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Idiotic Environmental Predictions

You can't make this stuff up:

Plant physiology will be major contributor to future river flooding - NSF
By hoarding water underground, vegetation will help saturate soil, boosting rain runoff

"Plants get more water-efficient and leak less underground soil moisture through their
pores in a carbon-rich atmosphere," said study co-author Mike Pritchard of UCI. "Add
this up over billions of leaves in very sunlit, leafy places, especially the tropics, and it
means there is a bunch more soil moisture stored up underground, so much so that
climate models predict rainfall events will saturate the ground and more rain will run
into rivers.
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The National Science Foundation (NSF) is a United States government agency...Wikipedia
I really don't want to believe that my tax dollars are supporting this sort of nonsense.
This is the sort of stuff I expect from some looney tune left-wing think tank.

The point that plants will be massively more productive with higher CO2 levels will make those plants less desperate to draw water into their leaves as they can close their stomata and get on with growing without pumping as much water into the air.

Which will reduce the rain fall.....

Which will reduce the flooding....

But that will reduce the grant.... best not take it to the logical conclusion... just stop after the reduction in water being pumped into the air......
 
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Theyre neo-luddites who want to bring humanity back to the Stone Age.
 
How many years of failing predictions, does it require, before people notice the scare tactics? Abbreviated quotes list of environmental failed predictions:

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-apocalyptic Predictions
Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions | Competitive Enterprise Institute

1. Scientist James P. Lodge Jr. in 1970 predicted a new ice age in the first third of 21st century.

2. Dr. S. I. Rasool of NASA in 1971 said that: In the next 50 years the fine dust man constantly put into the atmosphere by fossil fuel burning could screen out so much sun light that the average temperature could drop by 6 degrees. Such a temperature decrease could be sufficient to trigger and ice age.

3. The Guardian reported in January 1974, “Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast.”

4. The climate scientist Stephen Schneider in 1976 in his book “The Genesis Strategy” wrote about how to prepare for lower food production caused by global cooling. Some years later Schneider became a leading advocate of global warming alarmism.

5. In 1978 an international team of specialists finds no end in sight to 30 year cooling trend.

6. James Hansen of NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies beginning in 1988 predicted major droughts and up to six feet of sea level rise in the 1990s. The last dry year was 1988, and recent years have been record wet.

7. In 1988 the Environmental Affairs Director, Hussein Shihab, said an estimate rise of 20 to 30 centimeters (8 to 12 inches) in the next 20 to 30 years could be catastrophic for most of the Maldives islands.

8. In 1989 a senior UN environmental official said that entire nations could be wipe from the face of the earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reverse by the year 2000.

9. In 200, According to Dr. David Viner, a senior research at the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, within a few years winter snowfall will become a very rear event.

10. In 2008, again James Hansen of NASA said, “We see a tipping point occurring right before our eyes. The artic is the first tipping point and it is occurring exactly the way we said it would.”

11. On December 2008, Al Gore predicted that the North Pole Ice Cap would be completely ice free in five years.

12. On 2013, n US Department of Energy-backed research project led by a US Navy scientist predicted that the Artic could lose its summer sea ice as early as 2016.
None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. These people try to pass their predictions, which have proven to be wrong, as absolute truth.
 
There is a well-funded and well-orchestrated disinformation campaign about the reality and severity of human cause climate change by activists, politicians, lawyers, academics and journalists to mislead the American people in order to get what they want by ideological reasons. Leftists and hard-core environmentalists need a "crisis" in order to get their anti-capitalist agenda to go forward.
 
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I think we can safely predict that there will be a mass extinction of AGW proponents long before 2100, as the concept ans scare tactics
would have long since run it's course.
The current panic, is an attempt to get some of the political changes on the books, before the concept runs out of steam!
 
The Right Climate Stuff
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The phrase "Climate Change", currently used by politicians and popular media, has been a politically driven evolutionary change from the more specific scientific phrase "Anthropogenic (Human-Caused) Global Warming" (AGW).

The phrase has become political shorthand for the theorized worst case effects of the increasing atmospheric CO2 and other Greenhouse Gas (GHG) levels during the Industrial Age, believed to be caused primarily from the use of fossil fuels to provide the energy for the industrialized world. These GHG concentrations in our

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atmosphere (other than the strong naturally occurring GHG provided by water vapor) will always be at trace gas levels, though much less than at previous times of our planet. The theorized worst case effects are predicted by un-validated climate simulation models whose alarming projections have not been supported by the actual data observed so far.

We, a group of retired and highly experienced engineers and scientists from the Apollo, Skylab, Space Shuttle and International Space Station eras, have volunteered our time and effort conducting an objective, independent assessment of the AGW alarm and reality of the actual threat. We have reviewed hundreds of reports and technical papers relevant to the subject matter, and discussed key issues with experts on both sides of this controversy.
Click link above for full article.
This outstanding site has a wealth of information about climate change, put together by a retired team of highly experienced engineers and scientists from NASA, discuss the main subjects with specialist from both side of the issue. The navigation panel on the left provide myriad of information from Educational to Conclusion and Recommendations. I highly recommend it to everyone seriously interested in climate change.
 
