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I was refused a firearm and I have no felonies, am not a terrorist, no domestic violence, no convictions for anything since I was eighteen.

We talking private market vs 'visible' online 'seller' sale? Two different things.

Through a site; rules...

Private sale, without doing your homework, leaves someone else with a firearm registered to you.

I would not sell a firearm to anyone without transfer of ownership.

Hell, I didn't even let my own cousin drive my old van I sold to him out of the drive until he came back with his plate on it.

It's out of my hands, and now yours....
OK, I agree with you. MOST folks I know buy their firearms legally for all of the obvious reason. I bought 2 glocks from county sponsored gun shows with highly legitimate dealers. I've also bought a glock from someone with ligitimate papers on a cleared weapon.

It's all about the legality. If you're "legal" to own a weapon, it's not an issue. ;)
If you buy a gun from a private sale and you are a prohibited person under Federal Law, then you are violating Federal Law. Every gun seller on the internet is going to follow Federal Law and ship to an FFL. Unless of course, you are buying guns on the “dark web”.
What part of I'm not a "prohibited person" don't you get???? Never mind...don't give a rat's ass what you think.
 
I hate to say it, but maybe it's because you aren't registered as a F****** douchebag republican? Buy a gun online while you still can.

Which douchebag party is generally concerned with making guns more difficult to procure?
 
OK, I agree with you. MOST folks I know buy their firearms legally for all of the obvious reason. I bought 2 glocks from county sponsored gun shows with highly legitimate dealers. I've also bought a glock from someone with ligitimate papers on a cleared weapon.

It's all about the legality. If you're "legal" to own a weapon, it's not an issue. ;)

What part of I'm not a "prohibited person" don't you get???? Never mind...don't give a rat's ass what you think.

The OP may very well be, since he was denied a purchase at an FFL. I think you're missing that he was seeking further knowledge on this. Telling him "go buy a gun online" is exceptionally bad advice, imo.
 
Which douchebag party is generally concerned with making guns more difficult to procure?
What? As a Democrat I've NEVER hd a problem buying a gun.
 
I hate to say it, but maybe it's because you aren't registered as a F****** douchebag republican? Buy a gun online while you still can.
Very rarely do I see a post that not only shows the poster to be an extreme partisan extremist but also to have no ****ing clue what they are talking about.


Well done. You really out did yourself with this one. And for you that is impressive.
 
You do realize that online gun sales have to be shipped to a local FFL for a NICS check, don’t you? Maybe you should learn the laws before giving potentially illegal advice.
No she doesn’t. She has no idea what she is talking about. As usual

But hey she has her partisan talking points and that is all that matters.
 
You're full of shit. I can buy a gun every minute of everyday on the open market. One just needs to know where to look.
You mean illegally. Tell me, where in the world do you think you can’t buy a gun illegally if you know where to look.

And you also realize that if not what was being talked about right.


Who I am I kidding. Of course you don’t.

But you got your partisan attacks in so that is all that matters
 
No temper here, asshole. What an idiotic response. I could buy any gun from any of many sources....any online or local neighbor period...or from anyone with a gun to sell in a heartbeat. I don't support violating current law enforcement. but I'm NOT a criminal and I still have the right to buy a gun. You creepy bastards who support trump and his regime need to go down hard.
Your poutrage is hilarious.

it’s like watching a 3 year old throw a temper tantrum.
 
What? As a Democrat I've NEVER hd a problem buying a gun.
Which shows just how stupid your claims that the reason he may have been denied is because he is not republican.

It’s funny watching you destroy your own BS.
 
I hate to say it, but maybe it's because you aren't registered as a F****** douchebag republican? Buy a gun online while you still can.

That would be illegal in any case. He was already denied.

He, and the FFL dealer, or other private citizen selling him a firearm could go to jail.
 
No, if a convicted felon wants to move on from his conviction and live out the rest of his life lawfully, he won't get a gun. A conviction says something about a person's past, not necessarily what a person is now or will be 5 or 10 or 20 years from now.
My only other arrest happened over fifty years ago and I'm not eighteen any longer. The shotgun is for home defense and I hope it is never used for that situation.
 
You stole a TV? You admit to growing pot? (got off on a technicality"). I've got a guess or two why you can't get a firearm.
The tv was over fifty years ago. In court I admitted to nothing and so what a technicality, the police knew better and the judge even said so. So, with no convictions, why am I being punished?
 
Yeah, that sounds good and all.

Look man, to borrow a line, don't think that, just because I don't care, means that I don't have feelings. I do. In fact, I feel really bad that I don't care. But.... I don't care.

There are a gazillion people in this world who are not felons. Pardon me if I choose to consort with those kind of people instead of a convicted felon types.

To me, it's like a crackhead. Once a crackhead, always a crackhead. Sure, a convict can rehabilitate and go on to be a contribution to society. I applaud that and I wish them the very best.

