If I wanted America to fail:

[dncc]

So the liberal solution is to strip mine the planet in search of enough minerals to build enough batteries, to equip a fraction of the cars we have now, to ensure that only the elite can have cars, that are powered by an inadequate electrical grid that produces rolling brownouts and blackouts to the common folk who can't afford to keep their lights on anyway??

Something like that, yeah??

Well, that and increased focus in schools to prevent double punctuation marks and help eliminate run-on sentences.

 

[dncc]

The writing is on the wall... yes, America is doomed.

Was hoping to live out my days before the collapse; but alas, it is not to be. We have less than 10 years left.

They're going to hit us with rationing of fuel and food, economic collapse, and terrorism. War is a given.

Should be fun

Wow, I guess I shouldn't train for the 2032 Olympics then. I thought I had a good shot too.

 

[wist43]

Wow, I guess I shouldn't train for the 2032 Olympics then. I thought I had a good shot too.

They're gonna rename them The Hunger Games.

You can represent district 12

 

[wist43]

Well, that and increased focus in schools to prevent double punctuation marks and help eliminate run-on sentences.

That was intentional my friend

 

[Chomsky]

I'm not even really talking about the ideology although at times it could be harsh (I seem to recall his stating that we should nuke some place to save American lives that would be lost in battle). Its just the tone and the distinctive voice. I just got it in my head that something troubling was about to be aired. I guess most times I listened it was on weekends and I didn't really have much of a need for more bad news on a Satruday. LOL

I get what you're saying.

We've got to remember he was really old-school, starting-out in a different era. A lot of the older guys of his earlier generation had a similar voice and delivery, though I must admit not as emotive, dramatic, and poignant as his. But, Edward R Murrow comes to mind. Of course, look at the subject though!

 

[American]

Since the video does not work, can we just assume it says vote GOP across the board?

LOL, okay that's funny.

 

[American]

Donald Trump is the current leader of the GOP.. He's about as godless and un-Christian as someone can be... He breaks Commandments daily.. He's flat out said he's NEVER asked God for forgiveness...

So as a Christian and believer in God... Why would I vote GOP? Why would I vote for a party being lead by a person who has lived his life completely opposite of everything Jesus Christ preached and taught?

Amazing..

OHHHHH, so you're judging him? That's quite a confident position to been when discussing religious issues or how one should be perfect before God. Interesting how you brought the GOP into it. Remember what happens if you don't judge righteously.



He clearly seems to seek forgiveness in other ways, such as through works and repentance.

 

[dncc]

I get what you're saying.

We've got to remember he was really old-school, starting-out in a different era. A lot of the older guys of his earlier generation had a similar voice and delivery, though I must admit not as emotive, dramatic, and poignant as his. But, Edward R Murrow comes to mind. Of course, look at the subject though!

There is that. But, here's an example. I was going through some old e-mail accounts the other day. I used to have a pen-pal back in the late 1990's. We actually sent letters. How quaint!!!! Anyway, we replaced that with e-mails. For whatever reason, we stopped e-mailing one another....but I digress. I would sign off on the e-mails the same way Garrison Keillor (sp?) ended his Writer's Almanac drop-ins that you hear on public media from time to time: I would write.... "Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." It got me to thinking about GK.... Whenever I hear his voice, I don't get the feeling of impending doom. I think there is going to be an irreverent story or message. With Harvey and Schour... I sort of mentally brace myself. "Delivery" is probably the way to put it. But I guess repeated content is also instructive.

 

[Ishm]

So the liberal solution is to strip mine the planet in search of enough minerals to build enough batteries, to equip a fraction of the cars we have now, to ensure that only the elite can have cars, that are powered by an inadequate electrical grid that produces rolling brownouts and blackouts to the common folk who can't afford to keep their lights on anyway??

Something like that, yeah??

I think the solution is to get our heads out of the sand and stop using political bias as a reason to not embrace change that can improve our planet and our childrens lives.
Lithium etc batteries are only a place holder until your car is powered by an aluminium battery. You know, that metal you already consume in great quantities in drink cans and such like. Lithium batteries at grid scale are also just a placeholder until Iron batteries replace them in fixed use applications. New solar tech will soon massively increase the efficiency and life of solar panels. Tide and wave generation will become commercially viable etc etc

Bottom line is that the world will move away from fossil fuels at an increasing rate and the party trying to resist that is the one trying to hold back the country.

