Then I try again...If we just aknowleged the Trumpers beef and stopped hating on them, they might not have a defense mechanism as saying we "hate them libs" as the first turn....You're just blabbing now. Stop trying to prove me wrong and start getting in there and changing some minds. If you can. And I don't think you can.
And human too...how long would that go?Then I try again...If we just aknowleged the Trumpers beef and stopped hating on them, they might not have a defense mechanism as saying we "hate them libs" as the first turn....
No need to agree...but aknowlege that they are heard
Just ask anybodyThen I try again...If we just aknowleged the Trumpers beef and stopped hating on them, they might not have a defense mechanism as saying we "hate them libs" as the first turn....
No need to agree...but aknowlege that they are heard
Then I try again...If we just aknowleged the Trumpers beef and stopped hating on them, they might not have a defense mechanism as saying we "hate them libs" as the first turn....
No need to agree...but aknowlege that they are heard
I'll try... But as I said in the OP:Blah blah blah blah blah. Engage them and show us how it's done. Lead by example.
If you can.
For the past year covid was blamed on Trump, he killed tens of thousands. It was political from the beginning... now we find out how negligent Cuomo is.
Any updates? Did you speak to them yet?So some still think covid is a hoax...and we need to speak to them...
My fellow humans! I appeal to you.
We may have differences on politics and policy...sure...that is what debate is all about...really good...but even on covid (though it ain't a hoax) is debated...(again...very real) (Who would think that once the US passed 500000 deaths it could be a hoax?)
But some of our fellow humans think it a hoax and we need to speak to them...withouht the supposed higher self... (but reason)!
I just can not help but notice the desire for "take-downs" and political partisan attacks and PERSONAL attacks...
Again...I get that disagreements are important...hell do I have lot with the maga cult and the morons of the uber-wokists...
Covid is very real...but my talking down to them you will NEVER get there
But I guess what I am saying is we should never loose a sense of a common humanity....
People have different Life experiences... they arrive at conclusions that may seem foreign to you...but they are very real tp our fellow brothers and sisters...
So don't dissmis people....
Covid is very real...but others are not so sure....because of many reasons....(again we need not to understand them fully)
..
I do not think we should push them away but embrace the differences and than obviously try to convince them
(Who would think that once the US passed 500000 deaths it could be a hoax?)
If you want to understand Trumpism just watch the "Jonestown" documentary. Or Waco!
Thee were inflated numbers George
Jut think George, there is around 2 1/2 Million Americans who die normally every single year pre- COVID
Kinda dwarfs your inflated 500,000 number
So by calling people " cultist" you think you are part of some solution?My fellow humans! I appeal to you.
We may have differences on politics and policy...sure...that is what debate is all about...really good...but even on covid (though it ain't a hoax) is debated...(again...very real) (Who would think that once the US passed 500000 deaths it could be a hoax?)
But some of our fellow humans think it a hoax and we need to speak to them...withouht the supposed higher self... (but reason)!
I just can not help but notice the desire for "take-downs" and political partisan attacks and PERSONAL attacks...
Again...I get that disagreements are important...hell do I have lot with the maga cult and the morons of the uber-wokists...
Covid is very real...but my talking down to them you will NEVER get there
But I guess what I am saying is we should never loose a sense of a common humanity....
People have different Life experiences... they arrive at conclusions that may seem foreign to you...but they are very real tp our fellow brothers and sisters...
So don't dissmis people....
Covid is very real...but others are not so sure....because of many reasons....(again we need not to understand them fully)
..
I do not think we should push them away but embrace the differences and than obviously try to convince them
I am sorry if I did not make it clearer that I was referring to the hard core Trump base...NOT at all, all Trump voters...I am sorry for the confusion...Those who have cultish devotion to Trump, not all conservatives AT ALL...heck...not even all trump voters at all...I mean the hard core, "no matter what, he is the greatest person ever", people.So by calling people " cultist" you think you are part of some solution?
I should clarify that too...Trumpers, who I should have called hard core Trump voters, are like 45 percent of republicans, not the entire population...Those where the ones I was referring to as being in a cult...not at all everybody who voted for Trump...There is a also a leftist cult btw...And also, this leftist cult is also a minority of the left...I am talking about the ones that I (and the washington post) would call the uber-woke... the ones who wanna ban Shakespeare in the classroom and rename schools named after Lincoln...I agree in so far as Flat eathers aren't 30 to 45 percent ...
Sorry...I misread your post earlier...yes...that is EXACTLEY what I am asking.What you are asking Americans to do is to abandon the very basic, current, foundation of American politics wherein anyone who differs from you is **E*V*I*L** and must be destroyed.
Sorry...I misread your post earlier...yes...that is EXACTLEY what I am asking.
Look...I agree that the media and others have conflated being against certain policy to adrees covid with saying it ain't real... I was not doing that here...And I am not talking about those who disagree with certain policies...heck I am not in agreement with all policies too...I was talking about deniers...Nobody denies Covid is real. The question was always about how much freedom to sacrifice for the sake of some sense of safety.
I really, really do not think you should wish for peoples death...Kinda also the point I am trying to make... having disagreements with people, even strong ones? sure... But human beings deserve dignity and to be treated with humanity. Nobody deserves exemption from critique but not without respecting the human dignity of people...so I really, really don't think one should wish for somebodys death...For my part I don’t hate republicans or many parts of their conservative beliefs. I hate our jackass ex president because he is a consummate liar and is responsible for the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans.
The issues we can debate and hopefully reach a middle ground eventually-as long as the jackass is either dead or never heard from again.
Have you seen the numbers this year for influenza, or heart failure, or stroke, or cancer? Have you noticed those are down? It's because if you were within a mile of Covid and died they count you as a Covid death.My fellow humans! I appeal to you.
We may have differences on politics and policy...sure...that is what debate is all about...really good...but even on covid (though it ain't a hoax) is debated...(again...very real) (Who would think that once the US passed 500000 deaths it could be a hoax?)
But some of our fellow humans think it a hoax and we need to speak to them...withouht the supposed higher self... (but reason)!
I just can not help but notice the desire for "take-downs" and political partisan attacks and PERSONAL attacks...
Again...I get that disagreements are important...hell do I have lot with the maga cult and the morons of the uber-wokists...
Covid is very real...but my talking down to them you will NEVER get there
But I guess what I am saying is we should never loose a sense of a common humanity....
People have different Life experiences... they arrive at conclusions that may seem foreign to you...but they are very real tp our fellow brothers and sisters...
So don't dissmis people....
Covid is very real...but others are not so sure....because of many reasons....(again we need not to understand them fully)
..
I do not think we should push them away but embrace the differences and than obviously try to convince them
Nuetral, hardly so. You buy in to the exaggeration of Covid deaths.Well, it's true that attacking them only makes them burrow in deeper; that's human nature. I think all we can do is keep laying out the facts and stay neutral when they come up with an "alternative" theory from the deep hole of suspicion they huddle in.
I really, really do not think you should wish for peoples death...Kinda also the point I am trying to make... having disagreements with people, even strong ones? sure... But human beings deserve dignity and to be treated with humanity. Nobody deserves exemption from critique but not without respecting the human dignity of people...so I really, really don't think one should wish for somebodys death...
As Majid Nawaz once said: No idea is above scrutiny and no human below dignity... I think that is a nice sentiment to live by...
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