These are baseless and false politically motivated political push narratives, in the hopes that if they are repeated often enough they'll become the accepted truths.
They neither truthful nor accurate.
Those political motivated push narratives have already been debunked multiple times in these very forums and elsewhere.Quote from the "talking points" that were "...neither truthful nor accurate." and, based on what evidence you can give, why?
How many laws restricting voting has the GOP, and only the GOP, pushed in the last couple of years? How often have republicans said they do better when fewer people vote?These are baseless and false politically motivated political push narratives, in the hopes that if they are repeated often enough they'll become the accepted truths.
They neither truthful nor accurate.
Key phrase above is "amid the Coronavirus pandemic." That was the chief "unprecedented irregularity." Of course the "precedented irregularity" was sore loser Trump once again claiming that an election that displeased him was rigged.Your reading of the citation is inaccurate.
All the Intel agencies say the Russians meddled in the election. Russians have been meddling in US election since before the onset of the Cold War, and have only recently changed their tools to include social media.
Your conclusion that 'wouldn’t have won but for Russian interference' is not in that citation. Try again.
To deny that there weren't irregularities in the 2020 election is not a position based on the facts, because there certainly were irregularities leading up to the election, and post election.
For example:
There were a number of states which changed voting laws and voting regulations by other than the State legislatures, which, per the constitution, are the only ones authorized to change a state's voting laws and regulations.
Here's how states have changed the rules around voting amid the coronavirus pandemic
- What would you expect an advocate of mail-in balloting to say? Other than ‘if you did it my way everything would be solved, and better’.
- In Kentucky Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear, Republican Secretary of State Michael Adams and the nonpartisan State Board of Elections came to an agreement earlier this year to eliminate the excuse requirement for mail-in ballots and expand in-person early voting. – Not the State legislature?
- Secretaries of state from both parties in Ohio and Michigan took unilateral action to help make the voting process easier during this election. – Not the State legislature?
- Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin -- judges have recently issued rulings that extend the deadline for mail ballots to be received. – Not the State legislature?
- In Georgia, a federal judge ruled that ballots postmarked by Election Day will count if election officials get them by the third day after the election, but the secretary of state, the Republican National Committee and the Georgia Republican Party are challenging this order in court. – Not the State legislature?
Nine states plus D.C. will send mail-in ballots to active registered voters.
By Quinn Scanlan, September 22, 2020
Here's how states have changed the rules around voting amid the coronavirus pandemic
Voting is always confusing, but the coronavirus pandemic has made it even more so -- here's what you need to know about how voting has changed for the general election.abcnews.go.com
So to deny that there weren't unprecedented irregularities in the 2020 election is not a position based on the facts,
If you are making the claim that there's voter suppression going on, do please cite something which proves this, and brings forth a voter which has been suppressed.How many laws restricting voting has the GOP, and only the GOP, pushed in the last couple of years? How often have republicans said they do better when fewer people vote?
Because of the pandemic the laws and constitution surrounding the authorized changing of a state's election laws and regulations are null and void?Key phrase above is "amid the Coronavirus pandemic." That was the chief "unprecedented irregularity."
Of course the "precedented irregularity" was sore loser Trump once again claiming that an election that displeased him was rigged.
I am still waiting for so,some who participated in the crime of the century to come forward to sell their story and explain who recruited him/her and how they pulled it off with no one but Trump and a few contributers here noticing. Trump hasn't offered proof, can any of his followers?
There is a tendency towards authoritarianism in part of the GOP, and some on the right have in this forum would - absurdly in my view - compare mandates that come from the left (environmental, consumer laws, political correctness) as the same sort of thing. But what saves us as a country, is our ornery national character. Witness our impatience with mask mandates and other COVID measures. Yes, that people elected Trump, despite his bigoted demagoguery and suggestion of torture and war crimes, could be interpreted as troubling. In addition, the unprecedented “what a relief”-like celebrations of his defeat suggest that many believed we dodged a bullet in 2020, but his election came in significant part as a result of years of Hillary-bashing and the arrogance of some liberals. Nevertheless, I contradict my self by my fear that an authoritarian figure that wasn’t so obviously crooked and bigoted could get our support in the future.
Those political motivated push narratives have already been debunked multiple times in these very forums and elsewhere.
I suspect that this debunking has already been presented to you previously, as they have to many other from the left, yet only to be continued to be rejected, as their acceptance are articles of leftist religious zealotry.
The thread topic is: "I have to wonder if many who support the gop stop to think what they are supporting could end up making america into a version of russia today?"I haven't seen any debunking/refutation of the "points" in question. Your suspicion is unfounded. You didn't answer the question. If you'll do the debate courtesy of providing the evidence of what you say, it will be most appreciated.
It's the bigoted that get the necessary support from the bigoted to be in an authoritarian position. They will have to speak in bigot language to get that support, so it will be obvious.
You haven't provided any argument.Nice strawman arguments. Let me know when you have anything substantive to bring to the discussion. Until then, do please skip over my posts.
yo semite!!!!I'm going to choose the America that knows how to capitalize and does not write run-on sentences.
Without authority, there is the freedom of the jungle: the rule of the strong over the week. That’s fine when you’re in a position of power. But if you ever find yourself in a society where you are not, you may not find that that kind of freedom is not that great. You have no recourse or appeal.
Actually, the censorship that the Democrats seem fine with that our big tech companies are doing is closer to Russia than anything that the Republicans are currently doing.
What is it the Dems are doing more than the Rep/cons and exactly what is the censorship?
The thread topic is: "I have to wonder if many who support the gop stop to think what they are supporting could end up making america into a version of russia today?"
This is just so much political driven corrosive BS hyperbole, and doesn't require this 'debunking / refutation' you believe you are entitled to.
Yes, because a government that advocates the latest recommendations of doctors and scientists in a deadly pandemic is worse than one which calls the press "the enemy of the people", focuses on taking away people's access to vote, and incites insurrection and undermines American democracy every time it loses an election.
Can always count on your parroting the left's baseless and false talking points.
Those political motivated push narratives have already been debunked multiple times in these very forums and elsewhere.
I suspect that this debunking has already been presented to you previously, as they have to many other from the left, yet only to be continued to be rejected, as their acceptance are articles of leftist religious zealotry.
How can the claim of 'focuses on taking away people's access to vote' disputed by:You refused to answer a fairly asked debate question. See you on another thread.
Baseless and false talking points debunked.
Try reading my post again as to what point of yours I was addressing, then get back to me.Not at all. Your graph is showing no evidence of fraud-consistent with all other studies.
The 'torrent' of new voting regulation and regulations were to address the issues experienced in the 2020 election cycle.So what possible other purpose is there to all this torrent of new laws?
Playing dumb doesn't make a good start to your case. It has been widely understood that big tech has been censoring issues against conservatives. Covid "misinformation" being one large example, Hunter Biden's laptop being another. Any true liberal would be screaming about this censorship, even if it was happening to your enemies.
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