 

[wist43]

I think the solution is to get our heads out of the sand and stop using political bias as a reason to not embrace change that can improve our planet and our childrens lives.
Lithium etc batteries are only a place holder until your car is powered by an aluminium battery. You know, that metal you already consume in great quantities in drink cans and such like. Lithium batteries at grid scale are also just a placeholder until Iron batteries replace them in fixed use applications. New solar tech will soon massively increase the efficiency and life of solar panels. Tide and wave generation will become commercially viable etc etc

Bottom line is that the world will move away from fossil fuels at an increasing rate and the party trying to resist that is the one trying to hold back the country.

Wow, they surely got ahold of your brain, huh??

Scary!!

 

[wist43]

Saw there's another refinery being shuttered down in Houston.

Everybody needs to buy a Tesla and learn to code, huh??

What could possibly go wrong??

 

[Ishm]

Wow, they surely got ahold of your brain, huh??

Scary!!

According to he many psychometric and management development tests completed through my life my 'brain' runs in the top 0.15% of people on this planet. In pure analytical thinking it's closer to off the chart. Other people never 'get' my brain. They convince me with reason and logic.

When it comes to climate change, i am neither yet convinced or a denier. What I am convinced of though is that there is enough evidence that we should be concerned that man induced climate change may exist. Since I have kids, and hopefully grandkids in the next decade or so, my brain says that is is unfair for me to ignore the possibility that we are wrecking the planet for those future generations. Therefore, i say our current generations should not needlessly gamble with the future when the cost of taking action now, in a reasonable manner, is a lot less than trying to fix a broken planet in the future. To me, the deniers are either just selfish, challenged by quite simple rational thought processes, or have been 'got' by mindless political ideology.

As for my points about the technological advances, do a little research and improve your brain.

 

[wist43]

According to he many psychometric and management development tests completed through my life my 'brain' runs in the top 0.15% of people on this planet. In pure analytical thinking it's closer to off the chart. Other people never 'get' my brain. They convince me with reason and logic.

When it comes to climate change, i am neither yet convinced or a denier. What I am convinced of though is that there is enough evidence that we should be concerned that man induced climate change may exist. Since I have kids, and hopefully grandkids in the next decade or so, my brain says that is is unfair for me to ignore the possibility that we are wrecking the planet for those future generations. Therefore, i say our current generations should not needlessly gamble with the future when the cost of taking action now, in a reasonable manner, is a lot less than trying to fix a broken planet in the future. To me, the deniers are either just selfish, challenged by quite simple rational thought processes, or have been 'got' by mindless political ideology.

As for my points about the technological advances, do a little research and improve your brain.

The fact that you are using the language of the propagandists by describing scientists that don't get in line with the orthodoxy as "deniers" demonstrates that you are not immune to indoctrination.

Intelligence is no defense against indoctrination or simply being manipulated and taken advantage of. In fact, a sophisticated program of mass of psychological manipulation can make easy work of those who think themselves immune. Hubris and arrogance are handicaps.

As for the topic of AGW, I can assure you that it doesn't pass scientific muster. I am a chemist. I understand the science fairly well, and have for over 30 years when I first began to study the subject.

I would suggest you watch the following video of MIT Professor Richard Lindzen explaining the actual science.

Take your own advice and, as you said, "do a little research and improve your brain."

 

[Chomsky]

There is that. But, here's an example. I was going through some old e-mail accounts the other day. I used to have a pen-pal back in the late 1990's. We actually sent letters. How quaint!!!! Anyway, we replaced that with e-mails. For whatever reason, we stopped e-mailing one another....but I digress. I would sign off on the e-mails the same way Garrison Keillor (sp?) ended his Writer's Almanac drop-ins that you hear on public media from time to time: I would write.... "Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." It got me to thinking about GK.... Whenever I hear his voice, I don't get the feeling of impending doom. I think there is going to be an irreverent story or message. With Harvey and Schour... I sort of mentally brace myself. "Delivery" is probably the way to put it. But I guess repeated content is also instructive.

Well, you seem to be perceptive; I understand perfectly what you're saying.

In a way, he may have foreshadowed the Rodger Ailes'/Fox News "feelings" vs data method of delivery.

 

[upsideguy]

It works in several posts

oxymoron much. "I believe in freedom so much I'd vote for the fascist dems.

Jabberwocky from the Atlantic and Wa Poo aren't very convincing.

Though I agree the Atlantic and Washington Post have a liberal lean, they do have some the best and brightest political commentators in the world. Unlike the political smut that many on the right read, the Atlantic and Washington Post deal in facts and run a first rate journalistic process, which is why each of them are among the highest regarded sources of news and political commentary in the world. Perhaps you don't like what they have to say or they are just a bit to intellectual for your taste, that does not change the fact they are pillars of American journalism. You should read what they have to say. You might learn something (like fascism is a perversion of the political right -- making fascist dems an oxymoron). After you take in some serious news, you can always then curl up in the fetal position with some good right wing political porn to soothe the burn you received from getting too close to the truth.

