I Noticed About 80% Of Posters Here Are From The Left (1 Viewer)

[Grand Mal]

LOL. Democrats have done nothing but whine about Trump 24/7 since the election.

What do you expect? Your boy is the President- you think he should be ignored?
Not just Democrats. Most of the world is criticising that lying idiot you elected.

 

[choiceone]

Biden disobeyed Supreme Court orders. He's the one who showed Trump that they could disobey court orders.

I'd love it if you specified what order he disobeyed. My understanding is that he came closest to doing this when he wasn't allowed to cancel student debt in the way that his administration had developed a cancellation plan. However, he didn't carry out that plan. Instead, sticking to the letter of the law, his administration figured out how he could meet the letter of the law and still cancel certain cases of the debt, so he did that. But my understanding is that his administration was careful to follow the letter of the SC ruling and the law when they developed and carried out that alternative.

Trump doesn't do that. He just blatantly defies or ignores court rulings if he doesn't like them. He didn't learn that from anyone in the last 100+ years. The closest anyone has come has probably been Andrew Jackson.

 

[Moderate Right]

That’s our difference, I think both major parties have fallen off the cliff when it comes to sanity and normalcy.

While that's true and I agree, the reality is there are no other options. That's just the reality. It's got to the point where you pick a side because, as much as you don't like them, the other side is tons worse. That's where I am. I prefer voting and voting for option 3 (who is guaranteed to lose) is just a complete waste of time. Might as well just stay home and binge Gilligan's Island reruns. I guess that is where you have landed. The left are just so far gone I don't much care what awful things Trump does or even if actually takes democracy away. His dictatorship would be a welcome relief when compared to the progressive woke agenda who can't even define what a woman is and is just fine with totally open borders, high crime, and runaway national debt.

 

[choiceone]

LOL. Democrats have done nothing but whine about Trump 24/7 since the election.

If you don't like it then run someone less odious next time.

 

[NuffSaid]

While that's true and I agree, the reality is there are no other options. That's just the reality. It's got to the point where you pick a side because, as much as you don't like them, the other side is tons worse. That's where I am. I prefer voting and voting for option 3 (who is guaranteed to lose) is just a complete waste of time. Might as well just stay home and binge Gilligan's Island reruns. I guess that is where you have landed. The left are just so far gone I don't much care what awful things Trump does or even if actually takes democracy away. His dictatorship would be a welcome sight when compared to the progressive woke agenda who can't even define what a woman is and is just fine with totally open borders.

I support Trump becoming a dictator.

 

[Moderate Right]

I support Trump becoming a dictator.

If I have a choice, supporting Trump being a dictator is far more preferable to supporting a side who is anti 2A, for the murder of fetuses, is anti-business, for open borders, high crime, and can't even define what a woman is. I love Trump attempting to absolutely destroy the woke policies of the left, including DEI which means promote diversity through discrimination. Give me a democrat who is against all that and I'll vote for them.

 

[choiceone]

I used to vote Democrat and Republican before the advent of far left totally nutty woke progressivism.

Now I never vote Democrat and won't until they return to being moderate and ditch the woke progressivism.

Can you be specific about what you mean by woke progressivism? Because the Republicans just ended USAID programs that helped American farmers, who are now sorry that they are going into a financial hole because of it. Because even some Republicans are telling Trump and supporters that they don't want Medicaid drastically cut, because a lot of MAGAts are on it. Because even red Kansas and Ohio made it clear in referenda to their state legislatures that they didn't want the legislatures to ban abortion at the extreme that they wished to, but supported liberal abortion policy in accord with certain state constitutional principles.

So I don't get what you think woke progressivism is. It's woke and progressive to renounce military force as one means of taking over Greenland? Help me out here.

 

[choiceone]

And version 2 of that, is to try to use the power of the judicial branch, by judge shopping and by flooding the system with so many lawsuits, that the executive branch is severely hindered or even halted.

Get over it. Republicans do that all the time.

 

[Moderate Right]

Can you be specific about what you mean by woke progressivism? Because the Republicans just ended USAID programs that helped American farmers, who are now sorry that they are going into a financial hole because of it. Because even some Republicans are telling Trump and supporters that they don't want Medicaid drastically cut, because a lot of MAGAts are on it. Because even red Kansas and Ohio made it clear in referenda to their state legislatures that they didn't want the legislatures to ban abortion at the extreme that they wished to, but supported liberal abortion policy in accord with certain state constitutional principles.

