I simply dont understand

[Logical1]

What about the Palestinians who were killed and their homes destroyed?

Blame the terrorist Hamas, they started it.

 

[Logical1]

The situation isn't funny but it is humorous to see @Logical1 "All Lives Matter" out himself that there are lives that don't matter to him.

Well that is true. Terrorist like Hama are the lowest form of humanity.

 

[americanwoman]

Well that is true. Terrorist like Hama are the lowest form of humanity.

So you admit "All" lives don't matter to you or do Hamas lives matter?

 

[j brown's body]

Blame the terrorist Hamas, they started it.

Iran and Israel are both controlled by extremists who find conflict to be a valuable political tool.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

He simply does not understand that.

Can you make a very simple drawing that even a first grader could understand?

Still too complex for the intended audience.

 

[Glitch]

It is not during time of war. Why the falsehood?

Israel has been in a state of war with the Arab League since 1948. Get a clue.

 

[slick]

This whole "you can't have a democracy between different types of people" is something I have seen a lot of conservatives state. I have yet to see sociological data to support it though.

Personally, I do not see why such a thing would not be possible.

From Jamestown 1607 up until the 'Immigration Act of 1965' the immigration laws of this country were written with one
goal, to preserve the European character of this country. From the Irish immigration in the mid 19th century to the election of the first Catholic president a century later this country sought to maintain itself as a nation of European origin.

Why were the huge numbers of immigrants from the 1860's to the 1920's from new factions
from southern & eastern Europe & Ireland successfully integrated into US society, here is why:

'After each wave of immigration there were long periods of little or no immigration
giving time for the Americans to assimilate the newcomers.
Their children passed through deeply patriotic schools where they were
immersed in the language, literature, history & traditions uniquely American.
These were the reasons that the immigrations of that particular era worked.
Far different situation today.

As the melting pot turned millions of children & grand children of European Immigrants into Americans the last
two generations have extended that logic to assert that we can bring in countless more from every country &
culture & color on earth & create a stronger happier & a more united nation than the America of 1960.

But where on earth has such diversity led to anything other than disharmony & chaos.
It's there for all to see racially, culturally, ethnically & politically America is disintigrating.

 

[Slartibartfast]

From Jamestown 1607 up until the 'Immigration Act of 1965' the immigration laws of this country were written with one
goal, to preserve the European character of this country. From the Irish immigration in the mid 19th century to the election of the first Catholic president a century later this country sought to maintain itself as a nation of European origin.

Why were the huge numbers of immigrants from the 1860's to the 1920's from
southern & eastern Europe & Ireland successfully integrated into US society, here is why:

'After each wave of immigration there were long periods of little or no immigration
giving time for the Americans to assimilate the newcomers.
Their children passed through deeply patriotic schools where they were
immersed in the language, literature, history & traditions uniquely American.
These were the reasons that the immigrations of that particular era worked.
Far different situation today.

As the melting pot turned millions of children & grand children of European Immigrants into Americans the last
two generations have extended that logic to assert that we can bring in countless more from every country &
culture & color on earth & create a stronger happier & a more united nation than the America of 1960.

But where on earth has such diversity led to anything other than disharmony & chaos.
It's there for all to see racially, culturally, ethnically & politically America is disintigrating.

Thanks for expanding on it, I would have preferred something more scientific, but we will go with what you presented.

However, to answer your question. Consider England, which was at first celtic, but then have waves of other ethnicities that fundamentally changed their culture. There were (in some order, I don't feel like looking it up) the French, the Normans, the Saxons, the Romans, the Angles, the Jutes, the Frisians, etc. England is still there and is still doing well. Why does American not need to follow this model (except I suspect we would both prefer that immigration to be peaceful in the case of the US)?

 

[watsup]

Israel has been in a state of war with the Arab League since 1948. Get a clue.

There is no active "war" with Palestine while Israel is illegally taking their land no matter how often you repeat that falsehood.

