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If you are against abortion, why?

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My suggestion, if you are against abortion don't get one but I'm interested in why some folks think they have the right to tell women what they can and can't do about the issue.

Are you against abortion for religious beliefs? If so you are basically saying we should make laws based on your religious beliefs of christianity. Would that be an accurate assessment?

If you are saying it's because abortion is murder in your opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter, the law says it's not murder.

Which leaves one other option, the control of women by men.

So, what's your personal reason for trying to strip away the rights of women?
 
bongsaway said:
My suggestion, if you are against abortion don't get one but I'm interested in why some folks think they have the right to tell women what they can and can't do about the issue.

Are you against abortion for religious beliefs? If so you are basically saying we should make laws based on your religious beliefs of christianity. Would that be an accurate assessment?

If you are saying it's because abortion is murder in your opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter, the law says it's not murder.

Which leaves one other option, the control of women by men.

So, what's your personal reason for trying to strip away the rights of women?
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You are saying that if your opinion is again the current law it doesn’t matter? How would anything change if that were a legitimate position to have?
 
bongsaway said:
If you are saying it's because abortion is murder in your opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter, the law says it's not murder.
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I support a woman's right to choose so I'm not part of your target demographic. That being said, I'd like to chime in that I don't agree with this statement. A person can have an opinion and the expression of that opinion can lead to a change in a law. Laws change all the time--usually because someone had an opinion and defended it in the right forum and convinced the right people that the law should change. So, opinions very much do matter.
 
bongsaway said:
My suggestion, if you are against abortion don't get one but I'm interested in why some folks think they have the right to tell women what they can and can't do about the issue.

Are you against abortion for religious beliefs? If so you are basically saying we should make laws based on your religious beliefs of christianity. Would that be an accurate assessment?

If you are saying it's because abortion is murder in your opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter, the law says it's not murder.

Which leaves one other option, the control of women by men.

So, what's your personal reason for trying to strip away the rights of women?
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Because no one should have the right to deliberately kill an innocent human being.
 
bongsaway said:
My suggestion, if you are against abortion don't get one but I'm interested in why some folks think they have the right to tell women what they can and can't do about the issue.

Are you against abortion for religious beliefs? If so you are basically saying we should make laws based on your religious beliefs of christianity. Would that be an accurate assessment?

If you are saying it's because abortion is murder in your opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter, the law says it's not murder.

Which leaves one other option, the control of women by men.

So, what's your personal reason for trying to strip away the rights of women?
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Ive heard all types of reason to be against it, and some i think are very solid and may even share them . .BUT . .I haven't heard any to ever make it law and to violate women's rights, treat her as lesser and force her against her will to risk her health and life.
 
I support choice, which is a big reason I have never been a Republican.

That said, I oppose abortion. The best thing to be said is that it an abortion can make a dire situation less dire. Rarely does it reach that point. Abortion is almost universally elective, rather than medically necessary. The politics of the situation are such that physicians and staff of provider have lied and altered records to conceal the true percentage of elective procedures. However nothing posted is ever erased, so archived statements and reports exist.
 
Crovax said:
You are saying that if your opinion is again the current law it doesn’t matter? How would anything change if that were a legitimate position to have?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what I said, your opinion doesn't matter because it's the law that matters. Your opinion does not outlaw abortion. Also you didn't answer the question instead you asked one. Do you have an opinion on the issue of abortion?
 
phoenix2020 said:
I support a woman's right to choose so I'm not part of your target demographic. That being said, I'd like to chime in that I don't agree with this statement. A person can have an opinion and the expression of that opinion can lead to a change in a law. Laws change all the time--usually because someone had an opinion and defended it in the right forum and convinced the right people that the law should change. So, opinions very much do matter.
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Until the law changes to fit that particular opinion, it's only an opinion.
 
