If you hear 'Palestinians killed' and dismiss it as 'who cares', it's a problem

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In other words, you can’t actually support any of your claims, so you are repeating “anti Semitism“ over and over. Noted.

No, it is just a matter of the Palestinians no longer having any credibility whatsoever, so nothing that they say will ever be believed again.

All evidence to the contrary
Except I proved that the attack took place already.

Fake news is not evidence. Neither is it proof.

Maybe in your world, but not in the real world.

That is incorrect. In the real world the Palestinians have been proven to be lying over and over and over again.

Yes, they are. The settler colonies are in explicit violation of international law.

Referring to indigenous people living in their own homeland as a colony is nonsense to begin with.

And no. Israel is not required to hand any land over to war criminals who refuse to make peace.

If the Palestinians want that land then they need to make peace. Israel does not have to hand over any land so long as the Palestinians refuse to make peace.

 

[Questerr]

Falsely accusing Israel of these imaginary atrocities is antisemitism.

Israel is objectively conducting forced population removals (and then colonizing seized land with their own people) in the West Bank.

That’s ethnic cleansing.

 

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Israel is objectively conducting forced population removals (and then colonizing seized land with their own people) in the West Bank.

No they aren't. No one is being forcibly removed from the West Bank.

 

[Questerr]

Nonsense. No they aren't.



That is incorrect. The Palestinians continue to attack Israel instead of making peace with them. That is an illegal war of aggression.



That is incorrect. There are no such concentration camps.



That is incorrect. Israel is under no obligation to hand land over to war criminals who refuse to make peace.

If the Palestinians want that land then they need to make peace. Israel does not have to hand over any land so long as the Palestinians refuse to make peace.

True or false: the Israelis have demolished Palestinian houses in the West Bank, removed the local population, and then built their own settlements on the land they removed people from.

 

[Questerr]

No they aren't. No one is being forcibly removed from the West Bank.

Why would you lie when you can be immediately fact checked?

Israel ramps up demolition of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem

Israel's drive to demolish Palestinian homes in east Jerusalem is picking up pace.

www.pbs.org

 

[Questerr]

No they aren't. No one is being forcibly removed from the West Bank.

Who said removed “from the West Bank”?

 

[Tigerace117]

No, it is just a matter of the Palestinians no longer having any credibility whatsoever, so nothing that they say will ever be believed again.



Fake news is not evidence. Neither is it proof.



That is incorrect. In the real world the Palestinians have been proven to be lying over and over and over again.



Referring to indigenous people living in their own homeland as a colony is nonsense to begin with.

And no. Israel is not required to hand any land over to war criminals who refuse to make peace.

If the Palestinians want that land then they need to make peace. Israel does not have to hand over any land so long as the Palestinians refuse to make peace.

You refusing to believe the truth, funnily enough, doesn’t actually change it.

Fake News is just Trumper speak for “anything I don’t want to hear”. Meaningless term which can’t change the facts.

And yet you can’t prove that assertion, rendering it equally meaningless.

Israel’s settler colonialism is what is prohibiting peace in the first place.

 

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True or false: the Israelis have demolished Palestinian houses in the West Bank, removed the local population, and then built their own settlements on the land they removed people from.

There have been houses demolished for a variety of legitimate reasons, but no one has been forced to leave the West Bank.

I can think of a situation where it would be legitimate to remove Palestinians from the West Bank, but since Israel is not doing that, it doesn't really matter.

Why would you lie when you can be immediately fact checked?

Israel ramps up demolition of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem

Israel's drive to demolish Palestinian homes in east Jerusalem is picking up pace.

www.pbs.org

I'm not lying. Everything that I'm saying is true.

Who said removed “from the West Bank”?

Isn't that what ethnic cleansing entails?

 

[Questerr]

There have been houses demolished for a variety of legitimate reasons, but no one has been forced to leave the West Bank.

I can think of a situation where it would be legitimate to remove Palestinians from the West Bank, but since Israel is not doing that, it doesn't really matter.