So I don't get what you think woke progressivism is. It's woke and progressive to renounce military force as one means of taking over Greenland? Help me out here.

I would never be able to explain it to you based on what you just wrote. You have drunk the blue kool aid and wouldn't be able to comprehend. Get back to me when you aren't so indoctrinated and I'll tay to explain it to you. Maybe you could start by re-writing the nonsense that you just wrote. I can't debate nonsense. It's just nonsense.

 

[NuffSaid]

If I have a choice, supporting Trump being a dictator is far more preferable to supporting a side who is anti 2A, for the murder of fetuses, is anti-business, for open borders, high crime, and can't even define what a woman is. I love Trump attempting to absolutely destroy the woke policies of the left, including DEI which means promote diversity through discrimination.

Democrats aren't anti-2A. Stop listening to Fox News.
Abortion should be a right for a woman - its their body. But I forgot, a bunch of old men want to strip women of that right, because THEY think its the right thing to do.
Anti-business? Oh, corporations getting their massive tax cuts that doesn't help anyone else, yeah I can see that.
Who had open borders?
High crime - again, stop watching Fox News

Destroy woke policies - banning books about black and gay people and banning 13 trans from competing in high school sports. Boy oh boy, that's awesome
anti DEI - Making sure raging alcoholics can share sensitive information with others who have no business seeing it. Oh wait - he's a white male, so that's okay.

 

[Callen]

If I have a choice, supporting Trump being a dictator is far more preferable to supporting a side who is anti 2A, for the murder of fetuses, is anti-business, for open borders, high crime, and can't even define what a woman is. I love Trump attempting to absolutely destroy the woke policies of the left, including DEI which means promote diversity through discrimination. Give me a democrat who is against all that and I'll vote for them.

I'm thinking "slightly conservative" may be a misnomer

 

[choiceone]

While that's true and I agree, the reality is there are no other options. That's just the reality. It's got to the point where you pick a side because, as much as you don't like them, the other side is tons worse. That's where I am. I prefer voting and voting for option 3 (who is guaranteed to lose) is just a complete waste of time. Might as well just stay home and binge Gilligan's Island reruns. I guess that is where you have landed. The left are just so far gone I don't much care what awful things Trump does or even if actually takes democracy away. His dictatorship would be a welcome relief when compared to the progressive woke agenda who can't even define what a woman is and is just fine with totally open borders, high crime, and runaway national debt.

This is good. You're beginning to list things that you use to define progressive and woke.

The thing I don't get is that, since Reagan, Republican presidents have famously increased the debt by their behavior (Reagan, Bush, Jr., and Trump), while Democrats such as Bill Clinton and Barack Obama actually lowered it. So why the h--- are you blaming Democrats in general but not Republicans, when this doesn't match reality.

On high crime, I don't get it, because it was proven a long time ago that the worst region of the country for violent crimes such as murder, manslaughter, rape, sexual assault, kidnapping, etc., is the South. NYC was actually able to lower its violent crime rate. Please help me understand you.

As for totally open borders, I vaguely recall that Obama had a better rate of deporting illegal immigrants than Trump did in his first term. Why, then, do you think Democrats are fine with totally open borders?

I'm guessing that the only thing real that you're using to define progressive and woke has to do with trans men and trans women, and the fact that Ketanji Brown Jackson wasn't ready to define "woman" for Congress when she was vetted. She was right, however, because it is very likely that some issues of trans men and trans women are going to come up while she's an SC justice, so she needed to keep her views on the definition private during the vetting.

 

[choiceone]

If I have a choice, supporting Trump being a dictator is far more preferable to supporting a side who is anti 2A, for the murder of fetuses, is anti-business, for open borders, high crime, and can't even define what a woman is. I love Trump attempting to absolutely destroy the woke policies of the left, including DEI which means promote diversity through discrimination. Give me a democrat who is against all that and I'll vote for them.

Just a thought.

Trump supported sending the issue of abortion back to the states, so all the states that are pro-choice have the power to do what they want, and you apparently define that, which Trump agrees with, as murder of fetuses.

Trump ended USAID, and thus very lucrative contracts for US farmers' businesses, and farmers are now freaking out. He instituted tariffs which threaten to put small businesses into bankruptcy.