 

[TheParser]

I assume that the violence stems from two sources: (a) The same young gentlemen who are beating Asians to a pulp are also beating Jewish people because of some alleged grievance they have against Jewish people and (b) the anti-Jewish violence has recently increased because of the Israel-Gaza problem. What really is outrageous is that some of the thugs who are abusing Jewish people are probably not even American citizens! What a nerve!

 

[Glitch]

Was it legal? Or just something we could do because no one could stop us?

It was something we could do because we won the Spanish/American War. We also took Cuba and the Philippines, but we allowed them to declare their independence (in 1900 for Cuba, and 1946 for the Philippines) instead of keeping them as US territories. That was how the US started the Spanish/American War, despite the media propaganda to the contrary.

The US started the Spanish/American War by officially recognizing the independence of Cuba, a Spanish territory. It had nothing to do with the boiler explosion aboard the USS Maine in Havana harbor. That was entirely media propaganda.

 

[watsup]

Well that is true. Terrorist like Hama are the lowest form of humanity.

What about those who illegally take land from others without recompense, mist because they can. Would it bother you at all of someone simply came and took part of your property, and when you complained they said "tough luck".

 

[NewfieMom]

It began with the Christian Biblical teaching that Jews and their descendents are responsible for the killing of Christ.

Thank you. Not comprehensive, but pithy.

 

[watsup]

From Jamestown 1607 up until the 'Immigration Act of 1965' the immigration laws of this country were written with one
goal, to preserve the European character of this country. From the Irish immigration in the mid 19th century to the election of the first Catholic president a century later this country sought to maintain itself as a nation of European origin.

Why were the huge numbers of immigrants from the 1860's to the 1920's from new factions
from southern & eastern Europe & Ireland successfully integrated into US society, here is why:

'After each wave of immigration there were long periods of little or no immigration
giving time for the Americans to assimilate the newcomers.
Their children passed through deeply patriotic schools where they were
immersed in the language, literature, history & traditions uniquely American.
These were the reasons that the immigrations of that particular era worked.
Far different situation today.

As the melting pot turned millions of children & grand children of European Immigrants into Americans the last
two generations have extended that logic to assert that we can bring in countless more from every country &
culture & color on earth & create a stronger happier & a more united nation than the America of 1960.

But where on earth has such diversity led to anything other than disharmony & chaos.
It's there for all to see racially, culturally, ethnically & politically America is disintigrating.

It is only disintegrating because certain Americans insist on turning their backs on immigrants.

 

[Blue Dog]

“If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men”

Romans 12-18

 

[watsup]

From Jamestown 1607 up until the 'Immigration Act of 1965' the immigration laws of this country were written with one
goal, to preserve the European character of this country. From the Irish immigration in the mid 19th century to the election of the first Catholic president a century later this country sought to maintain itself as a nation of European origin.

Why were the huge numbers of immigrants from the 1860's to the 1920's from new factions
from southern & eastern Europe & Ireland successfully integrated into US society, here is why:

'After each wave of immigration there were long periods of little or no immigration
giving time for the Americans to assimilate the newcomers.
Their children passed through deeply patriotic schools where they were
immersed in the language, literature, history & traditions uniquely American.
These were the reasons that the immigrations of that particular era worked.
Far different situation today.

As the melting pot turned millions of children & grand children of European Immigrants into Americans the last
two generations have extended that logic to assert that we can bring in countless more from every country &
culture & color on earth & create a stronger happier & a more united nation than the America of 1960.

But where on earth has such diversity led to anything other than disharmony & chaos.
It's there for all to see racially, culturally, ethnically & politically America is disintigrating.

You do know that in the America of 1960, blacks all across the South ans elsewhere were still experiencing the apartheid that had been put in place within a few years after the Civil War, right?

 

[366h34d]

It is simpler than that.

Palestine has been fighting a proxy war with Israel on behalf of the Arab League since Israel kicked the Arab League's ass in the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

Palestine was fighting a proxy??? I don't believe that it was the case. YOu needed to remember it was Palestine listening to the Arab brothers started the war in 1947. They were winning at first. Then, you know the rest. NOw, Palestine, as I said before, is a gambler with a gambling problem.