They have been forced to leave their homes and move to other areas. That’s forced population removal. That’s ethnic cleansing.

Nobody has claimed they were forced to leave the West Bank entirely. Israel is conducting ethnic cleansing a tiny piece of land at a time.

 

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They have been forced to leave their homes and move to other areas.

No they haven't. They still live in the West Bank.

Nobody has claimed they were forced to leave the West Bank entirely.

Forcing someone to leave an area is what ethnic cleansing means.

Israel is conducting ethnic cleansing a tiny piece of land at a time.

Nonsense. Not letting someone live in one specific home is not ethnic cleansing.

 

[Questerr]

No they haven't. They still live in the West Bank.



Forcing someone to leave an area is what ethnic cleansing means.



Nonsense. Not letting someone live in one specific home is not ethnic cleansing.

If an army demolishes your home and forces you to move, then settles people from another ethnic group where you used to live, that’s ethnic cleansing. It doesn’t matter if you are forced to move to another place in the same region.

 

[PirateMk1]

That's the mentality of war criminals - the people who might 'not care' about the Holocaust because of who the victims were, for example. There are cases where there's more support for killing - like against the Axis in WWII, or Russian invaders in Ukraine - Palestinians are not such a case, as much as Israeli propagandists try to make them one.

'Heinous Crime': Israeli Strikes on Gaza Kill at Least 13 Palestinians, Including Children | Common Dreams

While one United Nations official slammed the Israeli bombings as "unacceptable," an Israel Defense Forces colonel called the deaths of four children "irrelevant."

www.commondreams.org

I don't know why the Israelis put up with as much as they do. IMO they should have ended the Palestinians leadership long ago. They need to do that now and start culling the stupid.

 

[Tigerace117]

I don't know why the Israelis put up with as much as they do. IMO they should have ended the Palestinians leadership long ago. They need to do that now and start culling the stupid.

Israel has been trying to crush the Palestinians for decades. They’ve failed miserably.

 

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If an army demolishes your home and forces you to move, then settles people from another ethnic group where you used to live, that’s ethnic cleansing. It doesn’t matter if you are forced to move to another place in the same region.

If you live in the same area then it isn't ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing means forcing people to leave an area.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons why someone can be removed from one specific home that another person is allowed to live in. Maybe those Palestinians were never allowed to live on that property to begin with and were stealing from the rightful owners.

If I go build a house on someone else's property they have the right to kick me off and still use their property themselves.

 

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You refusing to believe the truth, funnily enough, doesn’t actually change it.

There is nothing true about Palestinian lies.

Fake News is just Trumper speak for “anything I don’t want to hear”. Meaningless term which can’t change the facts.

That is incorrect. It refers to things that are not true.

And yet you can’t prove that assertion, rendering it equally meaningless.

No. I just can't be bothered. The Palestinians have been proven to be lying a billion times already.

There is no need to bother listening to them anymore.

Israel’s settler colonialism is what is prohibiting peace in the first place.

Wrong. First, indigenous Israelis living in their own homeland is not colonialism.

And second, no. Palestinian intransigence has nothing to do with any settlements.

Israel has been trying to crush the Palestinians for decades. They’ve failed miserably.

That is incorrect. All Israel is doing is defending themselves from murderers who refuse to make peace.

 

[Questerr]

If you live in the same area then it isn't ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing means forcing people to leave an area.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons why someone can be removed from one specific home that another person is allowed to live in. Maybe those Palestinians were never allowed to live on that property to begin with and were stealing from the rightful owners.

If I go build a house on someone else's property they have the right to kick me off and still use their property themselves.

So by your definition, the Serbs didn’t ethnically cleanse the Croats in Yugoslavia because the displaced Croats were still in parts of Yugoslavia?

The West Bank is not Israeli property. It’s Palestinian property. They are kicking them out of their homes and stealing the land. The displaced Palestinians are then forced into tiny walled enclaves that are functionally concentration camps.

 

[Tigerace117]

There is nothing true about Palestinian lies.



That is incorrect. It refers to things that are not true.