In his last term, he didn't deport illegal immigrants at as high a rate as Obama had.

It is the American Southern states, which are red all over, that have the highest violent crime rates, at least the last time I looked.

And the last time I looked, there were large corporations that promoted diversity because it helped them improve their targeting of a diverse customer base.

So I really don't understand why you included those particular points as if they were woke or progressive.

 

[Moderate Right]

This is good. You're beginning to list things that you use to define progressive and woke.

The thing I don't get is that, since Reagan, Republican presidents have famously increased the debt by their behavior (Reagan, Bush, Jr., and Trump), while Democrats such as Bill Clinton and Barack Obama actually lowered it. So why the h--- are you blaming Democrats in general but not Republicans, when this doesn't match reality.

On high crime, I don't get it, because it was proven a long time ago that the worst region of the country for violent crimes such as murder, manslaughter, rape, sexual assault, kidnapping, etc., is the South. NYC was actually able to lower its violent crime rate. Please help me understand you.

As for totally open borders, I vaguely recall that Obama had a better rate of deporting illegal immigrants than Trump did in his first term. Why, then, do you think Democrats are fine with totally open borders?

I'm guessing that the only thing real that you're using to define progressive and woke has to do with trans men and trans women, and the fact that Ketanji Brown Jackson wasn't ready to define "woman" for Congress when she was vetted. She was right, however, because it is very likely that some issues of trans men and trans women are going to come up while she's an SC justice, so she needed to keep her views on the definition private during the vetting.

As far as debt goes, under Clinton, the Republican Congress forced him to reign in the debt with their "Contrac With America". Yes, over the years, both parties, including Trump, get an "F" in managing the US finances. But, there is only one party who wants to spend 50 trillion extra dollars on fighting mother nature, saying that is only the beginning and a down payment.

Blue cities have been ravaged by high crime due to their woke policies and wanting to fix social injustice by letting all the blacks go or not charging them. It has been so bad that many of those very same cities are fighting back against their previous progressive policies.

Illegals should be totally stopped from crossing out border. You cross illegally, you can't be made legal and you are banned for life. No benefits at all for coming here illegally as Democrats roll out the red carpet for them.

Tranny and DEI stuff should be destroyed. If you are a man you are a man. If you are a woman then you are a woman. Men shouldn't be allowed to play in women's sports, go to the bathroom in women's rest rooms, or change in women's locker rooms, including fitness places. If you are so crazy that you can't define what a woman is you shouldn't be allowed to be in any decision making authority.

 

[choiceone]

Democrats aren't anti-2A. Stop listening to Fox News.
Abortion should be a right for a woman - its their body. But I forgot, a bunch of old men want to strip women of that right, because THEY think its the right thing to do.
Anti-business? Oh, corporations getting their massive tax cuts that doesn't help anyone else, yeah I can see that.
Who had open borders?
High crime - again, stop watching Fox News

Destroy woke policies - banning books about black and gay people and banning 13 trans from competing in high school sports. Boy oh boy, that's awesome
anti DEI - Making sure raging alcoholics can share sensitive information with others who have no business seeing it. Oh wait - he's a white male, so that's okay.

Yes. I love the one about people complaining that students in a high school AP (advanced placement) class had a choice whether or not to read the great prize-winning novel by Nobel winner Toni Morrison, who has elevated the place of the US in literary art. This was portrayed as a book that should have been banned for describing a horrible rape in a long past historical period. And meanwhile, in Southern states like that one, the actual rape rate is very high and victimizes little girls in our own time, and police look the other way.

 

[choiceone]

As far as debt goes, under Clinton, the Republican Congress forced him to reign in the debt with their "Contrac With America". Yes, over the years, both parties, including Trump, get an "F" in managing the US finances. But, there is only one party who wants to spend 50 trillion extra dollars on fighting mother nature, saying that is only the beginning and a down payment.

I don't know of any Democrat who wants to spend 50 trillion extra dollars, so please explain this.

Blue cities have been ravaged by high crime due to their woke policies and wanting to fix social injustice by letting all the blacks go or not charging them. It has been so bad that many of those very same cities are fighting back against their previous progressive policies.

I'm not going to suggest that urban areas don't have more crime than rural ones, but it's worth noting that we have more crime when economic indicators are up than when they are down, too, and urban areas are usually superior to rural ones economically. I still want to know why the South is worse in violent crimes, because blue New York has lowered its violent crime and it didn't require going red.

