will continue to do so going forward.

Go vote, and tell yourself you are free if that makes you feel better. Then get up every morning and go to your wage slave jobs until you are too old and then die poor and diseased, having accumulated nothing, and having lived only to serve your masters.
 
jdog said:
The mindless lemmings are those who vote for the choices they are given. You may vote for our candidate A, or our candidate B.. You really have no choice, as we own both and they will do as they are instructed by the people who really run your country and your lives.

You are worthless peasants who are deceived into thinking you have some say in your own lives. You are fools. The establishment owns you and farms you as livestock. You only serve one purpose and that is to serve the elite. You are a slave class, as your parents were before you and your children and grandchildren will be. The same families have run this country going back hundreds of years and will continue to do so going forward.

Go vote, and tell yourself you are free if that makes you feel better. Then get up every morning and go to your wage slave jobs until you are too old and then die poor and diseased, having accumulated nothing, and having lived only to serve your masters.
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No, the people are mindless lemmings because they do not care until the next election is announced. You can't create change when the cards are on the table. If the people who are incited by this election continue to work toward next election something can happen. There are no inroads to getting a third or fourth candidate. It takes years and years to make peaceful change. All the cute little note on ballots are meaningless. It takes people working toward something different. There are any number of people running for president but the debates only included Clinton and Trump or Republican and Democrat. Others are not even allowed to eat at the table. This is why the people are lemmings. They really do not care enough to make it happen and they are to dumb to find a candidate worth voting for. They don't know or understand anything about political ideology either.
 
jdog said:
The mindless lemmings are those who vote for the choices they are given. You may vote for our candidate A, or our candidate B.. You really have no choice, as we own both and they will do as they are instructed by the people who really run your country and your lives.

You are worthless peasants who are deceived into thinking you have some say in your own lives. You are fools. The establishment owns you and farms you as livestock. You only serve one purpose and that is to serve the elite. You are a slave class, as your parents were before you and your children and grandchildren will be. The same families have run this country going back hundreds of years and will continue to do so going forward.

Go vote, and tell yourself you are free if that makes you feel better. Then get up every morning and go to your wage slave jobs until you are too old and then die poor and diseased, having accumulated nothing, and having lived only to serve your masters.
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Who is this "you" you speak of, and what is different in your life than the the lives of the collective "you"?
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Exactly. Voting for Trump doesn't make you a Trump supporter. Voting for Hillary doesn't make you a Hillary supporter. I am strongly considering casting a 'Bust' vote for Trump, however - because this email **** is getting dangerous. It is borderline a threat to national security at this point. It is unprecedented and irresponsible - to the nth degree - in my view. Tapegate-like disgustingness is not unprecedented for American politicians.

Emailgate, however, has terrifying prospects in the aspect that Hillary Clinton having a private email server in the White House will be the ultimate Achilles' Heel/Trojan Horse amalgamation abomination. It is beyond unprecedented. The standard this sets for literal tyranny in the White House should not only sound the alarm for America, but for our species and civilization as we know it. There will be no going back. There will be no do-overs. There will be no constraints to her power.

In all likelihood, Trump will be impeached within his first 100 days in office. While a second Clinton impeachment is possible, I think the simple fact that we know this, means Hillary knows it to a much more acute degree, and there is no lengths she won't go to, to stop it. That's ****ing horrifying.
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The email gate has closed. Where have you been the last couple of days?
 
katiegrrl0 said:
No, the people are mindless lemmings because they do not care until the next election is announced. You can't create change when the cards are on the table. If the people who are incited by this election continue to work toward next election something can happen. There are no inroads to getting a third or fourth candidate. It takes years and years to make peaceful change. All the cute little note on ballots are meaningless. It takes people working toward something different. There are any number of people running for president but the debates only included Clinton and Trump or Republican and Democrat. Others are not even allowed to eat at the table. This is why the people are lemmings. They really do not care enough to make it happen and they are to dumb to find a candidate worth voting for. They don't know or understand anything about political ideology either.
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To hell with peaceful change, it is time to take this thing down.
 
JasperL said:
Who is this "you" you speak of, and what is different in your life than the the lives of the collective "you"?
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1. Awareness
2. Net Worth
 
JasperL said:
His hiring for his campaign does not lead me to believe that he'll be able to assemble an all-star cast - he ended up with a bunch of misfits and cast-offs, and ran through I think three campaign chairmen. Why would you expect him to do better as POTUS, or frankly to have the humility to defer to experts? There is no indication anywhere he's done either as a candidate.
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Actually, I disagree. Everyone thought that Trump was going to go down in flames so they didn't want to be part of his campaign. Now that he has actually won many will be wanting to hitch a ride on his wagon. Not 100% but enough to give him a good administration. I hope he keeps Christie out of things though.
 
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