 

[j brown's body]

It was something we could do because we won the Spanish/American War. We also took Cuba and the Philippines, but we allowed them to declare their independence (in 1900 for Cuba, and 1946 for the Philippines) instead of keeping them as US territories. That was how the US started the Spanish/American War, despite the media propaganda to the contrary.

The US started the Spanish/American War by officially recognizing the independence of Cuba, a Spanish territory. It had nothing to do with the boiler explosion aboard the USS Maine in Havana harbor. That was entirely media propaganda.

Indeed. We did it to protect our business interests. "Independence" a somewhat relative term.

 

[slick]

Thanks for expanding on it, I would have preferred something more scientific, but we will go with what you presented.

However, to answer your question. Consider England, which was at first celtic, but then have waves of other ethnicities that fundamentally changed their culture. There were (in some order, I don't feel like looking it up) the French, the Normans, the Saxons, the Romans, the Angles, the Jutes, the Frisians, etc. England is still there and is still doing well. Why does American not need to follow this model (except I suspect we would both prefer that immigration to be peaceful in the case of the US)?

Well stated but allow a contradiction:

December 2009 a USA network report found that only 25% believe diversity
is an advantage for this country while 55% feel otherwise.
More than half in this country say we are excessively divided especially on
ethnic lines. Do Americans love this newly found 'Beautiful Mosaic'?
NO!

1) Is Britain stronger now that London is Londonistan than is was in the days of
'Hope & Glory' now than Mullahs defend Muslim bombers
2) Israel does not wish to build a multiethnic society refusing to allow palestinians back who once inhabited the lands
3) Diversity certainly is not the wish of Scots & Welsh who desire to follow the Irish to independence
4) Has diversity in the Balkans ever been anything but the cause for troubling times
5) The divide between Christians & Muslims in Lebanon is not a success for diversity
6) No countries cringed when they heard the word 'nationalist' especially
not Europe. WWI created Czechoslovakia where 500,000 Ruthenians,
800,000 Hungarians, 150,000 Poles, 3.6 million Germans & 2.5 million Slovaks. All resented being forced in a nation
dominated by 7 million Czechs. Czechoslovakia proved to be the saddest representation of how toxic a multi-ethnic diverse experiment can be.

After WWII they did not make the same mistake.Europe from Eire to the Elbe consisted of all homogenous states.
'The drive of ethnic groups to separate and create nations in which there own unique culture, language & faith are
dominant is among the most powerful drive of mankind.' You're swimming up
stream not to acknowledge the power of ethnonationalism.

Rarely in history has diversity been anything but trouble

America overtook Britain as the greatest economic & military power in the world around the 1920's far before the
'age of diversity'. Since the age of diversity in a matter of years the USA will soon give up those titles after 100 years to
a country which is the most perfect example of homogenous citizenry.

 

[slick]

You do know that in the America of 1960, blacks all across the South ans elsewhere were still experiencing the apartheid that had been put in place within a few years after the Civil War, right?

LBJ's disastrous "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution" & the equally disastrous 'Hart/Cellar Act of 1965'
his 'Great Society' movement though perhaps well intended was an equal disaster & though blacks
benefitted through affirmitive actions in many areas & some obtained middle class status it mainly
helped the 'talented tenth' of this segment of society. Look at the black ghetto's now are the
inhabitants of these areas in better shape than in 1950's & 60's do they have more 'peace of mind'
I doubt it.The 'great society' decimated the black family & that made all the inroads pale in comparison.
The True Black Tragedy: Illegitimacy Rate of Nearly 75%. IBlack illegitimacy stood at 25 percent by 1965,

In the 60’s America had reached it’s Zenith. I went to a top college as did some of my best friends but some of
my buddies were not as fortunate. However there was a huge Ford plant about 15 miles away in Mahwah NJ where
there were thousands of good jobs available where they were able to make good money & go to college close by
at night. That Ford plant was closed in the 1980’s. Kid’s nowadays rarely have that type job to enter.

