I was in the NYC rally. Is a revolution possible?

[Casper]

You are wrong....Kurmugeon is correct

Please look up the Definition of the Nazi party in Germany in the 30's and 40's.

No I am not, I have been studying German history all my life along with military history, know why, I was Born in Bavaria, Germany and had relatives on both sides of that war, it holds a special interest for me. I know the Nazis well and while they may have had some socialistic ideals they were also Nationalists that held many conservative ideals. So you can claim Mao (Communist) was a leftist mass murderer and you can claim Stalin (Socialist) was a leftist mass murderer and be absolutely correct, but to make that claim of Hitler and the Nazis is inaccurate. Had this argument many times, and in the end you will continue to claim otherwise, I am just telling you that it is factually inaccurate, take it or leave it.

 

[shrubnose]

The 1776Revolutionary War ended up with the formation of the USA.

No revolution launched in the USA now will succeed.The U.S. government has a lot of power.

 

[shrubnose]

Hitler was a National Socialist!

And he and the Nazis were voted into power by the voters in Germany.Read a little history.

 

[jimbo]

Leftists are just going insane on FB and Twitter, :lamo. Poor things. :lol:

Trump needs to console them by building more safe spaces.

 

[shrubnose]

Does this sound "right wing" to you?

Believe it or not-the Nazis fought a war against the Soviet Union.

:lol:

 

[shrubnose]

The

word Socialist confuses you, doesn't it. The Nazis were as much right-wing as left-wing. They are Nationalists, maybe you recognize the word and maybe can see how that can be applied here

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Right.Hitler and the Nazis were National Socialists.

Just like some people in the Alt-Right are White Nationalists.

 

[Mason66]

I was part of the anti-trump rally that started in Union Square last night and ended up at Trump Tower. I saw terror, I saw disbelief and I saw a lot of anger out there. I wanted to share what I saw with you guys and ask whether you think a people driven revolution is something feasible in a country like the U.S.

What do you mean rally?

Why did you use that word?

 

[Hari Seldon]

Every major mass purge murder done by Government in known history has been done by Lefties.

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And we kill puppies!

 

[Hari Seldon]

Are you being sarcastic? I saw Obama hanging by a noose by my sister's house. I saw a lot of things like that.

Selective memory is a wonderful thing. Maybe Alzheimers.

 

[Kurmugeon]

And he and the Nazis were voted into power by the voters in Germany.Read a little history.

Did ever say he wasn't voted into power? Read the posts you're responding to!

The Nazi being voted into power did not change the facts that they were national socialist, nor change the fact that they murdered millions of their own citizens!

Always, the massive murder of a countries own citizens is done by Leftist Governments.

There have been right wing Governments who have murdered small numbers of targeted enemies, but the mass murder always comes from the Lefties.

Its some sort of fatal character flaw in the mindset of those who believe in leftist ideals, they see the ends as justifying any and all means.
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[Kurmugeon]

And we kill puppies!

Sometimes you do...

I seem to remember that the family dog was shot to death by Reno's thugs at Ruby Ridge.

Nobody abuses the power of the state to murder like the Left!

It has been shown over and over and over again to the toll of 10s of Millions of dead innocent citizens!

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[Kurmugeon]

no. a backlash in the next election is, though, if these same people can be bothered to show up and vote.

The Lefties will find it hard to win any future election without the support of the 55% of the electorate which is the Working White Vote.

The Democratic Party has supervised, encouraged, and politically profiteered from 45 years of Anti-White Racial Preference Pandering.

We are organized in our voting now, and the Democratic Party will never again be seen as representing the Working White Voters.

Trump may not turn out to be the solution to all or any of our woes. We may need to seek a 3rd or 4th political party, before we start to see real change and justice.

But the betrayal and abuse of the Democratic Party and the American Political Left has forever driven a wedge between the Democratic Party's Racial Pandering and the Working White People it has abused!

AWVSM!

Never Again!

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[Ahlevah]

Is a revolution feasible in the U.S.? By whom? Clint Eastwood's "***** Generation," people who are so afraid of their own shadows and traumatized by an election that they can't go class? Not likely.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

Believe it or not-the Nazis fought a war against the Soviet Union.

:lol:

For real estate...not idealism. If you'd know your history, the Germans and Russians were actually allied at the beginning of the war.

 

[Kurmugeon]

For real estate...not idealism. If you'd know your history, the Germans and Russians were actually allied at the beginning of the war.

But Hitler was such an ass he couldn't help but attack in every direction at once.

Russia WON WWII for the world. Never think otherwise. Their sacrifices to defeat the Nazi were beyond anything we here in America can imagine!

Thanks the Gods that evil is usually self-defeating.

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[Hypothetical]

The Nazi question is incorrect. authoritarian regimes should not be classed as left or right as they adhere to the principles of neither one. all they are about is power for themselves.

Socialism however is used in most cases by such regimes because collectivism takes a strong central government and therefore it is much easier to seize power once you can convince the people to give you control of the food, industry and the military.

the soviets and Nazis were allied at first, only out of necessity though. they certainly did clash on ideals... mainly the ideal that the other one was a threat to their power structure as they were both authoritatian... but the nazis also thought of those of slavic descent to be inferior.

But Hitler was such an ass he couldn't help but attack in every direction at once.

Russia WON WWII for the world. Never think otherwise. Their sacrifices to defeat the Nazi were beyond anything we here in America can imagine!

Thanks the Gods that evil is usually self-defeating.