But before they were incarcerated and rehabilitated, they were low-life criminals. You don't go to prison for just playing hooky. Do the crime and you get all that goes with it. Can't put toothpaste back into the tube. Too bad, so sad. Go forth. Do good. But your conviction goes with you for the rest of your life, if I had it my way. I know, I know. I'm a dick, right?

Yeah. Well, I don't care.
This misunderstands how the law is applied, how people are brutalized, and who gets deemed a criminal or just a boy-being-a-boy.
 
Yeah, that sounds good and all.

Look man, to borrow a line, don't think that, just because I don't care, means that I don't have feelings. I do. In fact, I feel really bad that I don't care. But.... I don't care.

There are a gazillion people in this world who are not felons. Pardon me if I choose to consort with those kind of people instead of a convicted felon types.

To me, it's like a crackhead. Once a crackhead, always a crackhead. Sure, a convict can rehabilitate and go on to be a contribution to society. I applaud that and I wish them the very best.

But before they were incarcerated and rehabilitated, they were low-life criminals. You don't go to prison for just playing hooky. Do the crime and you get all that goes with it. Can't put toothpaste back into the tube. Too bad, so sad. Go forth. Do good. But your conviction goes with you for the rest of your life, if I had it my way. I know, I know. I'm a dick, right?

Yeah. Well, I don't care.
Trump is a convicted felon and you support him.
 
The OP may very well be, since he was denied a purchase at an FFL. I think you're missing that he was seeking further knowledge on this. Telling him "go buy a gun online" is exceptionally bad advice, imo.
According to the guy behind the counter in Rural King, you don't need anything to buy a firearm in Florida as long as you are a Florida resident and don't take said firearm out of state. My other half just bought a shotgun from RK guns, online. Again, this shotgun is for home defense. The only time it will see any other usage, hopefully, is on a range.
 
According to the guy behind the counter in Rural King, you don't need anything to buy a firearm in Florida as long as you are a Florida resident and don't take said firearm out of state. My other half just bought a shotgun from RK guns, online. Again, this shotgun is for home defense. The only time it will see any other usage, hopefully, is on a range.

I believe the guy behind the counter at Rural King is full of shit.

 
My only other arrest happened over fifty years ago and I'm not eighteen any longer. The shotgun is for home defense and I hope it is never used for that situation.
I got snagged by an administrative error that occurred sometime between buying my first handgun (decades ago) and going during covid to buy a 38.

It probably happened during digitalization, and it took me 18 months and several thousand dollars in attorney fees to fix.

In the interim years I was a TIPS Proctor, a person of record, sold alcohol and tobacco, GM'd a restaurant, a nightclub and grocery store (all involving alcohol sales, which felons are prohibited from doing in my state).

I was denied entry into Canada, although I misunderstood at the time what the reason was, and only a couple of years later pieced together that this was for the same reason, as Canada refuses entry to felons.

To be a trainer for the TIPS program you have to register with the State Police, as you are administering their training. The State Police who would eventually have me flagged as a felon also licensed me to train people in how to properly retail and handle alcohol, which you cannot do as a felon, and for which you will be charged quite possibly with a felony.

I ended having to go to several superior courts, multiple district courts, and a few police stations, as well as ended up on a first name basis with the NHSP officer who made it her mission to help me.

There was zero paperwork anywhere showing me to be a felon, because I am not a felon, and was never tried or convicted of a felony. The one case that precipitated all this was an arrest for very serious charges, including attempted murder, that never made it out of grand jury or even had a finding of probable cause, because it was clearly self defense, as even sworn in affidavit by the alleged victim.

But sometime during digitalization of records, which was done manually, a box was erroneously checked and I was transmuted into a felon. As the NHSP at the time was still working off some paper records, they signed off on me handling alcohol and teaching the safe handling of alcohol.

I write all this, because the process was laborious, and I had to collect every last bit of extant paper to try to prove that I was not a felon, because the system now knew I was one.

And I also needed luck, because the original police department had the box with every bit of paper, was in the process of uploading and then destroying them because it was decades after the case, but hadn't gotten to mine yet. I then had to wait months for an overworked check to hand redact 35 or so pages of the file, because some of the interviewed parties at the time were minors.

But, stuck to the top of the first page was a yellow paper note with the police prosecutor's signature reading "no probable cause", and "grand jury declined to indict". Which was the literal and improbable smoking gun I needed to prove the negative.

But, this isn't about my personal anecdote, to be clear. The extra details matter, because if it is an administrative or digitalization error, prepare yourself for a slog that will not resolve in a timely fashion, dealing almost exclusively with overworked clerks, cops who have no rational cause to care about decades old arrests, courthouse functionaries who want you to be anywhere else but in front of them, and don't mind letting you know it, and institutional inertia.

I hired an expensive, very competent ex-Navy lawyer accustomed to bureaucratic labrynths and got lucky in the person of NHSP Sergeant who gave an actual ****.

Strap in.
 
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