For the most part life was getting better for every segment of society. College was affordle for almost everyone.
I went to college in Virginia and had to go to summer school one year for 6 credits, the dean of men who I
knew better than most students for both good & bad reasons allowed me to be considered an in-state student
and I payed $84 for 6 credits. Eight years ago my brothers kid payed $5000 for 3 credits at NYU in the city.

California was still the paradise over the mountains for those seeking the new opportunities there. Blacks
for the first time became dominant in sports & Music and were making inroads in TV & the movies.
There talented tenth were thriving & their families were still intact. For blacks youths jobs were a plenty
without competing with the waves of immigration which followed bringing the 300 or so now languages
spoken here today.

 

[brothern]

Blame the terrorist Hamas, they started it.

There is no active "war" with Palestine while Israel is illegally taking their land no matter how often you repeat that falsehood.

Israel and the United States share some similarities in the expansion of their borders.

A lot of people in the United States from the beginning of the 19th Century believed it was their moral obligation and ultimate destiny to expand the country to the Pacific Ocean. Manifest destiny. Civilize the uncivilized in other words. Obviously we all today know that there were a lot of Native Americans in the way. Regardless, settlers and the United States ignored any indigenous claims and promptly evicted tribes through military means. And if the Natives Americans didn't end up dead, they ended up on reservations designated by the US government.

The same goes for Israel, today. A number of members of the Israeli government, including Prime Minister Netanyahu, believes it is their moral obligation to unite the whole of Israel under Jewish ownership. However since there is such population density, the battle has been fought literally property by property and acre by acre since the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. Anywhere there is an opportunity to do so, Israel will identify, evict and then demolish Palestinian and Israeli-Arab homes and properties.

The trend has accelerated in the past few years with 2020 (despite the pandemic) being a record high for Palestinian and Israeli-Arab evictions.

People that are forced from their homes, who do not leave Israel, are forced onto designate areas just like Native Americas were. What's different is that, for example, in the Gaza strip, Israel has maintained a strict blockade since 2007 on anything but basic goods & services. The hope is that they can choke the Palestinians hard enough to force them them to self-deport.

Just a few years ago the government was able to pass a Nation State bill that was MAJORLY contentious. Because not only did it declare Israeli settlements a national value, but which declared Jews and only Jews have the right to "self-determination" in Israel. To explain that. You know how the US Constitution starts with "We the People of the United States in order to form a more perfect Union ..." That is self-determination. That statement places the right in the hands of the People to self-determine what kind of country the United States is.

Israel rejected that ideal. If Israel had a Constitution, the government passed a bill that which stated "We the Jewish people" were the only ones that had any right to Israel the country.

 

[Buckeyes85]

My one word answer for all this conflict:

Religion.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Well stated but allow a contradiction:

December 2009 a USA network report found that only 25% believe diversity
is an advantage for this country while 55% feel otherwise.
More than half in this country say we are excessively divided especially on
ethnic lines. Do Americans love this newly found 'Beautiful Mosaic'?
NO!

1) Is Britain stronger now that London is Londonistan than is was in the days of
'Hope & Glory' now than Mullahs defend Muslim bombers
2) Israel does not wish to build a multiethnic society refusing to allow palestinians back who once inhabited the lands
3) Diversity certainly is not the wish of Scots & Welsh who desire to follow the Irish to independence
4) Has diversity in the Balkans ever been anything but the cause for troubling times
5) The divide between Christians & Muslims in Lebanon is not a success for diversity
6) No countries cringed when they heard the word 'nationalist' especially
not Europe. WWI created Czechoslovakia where 500,000 Ruthenians,
800,000 Hungarians, 150,000 Poles, 3.6 million Germans & 2.5 million Slovaks. All resented being forced in a nation
dominated by 7 million Czechs. Czechoslovakia proved to be the saddest representation of how toxic a multi-ethnic diverse experiment can be.