This outstanding site has a wealth of information about climate change, put together by a retired team of highly experienced engineers and scientists from NASA, discuss the main subjects with specialist from both side of the issue. The navigation panel on the left provide myriad of information from Educational to Conclusion and Recommendations. I highly recommend it to everyone seriously interested in climate change.

Thanks.
 
How many years of failing predictions, does it require, before people notice the scare tactics? Abbreviated quotes list of environmental failed predictions:


None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. These people try to pass their predictions, which have proven to be wrong, as absolute truth.


Keep posting crap, and the rest of us will pay attention to the science.


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Keep posting crap, and the rest of us will pay attention to the science.


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Berkeley Earth is trash as they adjusted away the entire cooling period from the 1940's to the 1970's.

That their baseline is from he he... ha ha... 1850-1900.... bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

No link either......

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Berkeley Earth is trash as they adjusted away the entire cooling period from the 1940's to the 1970's.

That their baseline is from he he... ha ha... 1850-1900.... bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

No link either......

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The food there is terrible- and such small portions!

Go back to your denier sires where you can follow the conversation.
 
The food there is terrible- and such small portions!

Go back to your denier sires where you can follow the conversation.

Another dead on arrival comment from goofboy.

Since you didn't offer a counterpoint, my comment stands as it is.

Cheers.
 
A report of The Right Climate Stuff Research Team on November 30, 2o16, in the abstract says
The power and uniqueness of our approach is that the measured data reflects the results of the actions and interactions of the numerous climate forcing functions which have confounded attempts to solve this complex problem by use of computerized climate models for the last 37 years. We believe our analysis has the same quality of accuracy as many of the analyses we performed for manned space flights during the Apollo program.

TRCS Motto: “In God we trust, all others bring data"

It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Richard Feynman 1918-1988.
In other words, anyone shall be able to back up their theory with data. If you do not have evidence to prove your point, then bring data that prove it.
 
Excellent video (15 minutes only) about the global warming prediction, explaining why the TRCS team has challenged the climate science consensus.

Climate Alarmists Are A Threat To Our National Security

 
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WOW! One could almost show a correlation between global temperature and increases in rice yields!
 
Dr. John Dale Dunn is a practicing physician and a civilian emergency medicine faculty physician at Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center in Fort Hood Texas since 2003. He is also a policy advisor for the Heartland Institute and the American Council on Science and Health (ACSH). From 1989 to 1995 he was an instructor on environmental law at Howard Payne University, in Brownwood, Texas from 1989 - 1995.

With respect to climate change he says “I assert that warm is good for human health and that global warming, even the most extreme estimates, will not create heat illness or death increases and certainly no changes that are more important than the basic public health measures of vector control, water, nutrition, sewage and water quality, and housing quality.”

In this video he explain why a warmer planet is beneficial to humans.

A WARMER PLANET IS BENEFICIAL TO HUMANS AND THE BIOSPHERE

Dr. John Dale Dunn

7. A WARMER PLANET IS BENEFICIAL TO HUMANS AND THE BIOSPHERE Dr. John Dale Dunn on Vimeo
 
Dr. John Dale Dunn is a practicing physician and a civilian emergency medicine faculty physician at Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center in Fort Hood Texas since 2003. He is also a policy advisor for the Heartland Institute and the American Council on Science and Health (ACSH). From 1989 to 1995 he was an instructor on environmental law at Howard Payne University, in Brownwood, Texas from 1989 - 1995.

With respect to climate change he says “I assert that warm is good for human health and that global warming, even the most extreme estimates, will not create heat illness or death increases and certainly no changes that are more important than the basic public health measures of vector control, water, nutrition, sewage and water quality, and housing quality.”

In this video he explain why a warmer planet is beneficial to humans.

A WARMER PLANET IS BENEFICIAL TO HUMANS AND THE BIOSPHERE

Dr. John Dale Dunn

7. A WARMER PLANET IS BENEFICIAL TO HUMANS AND THE BIOSPHERE Dr. John Dale Dunn on Vimeo
Some of the global warming benefits include: lower energy cost; lower winter deaths and increase in harvest output. More land will be suitable for agriculture and food output would increase, supplying the global demand for food due to population increase, avoiding famine.

The planet Earth is self-regulating. Warming and cooling are natural cycles of the planet. Global warming, now the so call “manmade climate change”, has never been about truth but about control. It's an irresistible and enormous power grab by governments.
 
[h=2]“Drought-Stricken” Germany Sees 2nd Rainiest February On Record…Doom And Gloom Cancelled Again[/h]By P Gosselin on 6. March 2020
The last two summers in Germany (2018 and 2019) were unusually dry and warm, and already alarmists began to screaming that this was just a preview of what’s in store for Europe’s crispy burnt future.
The following 2 charts show the ground moisture for Germany last September. The left image depicts the ground moisture at the depth of 25 cm, and the image on the right for a depth of 1.8 meters:
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German indeed was unusually dry last September. Source: The drought monitor; Helmholtz Center for Environmental Research (UFZ)
February 2020 second wettest since records began
But the precipitation pendulum has swung to the other side. The German DWD national weather service now reports that February 2020 was the second wettest since records began. Only 1946 was wetter. Last month some parts of Germany saw rainfall that was double of what is normal.