Illegals should be totally stopped from crossing out border. You cross illegally, you can't be made legal and you are banned for life. No benefits at all for coming here illegally as Democrats roll out the red carpet for them.

I don't know of any Democrats who roll out the red carpet for illegal immigrants. But I do know that, if the latter have jobs that pay by payroll, they have all paid into Social Security and will not get any, so that money has helped pay for US retirees. Just a thought.

Tranny and DEI stuff should be destroyed. If you are a man you are a man. If you are a woman then you are a woman. Men shouldn't be allowed to play in women's sports, go to the bathroom in women's rest rooms, or change in women's locker rooms, including fitness places. If you are so crazy that you can't define what a woman is you shouldn't be allowed to be in any decision making authority.

I actually agree that men should be men and women women unless they have sex-change surgery, at which point it doesn't bother me at all. At least without such surgery, they certainly shouldn't be allowed in women's private spaces, and in sports where greater male musculature, greater male bone density, and greater male cardiopulmonary capacity are a significant advantage, they shouldn't be allowed to play in women's sports.

At the same time, however, this crap about not being able to define what a woman is is totally misplaced.

The word "woman" is actually ambiguous, because it can specify an adult of the female sex or an adult of the female gender, and sex and gender are two different phenomena, one biological and one social/cultural.

I'm a typical person who votes Democrat. I'm insulted as a TERF (trans exclusive radical feminist) by some trans women even as other trans women who are leaders come right out and say, "I'm a trans woman, and I'm not a woman."

Ketanji Brown Jackson did what she was supposed to do while being Congressionally vetted for the SC, no matter how idiotic it may have seemed to you, because it's a sure thing that, on her watch, she's going to have to contribute to a related SC ruling.

 

[antiquity]

I'd love it if you specified what order he disobeyed. My understanding is that he came closest to doing this when he wasn't allowed to cancel student debt in the way that his administration had developed a cancellation plan. However, he didn't carry out that plan. Instead, sticking to the letter of the law, his administration figured out how he could meet the letter of the law and still cancel certain cases of the debt, so he did that. But my understanding is that his administration was careful to follow the letter of the SC ruling and the law when they developed and carried out that alternative.

Trump doesn't do that. He just blatantly defies or ignores court rulings if he doesn't like them. He didn't learn that from anyone in the last 100+ years. The closest anyone has come has probably been Andrew Jackson.

Which SC court order did Trump ignore? What should Trump do when the president of El Salvador said he wasn't going to release a terrorist? Invade?

 

[choiceone]

While that's true and I agree, the reality is there are no other options. That's just the reality. It's got to the point where you pick a side because, as much as you don't like them, the other side is tons worse. That's where I am. I prefer voting and voting for option 3 (who is guaranteed to lose) is just a complete waste of time. Might as well just stay home and binge Gilligan's Island reruns. I guess that is where you have landed. The left are just so far gone I don't much care what awful things Trump does or even if actually takes democracy away. His dictatorship would be a welcome relief when compared to the progressive woke agenda who can't even define what a woman is and is just fine with totally open borders, high crime, and runaway national debt.

This is like the whining of a child. This country was founded with the idea in mind that government of man by man is likely to be inherently evil, so if we have to vote for the lesser of two evils, that's what grown-ups have to do. But the notion that dictatorship would be a welcome relief based on the points you mention is wrong.

The first reason it's wrong is that it would willfully violate the US Constitution, and as citizens, we're really supposed to uphold it - the problem comes in cases where we disagree as to its meaning, but that's not a good reason to prefer dictatorship.

The second reason it's wrong is that the points you make are nonsense.

KBJ was not supposed to clarify her position on trans women while being vetted for an SC position which virtually guarantees that she'll be participating in a ruling about the issue.

Obama deported illegals at a higher rate in his term than Trump did in his first term, so you have no warrant to say Democrats are fine with open borders.

Blue states have managed to reduce their rates of violent crime under Democrats, and red states haven't.

Finally, Clinton and Obama lowered the national debt, while Reagan, Bush, Jr., and Trump all increased it. Yes, it went up under Biden, too, but you treat him as if he's the only Democrat, and then you say who cares if we turn into a dictatorship. Listen to yourself.