AGENT J said:
Ive heard all types of reason to be against it, and some i think are very solid and may even share them . .BUT . .I haven't heard any to ever make it law and to violate women's rights, treat her as lesser and force her against her will to risk her health and life.
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This would be my position, as well. Even if I find abortion distasteful, I find trampling on a born person's rights to protect the unborn a show-stopper.
 
bongsaway said:
Which leaves one other option, the control of women by men.
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You people love to claim that. But answer this:

How does opposing abortion rights lead to "controlling" women?
 
Atreus21 said:
Because no one should have the right to deliberately kill an innocent human being.
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It's a fetus, not a human being. Again if that opinion were accurate women would be arrested for homicide and that's not happening. So your premise of murder is not accurate. Women who have abortions in general aren't killing human beings.
 
AGENT J said:
Ive heard all types of reason to be against it, and some i think are very solid and may even share them . .BUT . .I haven't heard any to ever make it law and to violate women's rights, treat her as lesser and force her against her will to risk her health and life.
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I have some opinions about abortion but more importantly as you point out, no opinion is more important than the woman's right to make her own decision. I do have some concerns about late term abortions but that's about it.
 
Jay59 said:
I support choice, which is a big reason I have never been a Republican.

That said, I oppose abortion. The best thing to be said is that it an abortion can make a dire situation less dire. Rarely does it reach that point. Abortion is almost universally elective, rather than medically necessary. The politics of the situation are such that physicians and staff of provider have lied and altered records to conceal the true percentage of elective procedures. However nothing posted is ever erased, so archived statements and reports exist.
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And I say the same thing, if you are against it don't have one but don't take the choice of the woman away from her because you don't like abortion.

I think very few people are actually for abortion, most people are against women not having a choice.
 
bongsaway said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what I said, your opinion doesn't matter because it's the law that matters. Your opinion does not outlaw abortion. Also you didn't answer the question instead you asked one. Do you have an opinion on the issue of abortion?
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I pointed out how silly your OP is, if you want to discuss a topic I would suggest doing it from a serious point of view
 
bongsaway said:
My suggestion, if you are against abortion don't get one but I'm interested in why some folks think they have the right to tell women what they can and can't do about the issue.

Are you against abortion for religious beliefs? If so you are basically saying we should make laws based on your religious beliefs of christianity. Would that be an accurate assessment?

If you are saying it's because abortion is murder in your opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter, the law says it's not murder.

Which leaves one other option, the control of women by men.

So, what's your personal reason for trying to strip away the rights of women?
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Change the law. It's coming
 
bongsaway said:
What makes you think there is going to be a change in the law? I think the sc will uphold what already exists.
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Maybe, maybe not
 
I get why some are against it. They think young life is precious and should be protected, even if it means making people who don't want to have babies have babies. They live is some pie-in-the-sky world that says that people always want babies, give it away if you don't want it, but don't end it at the developmental stages. So we need laws to make women carry sometimes unwanted children.
 
VySky said:
Change the law. It's coming
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This is probably true. IMO we should change the law, at least for the final trimester. The fetus is viable for several weeks prior to normal birth and commonly accepted to be sentient as well. At the least, the procedure should require cause and the fetus deserves an advocate.
 
bongsaway said:
My suggestion, if you are against abortion don't get one but I'm interested in why some folks think they have the right to tell women what they can and can't do about the issue.

Are you against abortion for religious beliefs? If so you are basically saying we should make laws based on your religious beliefs of christianity. Would that be an accurate assessment?

If you are saying it's because abortion is murder in your opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter, the law says it's not murder.

Which leaves one other option, the control of women by men.

So, what's your personal reason for trying to strip away the rights of women?
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For the simple fact that is is the murder of a human being. Is that so hard to understand?
 
bongsaway said:
It's a fetus, not a human being. Again if that opinion were accurate women would be arrested for homicide and that's not happening. So your premise of murder is not accurate. Women who have abortions in general aren't killing human beings.
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If you could be convinced that it was a human being, would you oppose abortion?
 
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