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Idiotic Environmental Predictions

flogger said:
Prove it using empirically established data ? Heads up climate models arent it :rolleyes:
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There is a bunch of empirical data in the latest IPCC report. Too bad you are unwilling to read it. Or are you just incapable of understanding it?
 
Buzz said:
There is a bunch of empirical data in the latest IPCC report. Too bad you are unwilling to read it. Or are you just incapable of understanding it?
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Prove it by citing it then ..... I dare you ? ;)

Heads up the IPCC is a political body not a scientific one
 
flogger said:
Prove it by citing it then ..... I dare you ?
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You need to read chapter 7. Especially section 7.3.3.1.1 "Observation-based lines of evidence".
flogger said:
Heads up the IPCC is a political body not a scientific one
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The IPCC reports are written by climate scientists. Not politicians.
 
Buzz said:
There is a bunch of empirical data in the latest IPCC report. Too bad you are unwilling to read it. Or are you just incapable of understanding it?
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So show me scientifically what global apocalypse this political entity wants me to believe ..... go on I dare you to cite that doomsday within published literature ? ;)
 
flogger said:
So show me scientifically what global apocalypse this political entity wants me to believe ..... go on I dare you to cite that doomsday within published literature ? ;)
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Denier talking point.
 
Buzz said:
Oh Boy!! It's another completely idiotic video from that friggin moron Tony Heller.

So.... he starts out with what looks like a tweet about a climate scientist with just one quote from her. And then to refute what she says he gives a graphic of sea surface temps from just one day. And anyone who knows anything about science knows that one day temps don't prove or disprove anything. Then he shows a plot of cyclone tracks from the past that in no way proves the scientist's predictions wrong. And then makes a big deal about some past winter storms that also don't prove or disprove anything. Hell... he doesn't make a single real argument that actually comes close to refuting what the scientist is predicting.
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In the last 75 years none of the predictions of the prophets of doom have come to pass. But the indoctrination by the Lefties of millions of young people in the school system have deceive them to believe this nonsense. Most of these predictions have come from the Left, with the object to scare people and adopt their socialist agenda.
 
Sandokan said:
In the last 75 years none of the predictions of the prophets of doom have come to pass. But the indoctrination by the Lefties of millions of young people in the school system have deceive them to believe this nonsense. Most of these predictions have come from the Left, with the object to scare people and adopt their socialist agenda.
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Really? So all the predictions of the planet warming are wrong? Well... I hate to break it to you but the planet has been warming drastically.

Tony Heller has got you brainwashed bad!!
 
Buzz said:
Really? So all the predictions of the planet warming are wrong? Well... I hate to break it to you but the planet has been warming drastically.

Tony Heller has got you brainwashed bad!!
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Prove it, otherwise you would be the “brainwashed bad!!”
 
1908 : “Why the Popular Belief in Climatic Changes is Untrustworthy” | Real Climate Science
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Posted on October 31, 2021 by tonyheller

“Why the Popular Belief in Climatic Changes is Untrustworthy.

Why is the popular belief in a change of climate so widespread and so firmly fixed, when instrumental records all go to show that this belief is erroneous? It is not easy to answer this question satisfactorily, but several possible explanations may be given. The trouble arises chiefly from the fact that we place absolute trust in our memories, and attempt to judge such subtle things as climatic changes on the basis of these memories, which are at best short, defective, and in the highest degree untrustworthy.”

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Climate : considered especially in relation to man 1908
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Robert de Courcy Ward, the author of the book Climate considered especially in relation to man, was an assistance professor of Climatology in Harvard University. Excellent book about climatology from ancient times to the present. He writes, “Human memories are very untrustworthy, and there are many reason for theirs been particularly untrustworthy in matters of this kind. The only answer of real value must be based on what the instrumental records of temperature, and of rain and snowfall show”, and finish his book with this statement, Finally, it is clear that man, by flooding a desert or by draining a swamp, can produce no important or extended modifications of natural control. This is governed by factors beyond human control.”
 
Sandokan said:
Another excellent video by Tony Heller about global warming. Heller says: “In 1989, the United Nations said we only had until the year 2000 to stop global warming. But now they have granted the planet an additional fifty years.” He is great at providing real facts. I am very happy that the world has until 2052 to stop global warming again, since the previous stops on 2000 and 2016 did not materialized, and the 2030 “the end is near” has been canceled by the new UN forecast. No problem, the climate alarmist will keep resetting the year that the world has to stop global warming.
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Yup. And now the same people are back in power and back in hurry up mode, as per Press Sec. Peppermint Patty. The whipsaw is just incredible.
 
In all this climate doomsday predicting stuff, there's never a mention as to how adaptable humans are to changing conditions.

If there's one lesson to take from the Earth's long history of change, it is that even primitive humans were able to adapt to those climate changes and even flourish. Modern, technologically advanced humans, are even far more so.

Yet this aspect is never discussed, never mentioned, never even considered.
Now why is that?
 
eohrnberger said:
In all this climate doomsday predicting stuff, there's never a mention as to how adaptable humans are to changing conditions.

If there's one lesson to take from the Earth's long history of change, it is that even primitive humans were able to adapt to those climate changes and even flourish. Modern, technologically advanced humans, are even far more so.

Yet this aspect is never discussed, never mentioned, never even considered.
Now why is that?
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Weird how one entire section of the IPCC is entitled ‘adaptations and mitigation’ and describes exactly what you are saying.

Gee. It’s almost like you’re talking out your ass without a clue.
 
Sandokan said:
Robert de Courcy Ward, the author of the book Climate considered especially in relation to man, was an assistance professor of Climatology in Harvard University. Excellent book about climatology from ancient times to the present. He writes, “Human memories are very untrustworthy, and there are many reason for theirs been particularly untrustworthy in matters of this kind. The only answer of real value must be based on what the instrumental records of temperature, and of rain and snowfall show”, and finish his book with this statement, Finally, it is clear that man, by flooding a desert or by draining a swamp, can produce no important or extended modifications of natural control. This is governed by factors beyond human control.”
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So... you think 1908 is the present?

:ROFLMAO:

Looks to me like Tony Heller has you very confused.
 
Buzz said:
Why don't you show us? Oh... that's right... you are all talk and no proof.
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Quote me anywhere within the IPCC report that claims we are headed for climate catastrophe ?

That actually gives you quite some latitude given the IPCC is in actuality a political body and not a scientific one

In much of the western world we've got rid of god but we certainly have not gotten rid of a need for religion as current climate change dogma bears witness
 
flogger said:
In much of the western world we've got rid of god but we certainly have not gotten rid of a need for religion as current climate change dogma bears witness
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This is always an interesting label to be attached to otherwise cut and dried science. It's usually what Creationists claim about Evolution.
 
mar_cline said:
This is always an interesting label to be attached to otherwise cut and dried science. It's usually what Creationists claim about Evolution.
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The idea of catastrophic AGW, is much more a belief, than a scientific fact!
The idea of the amplified feedbacks cannot be tested or validated in any scientific manner!
 
longview said:
The idea of catastrophic AGW, is much more a belief, than a scientific fact!
The idea of the amplified feedbacks cannot be tested or validated in any scientific manner!
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Again with your primitive “science is only done in the lab” thinking. Science wouldn’t get very far if you were in charge. AGW concepts can indeed be “validated” with the research and data of mainstream climate scientists. But I suppose that a chat forum “scientist” doesn’t understand that.
 
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