You are presenting a very unfair and unbalanced vision of Democrats.

 

[choiceone]

Which SC court order did Trump ignore? What should Trump do when the president of El Salvador said he wasn't going to release a terrorist? Invade?

You and I both know that the only reason the El Salvador president said that is because Trump asked him to.

 

[Moderate Right]

I don't know of any Democrat who wants to spend 50 trillion extra dollars, so please explain this.

I'm not going to suggest that urban areas don't have more crime than rural ones, but it's worth noting that we have more crime when economic indicators are up than when they are down, too, and urban areas are usually superior to rural ones economically. I still want to know why the South is worse in violent crimes, because blue New York has lowered its violent crime and it didn't require going red.

I don't know of any Democrats who roll out the red carpet for illegal immigrants. But I do know that, if the latter have jobs that pay by payroll, they have all paid into Social Security and will not get any, so that money has helped pay for US retirees. Just a thought.

I actually agree that men should be men and women women unless they have sex-change surgery, at which point it doesn't bother me at all. At least without such surgery, they certainly shouldn't be allowed in women's private spaces, and in sports where greater male musculature, greater male bone density, and greater male cardiopulmonary capacity are a significant advantage, they shouldn't be allowed to play in women's sports.

At the same time, however, this crap about not being able to define what a woman is is totally misplaced.

The word "woman" is actually ambiguous, because it can specify an adult of the female sex or an adult of the female gender, and sex and gender are two different phenomena, one biological and one social/cultural.

I'm a typical person who votes Democrat. I'm insulted as a TERF (trans exclusive radical feminist) by some trans women even as other trans women who are leaders come right out and say, "I'm a trans woman, and I'm not a woman."

Ketanji Brown Jackson did what she was supposed to do while being Congressionally vetted for the SC, no matter how idiotic it may have seemed to you, because it's a sure thing that, on her watch, she's going to have to contribute to a related SC ruling.

Take this, just for one example:

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

MAGA has been taught to believe that any resistance is from the left.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

supporting Trump being a dictator is far more preferable

Insane posting, as per usual.

 

[Gardener]

I'm thinking "slightly conservative" may be a misnomer

He looks like slightly conservative to me.

Of course, to the more Stalinist leftists, he must look right wing.

 

[Moderate Right]

Just a thought.

Trump supported sending the issue of abortion back to the states, so all the states that are pro-choice have the power to do what they want, and you apparently define that, which Trump agrees with, as murder of fetuses.

Trump ended USAID, and thus very lucrative contracts for US farmers' businesses, and farmers are now freaking out. He instituted tariffs which threaten to put small businesses into bankruptcy.

In his last term, he didn't deport illegal immigrants at as high a rate as Obama had.

It is the American Southern states, which are red all over, that have the highest violent crime rates, at least the last time I looked.

And the last time I looked, there were large corporations that promoted diversity because it helped them improve their targeting of a diverse customer base.

So I really don't understand why you included those particular points as if they were woke or progressive.

I am against using abortion as a method of birth control. Let's say that I disagree with Trump on that. Is the solution voting for democrats?

Farmers may be freaking out but nothing has happened yet, other than freaking out.

Maybe Trump hasn't deported as many as Obama did (It's only been 3 months so I don't know how you compare that) but, Trump has made it so less people come, meaning less people need deporting. That should actually be the case. We want illegals coming here to be zero so that deportations are zero.

The highest violent crime rates are in the blue cities, some of which are located in red states, such as Atlanta.

You mean like Bud Light? Anyway, DEI policies are discriminatory because you can't be more diverse without excluding others.

 

[SavannahMann]

So, I was wondering which part of the left you feel you are from. Just curious about how it breaks down.

The problem isn’t that we are left. The problem is that we aren’t extremists.

For example. I’ve called myself a slightly right of center Moderate more than once.

My ideals and beliefs make me not a far right authoritarian. I believe a Woman’s Body is her business not mine. I believe in the Constitution. I believe everyone has the same rights. I am a member of the NRA and the ACLU. Because I believe all the Amendments matter. Not just the second.

In Berkeley I’d be considered a far right radical because I believe in the lawful carrying of firearms. In Rural Georgia I’m a leftist because I believe that should only be done with a license, not constitutional carry.

The problem isn’t that we are Leftists. The problem is that the Trump Fanboys are extremists.