After WWII they did not make the same mistake.Europe from Eire to the Elbe consisted of all homogenous states.
'The drive of ethnic groups to separate and create nations in which there own unique culture, language & faith are
dominant is among the most powerful drive of mankind.' You're swimming up
stream not to acknowledge the power of ethnonationalism.

Rarely in history has diversity been anything but trouble

America overtook Britain as the greatest economic & military power in the world around the 1920's far before the
'age of diversity'. Since the age of diversity in a matter of years the USA will soon give up those titles after 100 years to
a country which is the most perfect example of homogenous citizenry.

ok so

1. I don't know what you are trying to say
2. I don't see that as relevant. Israel is fully of a people who have been oppressed for two thousand years and there are cultural reasons for them to be insular.
3. It depends on which Welsh or Scottish person you talk to. In neither case does even 50% of the population support independence.
4. You may be correct about the Balkans, that is a pretty fractious region of the world and even in nominally cohesive nations, they seem to find a reason to fight amongst themselves. Perhaps that is just slavic culture since we don't see it so much in other regions of the country.
5. In this case I blame the fundamentalist Muslims and their belief that they should be the dominant religion of the world
6. Administratively created countries are a problem, we see that in the middle east as well.

The problem with what you are presenting is that there are a myriad of causes that can be traced to things other than ethnic diversity, whereas there are examples of ethnic diversity working. In that, I present England (I found your evidence poor, so I am going to use it as a positive example), the Flemish and Dutch, mainland Italians and Sicilians, the Creole and English speakers in Louisiana, Hispanic culture within Texas, the general hodge-podge of peoples in Taiwan.

There have been any number of example of stable and prosperous multi-ethnic countries throughout history. I just listed some examples.

 

[watsup]

LBJ's disastrous "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution" & the equally disastrous 'Hart/Cellar Act of 1965'
his 'Great Society' movement though perhaps well intended was an equal disaster & though blacks
benefitted through affirmitive actions in many areas & some obtained middle class status it mainly
helped the 'talented tenth' of this segment of society. Look at the black ghetto's now are the
inhabitants of these areas in better shape than in 1950's & 60's do they have more 'peace of mind'
I doubt it.The 'great society' decimated the black family & that made all the inroads pale in comparison.
The True Black Tragedy: Illegitimacy Rate of Nearly 75%. IBlack illegitimacy stood at 25 percent by 1965,

In the 60’s America had reached it’s Zenith. I went to a top college as did some of my best friends but some of
my buddies were not as fortunate. However there was a huge Ford plant about 15 miles away in Mahwah NJ where
there were thousands of good jobs available where they were able to make good money & go to college close by
at night. That Ford plant was closed in the 1980’s. Kid’s nowadays rarely have that type job to enter.

For the most part life was getting better for every segment of society. College was affordle for almost everyone.
I went to college in Virginia and had to go to summer school one year for 6 credits, the dean of men who I
knew better than most students for both good & bad reasons allowed me to be considered an in-state student
and I payed $84 for 6 credits. Eight years ago my brothers kid payed $5000 for 3 credits at NYU in the city.

California was still the paradise over the mountains for those seeking the new opportunities there. Blacks
for the first time became dominant in sports & Music and were making inroads in TV & the movies.
There talented tenth were thriving & their families were still intact. For blacks youths jobs were a plenty
without competing with the waves of immigration which followed bringing the 300 or so now languages
spoken here today.

In the 60s, America had reached its zenith for WHITES such as yourself and myself. Blacks, as is stated, were still loving in a state of apartheid that had existed for almost a century, thus putting them that far behind in education and employment opportunities. What you saw were the benefits for WHITE America. That was not the whole story, no matter how you try to "whitewash" it.

 

[Questerr]

Does that "book" explain how Israel is the victim of muslim terrorist rocket attacks. Israel is truely a victim here.

So the question remains, why all the Jewish hatred.

It has nothing to do with Israel’s campaign of ethnic cleansing and policy of Apartheid?