In some regions it was even the wettest February, e.g. in Lower Saxony, Hamburg and Schleswig Holstein. The reason was a series of lows from the Atlantic moving directly over Germany.

Ground in many areas now over-saturated
Now the ground is well soaked down to the middle and deeper layers. In some parts of Lower Bavaria and parts of eastern Germany, however, there is still dryness in some places at a depth of just under 2 metres. Yet, the situation is expected to ease there as well.

Currently much of Germany is over-saturated for the 0-60 cm ground depth:

More precipitation ahead
Moreover the 14-day forecast for Germany sees more precipitation ahead, which will further saturate the ground. Last year at this time, in the wake of the dry 2018 summer, the ground was much drier. So this year ground moisture levels will be in much better shape as summer approaches.
So, all the doom and gloom scenarios of severe drought and crop failures being the future of Germany have suddenly been washed away. Alarmists will have to go elsewhere to chase climate ambulances.
 
So far there isn’t enough solid evidence that global warming is caused by human activity, in order to justify the large spending that Progressives are pushing ahead. As far as I know there isn’t a single computer model prediction from ten to twenty years ago that has been fulfill. Correlation does not imply causation. It is considered a questionable fallacy that two events occurring together would have a cause and effect relationship between cause and effect, like in the short term regarding global warming and human activity.

The facts seem to point to the conclusion that man can only make semi informed guesses about the future climate changes. If is warmer than normal it's Climate Change. If it's colder than normal it's Climate Change. This has many advantages over Global Warming since temperatures going down are also change. Climate Change is a progressive money making hoax.
 
So far there isn’t enough solid evidence that global warming is caused by human activity, in order to justify the large spending that Progressives are pushing ahead. As far as I know there isn’t a single computer model prediction from ten to twenty years ago that has been fulfill. Correlation does not imply causation. It is considered a questionable fallacy that two events occurring together would have a cause and effect relationship between cause and effect, like in the short term regarding global warming and human activity.

The facts seem to point to the conclusion that man can only make semi informed guesses about the future climate changes. If is warmer than normal it's Climate Change. If it's colder than normal it's Climate Change. This has many advantages over Global Warming since temperatures going down are also change. Climate Change is a progressive money making hoax.

A Fantastically uninformed and stupid argument.

It’s like you put a bunch of denier statements in a blender and hit ‘purée’

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A Fantastically uninformed and stupid argument.

It’s like you put a bunch of denier statements in a blender and hit ‘purée’

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U.S. House Committee on Science, Space & Technology 2 Feb 2016 Testimony of John R. Christy University of Alabama in Huntsville.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/SY/SY00/20160202/104399/HHRG-114-SY00-Wstate-ChristyJ-20160202.pdf

I shall begin with a discussion that was precipitated by an increasingly active campaign of negative assertions made against the observations, i.e. the data, of upper air temperatures. Figure 1 in particular has drawn considerable attention from those who view the climate system as undergoing a rapid, human-caused transformation into a climate to which people would have great difficulty adapting. This simple chart tells the story that the average model projection, on which their fears (or hopes?) are based, does poorly for the fundamental temperature metric that is allegedly the most responsive to extra greenhouse gases - the bulk atmospheric temperature of the layer from the surface to 50,000ft. [The layer shown is known as the mid-troposphere or MT and is used because it overlaps with the region of the tropical atmosphere that has the largest anticipated signature of the greenhouse response by bulk mass – between 20,000 and 50,000 feet.] The chart indicates that the theory of how climate changes occur, and the associated impact of extra greenhouse gases, is not understood well enough to even reproduce the past climate [much more in section (2)]. Indeed, the models clearly overcook the atmosphere. The issue for congress here is that such demonstrably deficient model projections are being used to make policy.

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Because this result challenges the current theory of greenhouse warming in relatively straightforward fashion, there have been several well‐funded attacks on those of us who build and use such datasets and on the datasets themselves. As a climate scientist I’ve found myself, along with fellow like‐minded colleagues, tossed into a world more closely associated with character assassination and misdirection, found in Washington politics for example, rather than objective, dispassionate discourse commonly assumed for the scientific endeavor. Investigations of us by congress and the media are spurred by the idea that anyone who disagrees with the climate establishment’s view of dangerous climate change must be on the payroll of scurrilous organizations or otherwise mentally deficient. Also thrust into this milieu is promotional material, i.e., propaganda, attempting to discredit these data (and researchers) with claims that amount to nothing.


J.R. Christy 2 Feb 2016 House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.
Click link above for full article.
A highly informative presentation. Progressives and their allies in the liberal media will not give up until they have no other option. “Global warming” is a political ploy they use to gain power and wealth. Facts are beginning to prevail against their organize campaign of misinformation, and they will not be able to accomplish their purpose.
 
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