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Stalin was as bad a dictator as Hitler, all told. the sacrifice by the russian people was huge though, and they deserve a lot of credit no doubt. whether the outcome would have been the same without lend-lease or the allies, is debatable.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

But Hitler was such an ass he couldn't help but attack in every direction at once.

Maybe, but without the alliance with Russia, Hitler would have never attacked Poland (and agree to split it up with Russia).

Their sacrifices to defeat the Nazi were beyond anything we here in America can imagine!

They were defending their homeland when the Germans went against the alliance. Russia would never have helped the allies had they never been invaded.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Maybe, but without the alliance with Russia, Hitler would have never attacked Poland (and agree to split it up with Russia).


They were defending their homeland when the Germans went against the alliance. Russia would never have helped the allies had they never been invaded.

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT a fan of Stalin. Stalin killed even more Russians than Hitler did!

But I do admire the courage, tenacity, and sacrifice of the noble Russian People in WWII!

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[TurtleDude]

But Hitler was such an ass he couldn't help but attack in every direction at once.

Russia WON WWII for the world. Never think otherwise. Their sacrifices to defeat the Nazi were beyond anything we here in America can imagine!

Thanks the Gods that evil is usually self-defeating.

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well Stalin was willing to join forces with Hitler-and Hitler was too stupid to honor that agreement But its not like Stalin was the great crusader for freedom. Yeah, the second front pretty well doomed the Germans, especially when The Japanese bombed pearl harbor GUARANTEEING the USA was going to join the war. But while I can laud the many brave Russians who died and were wounded or (in many cases) MURDERED by the Nazis, you have to remember Stalin was a major league scumbag and would have been happy to divide up Europe with the Nazis.

if you have to pick history's stupidest strategic Military FU-Hilter invading Russia was probably #1. Japan's sneak attack on the USA was in the top 10-probably right next to the French Calvary charging the English line in Agincourt in the rain-meaning their knights couldn't maneuver and their crossbows wouldn't work because the heavy skeins spanning the prods on the crossbows stretch while wet but the English Longbows worked fine when wet.

 

[late]

The Lefties will find it hard to win any future election without the support of the 55% of the electorate which is the Working White Vote.

Boomers swing Right, Kids swing Left, time is not on your side.

A fact exacerbated by the declining percentage of white voters.

Behind Trump's victory: Divisions by race, gender and education | Pew Research Center

What the election was about is an attempt to lock non-Whites out of power permanently. What it will do is exacerbate the political decline of the American people in favor of the rich.

 

[late]

Hitler was a Right wingnut. The idea that he isn't is farcical.

"The key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create. Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it. Socialism, in contrast, was a class struggle, aiming to build a workers state, whatever race the worker was from."

The article goes on to observe that once Trump, I mean Hitler, got into power, he dropped the rhetoric and got cozy with business.

Extreme goofball territory.

Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? Debunking a Historical Myth

 

[Henrin]

Boomers swing Right, Kids swing Left, time is not on your side.

A fact exacerbated by the declining percentage of white voters.

Behind Trump's victory: Divisions by race, gender and education | Pew Research Center

You do realize that you link only shows 18-29 year old's, right? You do realize that baby boomers had both Generation X and Millennial children, right? You do realize that a good percentage of those children are in their thirties and forties, right? What about them?

And btw, showing voter turn out to attempt to prove general lean of a whole generation is a pretty ****ty argument. It fails completely to realize that a good percentage of those people didn't vote, so you won't get anything from them in the results. It also ignores entirely the reasons someone voted in the way they did and just assumes that D equals left and R equals right. You might as well assume next that voting for Gary Johnson means someone is in fact a libertarian. Your argument sucks on just about every front.

 

[late]

You do realize that you link only shows 18-29 year old's, right? You do realize that baby boomers had both Generation X and Millennial children, right? You do realize that a good percentage of those children are in their thirties and forties, right? What about them?

And btw, showing voter turn out to attempt to prove general lean of a whole generation is a pretty ****ty argument. It fails completely to realize that a good percentage of those people didn't vote, so you won't get anything from them in the results. It also ignores entirely the reasons someone voted in the way they did and just assumes that D equals left and R equals right. You might as well assume next that voting for Gary Johnson means someone is in fact a libertarian. Your argument sucks on just about every front.

I used that particular link because it broke down the recent election.

I may work the problem later, it's the middle of the night here. For now...

The Political Revolution of the Millennial Generation - The Atlantic

 

[Henrin]

I used that particular link because it broke down the recent election.

I may work the problem later, it's the middle of the night here. For now...

The Political Revolution of the Millennial Generation - The Atlantic

Not even going to bother with that link after your last fail. Your last link was even made before the popular vote was all in yet, ffs.

 

[late]

Not even going to bother with that link after your last fail. Your last link was even made before the popular vote was all in yet

"According to a July Wall Street Journal/ABC poll, Americans over 35 were four points more likely to say the government is doing too much than to say it is doing too little. Millennials, meanwhile, by a margin of 23 points, think it’s doing too little. In 2011, Pew found that while the oldest Americans supported repealing health-care reform by 29 percentage points, Millennials favored expanding it by 17 points. They were also 25 points more likely than those 65 and older to approve of Occupy Wall Street and 36 points more favorable toward socialism, which they actually preferred to capitalism, 49 percent to 46 percent. As the Pew report put it, “Millennials, at least so far, hold ‘baked in’ support for a more activist government.”

America Is Becoming More Liberal - The Atlantic