ICE arrests NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander.

[Moon]

They even offered to show him the warrant. But all he really wanted was a photo op for his flailing campaign.

I wonder if the fundraising email has already gone out.

 

[j brown's body]

They even offered to show him the warrant. But all he really wanted was a photo op for his flailing campaign.

Piss on them.

They're a disgrace to the country.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

No, the chief judge did not say that

Yep, he did.

He said that an administrative warrant, despite lacking a judge's signature, can be used to make arrests in a public hallway. However, he added that "a judicial warrant has more authority in going into private areas."

Chief Judge Carl Ashley says federal agents have leeway to enforce immigration in courthouse

Asked to comment on the arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan, Ashley said the county faces "limitations on what we can do" to limit ICE access.

www.jsonline.com

 

[Pyrite]

I wonder if the fundraising email has already gone out.

So far, the ICE goons haven't been arrested and detained.

So, no need for MAGA to rush to contribute money.

(BTW: should the law ever catch up to trump and ICE, raising funds for these "victims" will be a priority of the rabid-right. Be aware, though, that scammers, too, will be looking to persuade MAGA members to part with their money.)

 

[CaughtInThe]

DEMOCRATS. BRING IN THE DAMN BEEF (BODYGUARDS)!!!!

Stop looking weak. Meet fascist strength with (legal) strength. Stop *****footing around and make Trump's masked Gestapo go through large men (security) who know what's legal and what's not.

We have ALL of human history that tells us what fascism brings to children. Stop them (legally) now.

 

[Pyrite]

It is obstruction to physically - and forcibly - prevent them from carrying out their duties.

Apparently, the law has been rewritten so that walking with someone can now be construed to mean "obstruction".

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Jagged]

Post #63


You're on the road to proving your claim the ICE agents have the legal right to arrest, detain, and "refer for prosecution" AMERICAN CITIZENS.

What you have to do now: read your cites, then copy and paste the excerpts you believe confirm the above claims.

He's not, really. All his links show is that that obstructing ICE agents is a crime. They don't show ICE agents can arrest a U.S. citizen for obstructing them. ICE agents are not authorized to knowingly arrest U.S. citizens.

 

[Moon]

So far, the ICE goons haven't been arrested and detained.

So, no need for MAGA to rush to contribute money.

(BTW: should the law ever catch up to trump and ICE, raising funds for these "victims" will be a priority of the rabid-right. Be aware, though, that scammers, too, will be looking to persuade MAGA members to part with their money.)

I think you misunderstood my post.

 

[Pyrite]

Post #63


You're on the road to proving your claim the ICE agents have the legal right to arrest, detain, and "refer for prosecution" AMERICAN CITIZENS.

What you have to do now: read your cites, then copy and paste the excerpts you believe confirm the above claims.

He's not, really. All his links show is that that obstructing ICE agents is a crime. They don't show ICE agents can arrest a person for obstructing them. ICE agents are not authorized to knowingly arrest U.S. citizens.

Post #158


Good grief, I give @Lutherf partial credit for bringing here a link that has something to do with his claim that ICE agents have the legal right to arrest, detain, and "refer for prosecution" AMERICAN CITIZENS" - but it turns out I gave him too much credit.

Great catch, @Jagged. And thanks, too, for pointing this out.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[CaughtInThe]

CBS News...





Fox News. They are genius. The rubes don't have a chance...

 

[Pyrite]

Here's a scary thought. With exhibitions of violence, Hitler's popularity improved.

Yep.

There are far too many people who want to see exhibitions of brute power and force, who want "authorities" to control and to punish those who are marginalized and those who question and/or oppose such extreme authoritarianism.

 

[Lutherf]

Post #63


You're on the road to proving your claim the ICE agents have the legal right to arrest, detain, and "refer for prosecution" AMERICAN CITIZENS.

What you have to do now: read your cites, then copy and paste the excerpts you believe confirm the above claims.

Post #35


Brad Lander is a citizen. ICE arrested Brad Lander.

You seem to be really confused about this.

ICE agents are federal law enforcement. As such they have arrest authority for pretty much any federal crime. While their jurisdiction is primarily immigration enforcement that DOES NOT preclude them from making an arrest of anyone, citizen or not, that interferes with their operations.

 

[Pyrite]

Where are the ministers and the pastors and our churches?

Either cheering trump and his goons or cowering in their pulpits.

This afternoon on NPR there was brief story about an evangelical Presbyterian pastor who issued a call for "conversation" with trump and other authorities about Federal aggression against migrants. It looks as if even this very mild stand is the exception in the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA).

 

[bomberfox]

If you see a masked ice agent put out all information you can about them including doxxing.

 

[Deuce]

He was latched on to the guy ICE was trying to collect!

Did someone get away? Was an ICE agent harmed?

 

[Deuce]

That’s where Judge Kegan screwed up during her arrest. She said administrative warrants are no good and ice needed a judicial warrant. The Chief Judge said otherwise.

That's not what the judge said, no.

Elementary school civics question: in which branch of government does the authority to issue arrest warrants lie?

 

[Pyrite]

You seem to be really confused about this.

ICE agents are federal law enforcement. As such they have arrest authority for pretty much any federal crime. While their jurisdiction is primarily immigration enforcement that DOES NOT preclude them from making an arrest of anyone, citizen or not, that interferes with their operations.

You seem not to believe I've asked you to corroborate your claims. Or you just don't want to go to that trouble.

What's most likely: you cannot corroborate your claims - including the most recent ones, here in your Post #164.

What we're left with: your claims reflect nothing but what you want to be true.

 

[ClaraD]

Yep, he did.

He said that an administrative warrant, despite lacking a judge's signature, can be used to make arrests in a public hallway. However, he added that "a judicial warrant has more authority in going into private areas."

Chief Judge Carl Ashley says federal agents have leeway to enforce immigration in courthouse

Asked to comment on the arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan, Ashley said the county faces "limitations on what we can do" to limit ICE access.

www.jsonline.com

He wasn’t in a public hallway. He was in her court room when they arrived. He also said they had not established policies on what they would require. ICE can make an arrest in public based on reasonable suspicion without the ‘administrative’ anything.
So, considering he was in her court they needed a judicial warrant

 

[Pyrite]

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Trump has turned us into one of his "shithole" countries.

And MAGA applauds.

 

[Lutherf]

You seem not to believe I've asked you to corroborate your claims. Or you just don't want to go to that trouble.

What's most likely: you cannot corroborate your claims - including the most recent ones, here in your Post #164.

What we're left with: your claims reflect nothing but what you want to be true.

You want me to prove that ICE is federal law enforcement? I mean, if that's really what you need then you can look it up yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement

If you want to dig into the nuts and bolts the definition of "immigration officer" can be found in 8 CFR 1.2. The duties of immigration officers are found in 8 CFR 287.5

 

[VySky]

ICE arrested a US citizen in an immigration court.

That US citizen is the NYC comptroller and mayoral candidate.

Reports are also that Lander’s NYPD security was also arrested.

This is a reminder that ICE has no authority over US citizens.

If they don’t want to look like the gestapo… they should stop doing gestapo like things.

NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander arrested, released by ICE

Lander said he remains committed to showing up for immigrant families in court and encouraged peaceful protest.

www.fox5ny.com

I guess not even New Yorkers are stupid enough to elect this moron.

What an a$$hat.

 

[VySky]

They had no warrant and this had no right to unlawfully detain a US citizen

And the result is?

Two dipchits got arrested.

 

[Lutherf]

And the result is?

Two dipchits got arrested.

It's what happens when people "know" the stuff in their own head but are ignorant of stuff in the real world.