No. I just can't be bothered. The Palestinians have been proven to be lying a billion times already.

There is no need to bother listening to them anymore.



Wrong. First, indigenous Israelis living in their own homeland is not colonialism.

And second, no. Palestinian intransigence has nothing to do with any settlements.



That is incorrect. All Israel is doing is defending themselves from murderers who refuse to make peace.

You haven’t been able to prove they are ”lying” in the first place, so that claim holds no water.

Prove it. You going “no no no” is not evidence.


So you can’t provide a single piece of evidence and expect everyone to just take your word for it anyway? Yeah...,pass


Wrong. The Israeli colonies are explicitly in violation of international law, and are what keeps the conflict running. How many wars has Israel fought against Egypt since they abandoned their efforts to colonize the Sinai?

There can be no peace until Israel ceases its colonization efforts.

 

[PirateMk1]

Israel has been trying to crush the Palestinians for decades. They’ve failed miserably.

No they haven't, not by a long shot.

 

[Tigerace117]

No they haven't, not by a long shot.

Yes, they have. All those bombs dropped, all those commando raids, and the Palestinians are still fighting on.

 

[NatMorton]

The UN charter is a document of international law that binds its voluntary signatories.

International law is a fiction. Ultimately, it means nothing.

 

[PirateMk1]

Yes, they have. All those bombs dropped, all those commando raids, and the Palestinians are still fighting on.

Yea, no. Israelis playing with kid gloves.

 

[Questerr]

International law is a fiction. Ultimately, it means nothing.

So there’s no such thing as war crimes, yes? At most countries that violate the Geneva Conventions have just broken a treaty?

 

[Tigerace117]

Yea, no. Israelis playing with kid gloves.

Maybe in some alternate universe, but not in this one.

 

[Roadvirus]

That's the mentality of war criminals - the people who might 'not care' about the Holocaust because of who the victims were, for example. There are cases where there's more support for killing - like against the Axis in WWII, or Russian invaders in Ukraine - Palestinians are not such a case, as much as Israeli propagandists try to make them one.

'Heinous Crime': Israeli Strikes on Gaza Kill at Least 13 Palestinians, Including Children | Common Dreams

While one United Nations official slammed the Israeli bombings as "unacceptable," an Israel Defense Forces colonel called the deaths of four children "irrelevant."

www.commondreams.org

Funny how your article's title (or your thread title) doesn't mention they were aiming at Jihadists.

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israel launched targeted airstrikes in densely populated areas of the Gaza Strip early Tuesday, killing three senior commanders of the Islamic Jihad militant group in their homes and at least 10 civilians, Palestinian health officials said. Two of the commanders’ wives, several of their children and civilian neighbors — including a hospital director, his wife and son — were among the dead.

Israeli strikes on Gaza kill 3 senior militants, 12 others

The Israeli military says it has killed three senior commanders of the militant Islamic Jihad group in targeted airstrikes. Palestinian health officials said 15 people were killed, including the commanders and members of their families. The Palestinian Health Ministry said 20 people were...

apnews.com

And it's not Israel's fault that these snakes are hiding themselves among innocent civilians.

 

[Tigerace117]

Funny how your article's title (or your thread title) doesn't mention they were aiming at Jihadists.

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israel launched targeted airstrikes in densely populated areas of the Gaza Strip early Tuesday, killing three senior commanders of the Islamic Jihad militant group in their homes and at least 10 civilians, Palestinian health officials said. Two of the commanders’ wives, several of their children and civilian neighbors — including a hospital director, his wife and son — were among the dead.

Israeli strikes on Gaza kill 3 senior militants, 12 others

The Israeli military says it has killed three senior commanders of the militant Islamic Jihad group in targeted airstrikes. Palestinian health officials said 15 people were killed, including the commanders and members of their families. The Palestinian Health Ministry said 20 people were...

apnews.com

And it's not Israel's fault that these snakes are hiding themselves among innocent civilians.

Israel choosing to throw around high explosives and killing innocent people as a result absolutely is their fault