In this case, however, you don't actually have to read a thing to support my point. It is self-evident. The Republican party has sold out of American democracy. It does not believe in democracy at all. They allowed their leader to create and perpetuate a mortal lie; that somehow there was a problem with the 2020 election, against all evidence to the contrary. Not only did many party members participate in an organized attempt at a soft coup, those that did not participate in the actual crime sat back and covered it up (some actively, some passively with inaction).

Very, very few have called out the former president for his lie, others have worked to perpetuate it. Collectively, they have worked to undermine confidence in the integrity of the American election, which is a direct assault on American democracy. Others then leveraged the "Big Lie" as cover to further restrict legitimate voters from access to the polls, which is anti-democratic in its own right.

All those that participated in creating the Big Lie as well as those that promoted it or looked the other way (the disingenuous) and their useful idiots (many ill-informed, many intellectually lazy, many just along for the ride), essentially most of the Republican are guilty of a treasonous assault on American democracy. They, like their "leaders", stand for nothing other than unadulterated power (autocracy). The party has no platform, no governing philosophy, no vision for the future. It is just infested with corruption. It is a political party for the amoral, the unAmerican and those without character.

You are either with them, or you are speaking out against them (unfortunately, far too few are) ... but if you want America to fail, the Republican party is your party.

Spoiler alert -- you may wish to close your eyes as I offer some other intellectual views on the subject....

Is American democracy in peril? — Harvard Gazette

Harvard political scientist and dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences Claudine Gay discusses the future of democracy in the U.S.

news.harvard.edu

Is U.S. democracy in peril?

University of Miami legal and political science experts weigh in on whether the country is in danger of losing its democratic values and practices amid ongoing tensions between political parties.

news.miami.edu

 

[Bullseye]

If you wanted America to fail, you'd post a broken link to a Youtube video?

Cool beans. You do you. I can see why they pay you the big bucks to destroy nations.

It's worked in several replies. Strange stuff.

Though I agree the Atlantic and Washington Post have a liberal lean, they do have some the best and brightest political commentators in the world. Unlike the political smut that many on the right read, the Atlantic and Washington Post deal in facts and run a first rate journalistic process, which is why each of them are among the highest regarded sources of news and political commentary in the world. Perhaps you don't like what they have to say or they are just a bit to intellectual for your taste, that does not change the fact they are pillars of American journalism. You should read what they have to say. You might learn something (like fascism is a perversion of the political right -- making fascist dems an oxymoron). After you take in some serious news, you can always then curl up in the fetal position with some good right wing political porn to soothe the burn you received from getting too close to the truth.

[/QUOTE]
I read as much of The Atlantic as I can - they're like the blind squirrel that occasionally finds an acorn. Same with Wa Poo; sometimes they actually dial back the propaganda gauge and produce a reasonable post. Can you honestly tell me you spend serious time reading any major conservative publications?

In this case, however, you don't actually have to read a thing to support my point. It is self-evident. The Republican party has sold out of American democracy. It does not believe in democracy at all. They allowed their leader to create and perpetuate a mortal lie; that somehow there was a problem with the 2020 election, against all evidence to the contrary. Not only did many party members participate in an organized attempt at a soft coup, those that did not participate in the actual crime sat back and covered it up (some actively, some passively with inaction).

Absolute nonsense. You either have no clue what democracy actually entails or your disgorging the brainwashing your superiors have fed you.

Very, very few have called out the former president for his lie, others have worked to perpetuate it. Collectively, they have worked to undermine confidence in the integrity of the American election, which is a direct assault on American democracy. Others then leveraged the "Big Lie" as cover to further restrict legitimate voters from access to the polls, which is anti-democratic in its own right.

Maybe because your alleged "lie" is just that - a mindless word bomb you guys through out. And nothing ANY Republican legislature has done restricts legitimate voters in any way - Your superiors again lie to you. Break loose from those bastions of journalism you cited above and read so factual Information.

All those that participated in creating the Big Lie as well as those that promoted it or looked the other way (the disingenuous) and their useful idiots (many ill-informed, many intellectually lazy, many just along for the ride), essentially most of the Republican are guilty of a treasonous assault on American democracy. They, like their "leaders", stand for nothing other than unadulterated power (autocracy). The party has no platform, no governing philosophy, no vision for the future. It is just infested with corruption. It is a political party for the amoral, the unAmerican and those without character.

