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ICE agents denied entry to Dodger Stadium

snakestretcher said:
Immigration laws include Constitutional protections and due process. Your government is acting illegally and unconstitutionally by deporting those people without them having had access to legal representation as the law requires. Then again when did convicted felon Trump ever give a damn about the law?
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No, they are not acting illegally. That's just you blowing smoke.
 
NatMorton said:
No, they are not acting illegally. That's just you blowing smoke.
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If they are acting contrary to the Constitution which you Americans hold so dear, they are absolutely breaking the law. Why does something so simple need explaining, again and again? Good grief!
 
snakestretcher said:
If they are acting contrary to the Constitution which you Americans hold so dear, they are absolutely breaking the law. Why does something so simple need explaining, again and again? Good grief!
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There are parts of the Constitution you simply are unaware of or do not understand. The Constitution grants Congress the authority over naturalization matters, and the due process afforded aliens is limited.
The Supreme Court, however, has suggested that the extent of due process for aliens present in the United States may vary depending upon [the alien’s] status and circumstance. For instance, at times the Court has indicated that at least some of the constitutional protections to which an alien is entitled may turn upon whether the alien has been admitted into the United States or developed substantial ties to this country.
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Source: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt5-6-2-3/ALDE_00013726/


Certain non-U.S. nationals (aliens) who lack authorization to enter the United States are subject to a
streamlined “expedited removal” process, which affords fewer procedural protections to the alien than
standard removal proceedings and typically results in the quicker expulsion of the alien from the United
States.
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Source: https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/LSB/PDF/LSB10510/LSB10510.1.pdf

If you're going to try to lecture people on the US Constitution, you might want to learn more about it, first.
 
NatMorton said:
There are parts of the Constitution you simply are unaware of or do not understand. The Constitution grants Congress the authority over naturalization matters, and the due process afforded aliens is limited.

Source: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt5-6-2-3/ALDE_00013726/



Source: https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/LSB/PDF/LSB10510/LSB10510.1.pdf

If you're going to try to lecture people on the US Constitution, you might want to learn more about it, first.
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Good try. Your link states clearly that undocumented migrants are still entitled to due process.
 
snakestretcher said:
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Um, that's the cite I already posted. Didn't you both to read it either time? There are these words (emphasis added):
The Supreme Court, however, has suggested that the extent of due process for aliens present in the United States may vary depending upon [the alien’s] status and circumstance.4 For instance, at times the Court has indicated that at least some of the constitutional protections to which an alien is entitled may turn upon whether the alien has been admitted into the United States or developed substantial ties to this country.5 Thus, there is some uncertainty regarding the extent to which due process considerations constrain Congress’s exercise of its immigration power with respect to aliens within the United States.
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This fully supports my assertion illegal immigrants do not enjoy the same due process rights as US citizens.

Suggest you give it a rest. You're doing yourself no favors.
 
NatMorton said:
Um, that's the cite I already posted. Didn't you both to read it either time? There are these words (emphasis added):


This fully supports my assertion illegal immigrants do not enjoy the same due process rights as US citizens.

Suggest you give it a rest. You're doing yourself no favors.
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Read my edited post.
 
NatMorton said:
So what? They're not US citizens and do not enjoy the rights of US citizens.
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The US constitution protects everyone in the US.
Even me if I'm on holiday in the US.
They have the right to due process.
 
Peter said:
The US constitution protects everyone in the US.
Even me if I'm on holiday in the US.
They have the right to due process.
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This is the right’s march towards defining who gets to remain Americans in addition who gets to be Americans. Remember these are the same conservatives who insist 2A is a “God given right that no man can take away” while also telling us constitutional rights are fungible. The translation guide goes like this: now that migrants no longer look like their grandparents, they’re illegal and criminals.
 
The Brad Dad said:
This is the right’s march towards defining who gets to remain Americans in addition who gets to be Americans. Remember these are the same conservatives who insist 2A is a “God given right that no man can take away” while also telling us constitutional rights are fungible. The translation guide goes like this: now that migrants no longer look like their grandparents, they’re illegal and criminals.
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This is irrelevant to the discussion.
 
NatMorton said:
Yes, I've seen that before. Godwin becomes a victim of his own law. Rather amusing.
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Trump’s regime has declared he’s going to attempt Reichstag fires across the country as we saw in L.A. He even stated his regime is creating an office of remigration, which is purely the stuff of nazi garbage. The flopsweat the right produces to “prove” Trump super isn’t a Nazi is rather amusing.
 
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