You are either with them, or you are speaking out against them (unfortunately, far too few are) ... but if you want America to fail, the Republican party is your party.

Spoiler alert -- you may wish to close your eyes as I offer some other intellectual views on the subject....

Is American democracy in peril? — Harvard Gazette

Harvard political scientist and dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences Claudine Gay discusses the future of democracy in the U.S.

news.harvard.edu

Is U.S. democracy in peril?

University of Miami legal and political science experts weigh in on whether the country is in danger of losing its democratic values and practices amid ongoing tensions between political parties.

news.miami.edu

Intellectual views? More like Well written propaganda Sorry, your blind partisanship screams from the first paragraph. And your two links? Not slanted much, eh?

 

[surada]

If I wanted America to fail:​

The first of a 3 part series by FRONTLINE on your local PBS station. If anyone is actually looking for something that "says it all", I'd start with this, and be sure to catch the next two segments of the series.

FRONTLINE | The Power of Big Oil (Part One: Denial) | Season 2022 | Episode 5 | PBS

The fossil fuel industry’s history of casting doubt and delaying action on climate change.

www.pbs.org

Extraordinary in-depth reporting. It illustrate exactly how our entire political system, including public opinion, is manipulated by special interests. It . .
. . . says it all . . . .

Wallnau says that in May Trump's enemies will start dying.

 

[ralfy]

That video's a gag, right?

 

[surada]

That video's a gag, right?

Nope. He's a real Texas pastor from Dallas.

 

[jaypatriot]

That video's a gag, right?

Apparently not. Beware the Ides of May.

 

[dncc]

Donald Trump is the current leader of the GOP.. He's about as godless and un-Christian as someone can be... He breaks Commandments daily.. He's flat out said he's NEVER asked God for forgiveness...

So as a Christian and believer in God... Why would I vote GOP? Why would I vote for a party being lead by a person who has lived his life completely opposite of everything Jesus Christ preached and taught?

Amazing..

It is rather remarkable.

What was remarkable was this. There was a movie that came out not too long ago starring Steve Carrel and Chris Cooper. The movie is about these political consultants. What happens is that he (Carrel) gets wind of this YouTube video where this guy (Cooper) stands up at a city council meeting and makes this impassioned speech. The city is in a bedrock red state but the speech he gives is straight out of blue America. It goes something like (paraphrasing), "When Juan helped you put sandbags up to stop the flood from wiping out your store, you didn't ask to see his birth certificate. When Samantha donated blood so your daughter could have an operation with her rare blood type, you didn't wonder if she was sleeping with a man or woman." Anyway, Carrel gets the idea to where he could become maryor. So he enlists all of his political henchmen to come to this small town and essentially groom this guy Cooper to run for office. I won't spoil the surprise ending...it comes out of nowhere.

But anyway, Cooper in the same speech I paraphrased above finished his speech before council saying (again paraphrasing), "If you still act like this, you don't have Christian values...you have hobbies."

 

[Jason Warfield]

What a load of hypocritical crap.

And yes, I watched the whole stupid thing.

Basically, he preaches for free markets...yet won't acknowledge that markets evolve when products and services evolve, creating new markets and profits.

He preaches to stick with finite fuel sources because they are cheap...not understanding that if you stagnate the energy market, you create a market that will grow more expensive as you use more and more finite fuel sources and gives no clue as to what to do when demand exceeds supply and it will.

He preaches that those opposed to his ideas will do so by indoctrinating students...yet that is EXACTLY what he wants to happen to keep people buying into a stagnant economy and market!!!!

He is preaching the stagnation of our markets: he is preaching that a free market means to ignore economic evolution....which is the antithesis of a free market!!!!!!!!!!!

What a ****ing bonehead!!!

 

[yankintx]

The failure of Democratic Party policies are on full display in every major city in America.

The results of these policies are:

Continuing generational poverty
Gang activity
Violent crime
Property Crime
Drug addiction
Homelessness
Trash, filth, and grafitti
Urine and feces in front of businesses
No parks for families
War on police

If you want America to fail, keep voting for Democrats.

You must be hankering for the Trump years, when none of these problems existed.

 

[SMTA]

Wallnau says that in May Trump's enemies will start dying.

So you necroed an old thread in order to post a really, really stupid video.

 

[notquiteright]

IF I wanted America to fail, I would have voted for the extreme left's progressive nightmare.

I would opine that some on the Rabid Right think is a nightmare a majority of Americans see as leading to a better tomorrow...