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Yeah just a 200+-post thread about someone who had to reply to an email. No outrage at all!
Yeah just a 200+-post thread about someone who had to reply to an email. No outrage at all!I'm sure you do, but what you have yet to do is explain why it would make sense.
It's less outrage and more calling out the stupidity of what Musk is doing, and mainly because of the reasons he's given explaining the reason he's asking for people to do this. Is it easy for employees to do? Sure. Does it make sense? Not so much. I mean, the CEO of a company could ask all of his employees to write limericks about pie every day. How much sense do you think that would make?
I understand some people like to quibble over minutiae to justify lazy, entitled government employees.Do you understand that "the boss" making clear he is cutting staff and requiring bullet point justification for yours is not the same as routinely being asked to fill a timesheet? Especially when "the boss" knows nothing about the agency?
From "no boss I ever had" to "everybody..."Everybody does....
Then it ought to be pretty easy for these guys to copy and paste 5 rows from their time sheet.That is the point here. You not seeing the problem with this is troubling. Do you think supervisors don't make the employees accountable?
We'll cross that bridge when we get there.If that is the case, then fire the supervisors.
It is really stupid to think Hegseth or Musk can mirco manage an entire department of every government agency
Great hope you enjoy your retirement.This week I had to respond to an email from Pete Hegseth, our Secretary of Defense. The email requested that I provide 5 bullet points about what I accomplished in my DOD civilian job last week.
I found this completely demeaning to everyone who is serving our country. I served this nation for over 20 years in the US Army, retiring as a Master Sergeant and I now work for the Department of Defense. Meanwhile, our Secretary of Defense never commanded a unit greater than a Company, but is serving as Trump and Musk's lap dog.
I realize that this is nothing but political theater, since many Trump supporters literally hate government workers, but the vast majority of government workers work hard and serve this nation, but also need their job to provide for themselves and their families. Pay for government workers is less than 3% of the budget. I really worry about these people, who are affected by this garbage.
Fortunately I don't need the job. I tried the retirement thing, but got bored and went back to work. So, in case anyone reads them, which I doubt, my 5 bullet comments were:
-**** you
-**** you
-**** you
-**** you
-**** you
This week I had to respond to an email from Pete Hegseth, our Secretary of Defense. The email requested that I provide 5 bullet points about what I accomplished in my DOD civilian job last week.
I found this completely demeaning to everyone who is serving our country. I served this nation for over 20 years in the US Army, retiring as a Master Sergeant and I now work for the Department of Defense. Meanwhile, our Secretary of Defense never commanded a unit greater than a Company, but is serving as Trump and Musk's lap dog.
I realize that this is nothing but political theater, since many Trump supporters literally hate government workers, but the vast majority of government workers work hard and serve this nation, but also need their job to provide for themselves and their families. Pay for government workers is less than 3% of the budget. I really worry about these people, who are affected by this garbage.
Fortunately I don't need the job. I tried the retirement thing, but got bored and went back to work. So, in case anyone reads them, which I doubt, my 5 bullet comments were:
-**** you
-**** you
-**** you
-**** you
-**** you
I 100% support you to never be employed by me, a taxpayer .I 100% support you to not be employed by me, the taxpayer of the USA
BTW I had to report to my manager/company all the things I did, just like I do and have for years. Tracking work is normal for companies.
If I were, I'd have a means of reporting what I did I imagine. Nobody works without their employer knowing what they didI 100% support you to never be employed by me, a taxpayer .
in this I agree - Musk should have IMO demanded reports from managers of everyone they had under them - the managers are the ones that take the heat, that's part of their responsibilityBTW reporting to your manager is a far cry to reporting to the company President, unless you work directly for that President.
I question that with the sheer immense number of employee's yes, there is a lot of waste and spending that could be consolidated. I have no idea who has staff meeting and reviews etcDo you believe that federal workers do not have staff meetings or reviews on a regular basis to go over what they have accomplished and what is left to get done?
Don't worry, you'll still be on the hook for my military retirement and my 100% VA disability when I do retire, so I won't have to worry about you forgetting about me.I 100% support you to not be employed by me, the taxpayer of the USA
BTW I had to report to my manager/company all the things I did, just like I do and have for years. Tracking work is normal for companies.
Elon Musk is not their boss.I hope you don't pretend to know what you are talking about. It is the exact same thing. Those learning targets and lesson plans had to match state standards and drop-in evaluations. They also had to prove that we were, indeed, actually teaching. BTW, we were to also provide video links to our lessons. When your boss tells you to do something, instead of bitching, do what your boss tells you to do.
Elon Musk isn't my boss. As far as people I've worked for in the past, I've never engratiated myself to any of them and I've done just fine.Great hope you enjoy your retirement.
What has this country come to that an employee finds it demeaning to answer a question from his boss? A rather simple question lol. The fact that you hold so much contempt for your superiors, likely politically motivated contempt, just proves how necessary getting rid of folks like you really is.
My father taught me to do whatever the boss asked as long as it was within my capabilities and legal. Responding to an email lol my goodness how low we have fallen these days.
You sweet young man.The OP's email came from the Secretary of Defense.
Do try and keep up.
And finally you get there....government employees must be lazy and entitled. Of course, that is what you have been trained to believe, probably think Trump is draining a swamp of ungrateful lazy workers.I understand some people like to quibble over minutiae to justify lazy, entitled government employees.
They believe he's trying the balance to budget and pay down the deficit after exploding it during his last term, so I'm sure they believe this as well.And finally you get there....government employees must be lazy and entitled. Of course, that is what you have been trained to believe, probably think Trump is draining a swamp of ungrateful lazy workers.
That's how MAGA operates...there always has to be an enemy.They believe he's trying the balance to budget and pay down the deficit after exploding it during his last term, so I'm sure they believe this as well.
You miss the point of the tax system. Shockingly, you seem to look at the tax system from an individual perspective. ie- "how am I personally affected". If you make that much money, it may be because you have specific talent or run a successful business. Luckily you live in a country that has a great highway system, great railway system, great electrical infrastructure, clean water coming to you, great sewage sytem taking the unwanted waste away. The one thing you are not doing is paying a disproportionate amount towards the running and managing of government services.lol
Son, I pay more in taxes than multiples of your salary which means I pay a disproportionate amout of your bloated government salary only to see you whine and disparage our leadership. And let's be real honest. Your job at aafes is not very important and in no way will you running away sobbing have any impact on anyone.
So far they appear to be strengthening the economy. They are expanding the private sector workforce and shrinking the public sector simultaneously. That is economically healthy.
Employment opprotunities are on the rise.
Not all of them. Just the lazy and entitled ones.And finally you get there....government employees must be lazy and entitled.
Of course, that is what you have been trained to believe, probably think Trump is draining a swamp of ungrateful lazy workers.
Based on your reply, you never had a job in your life. Everyone that I know who ever worked gets evaluated at least yearly by their supervisor. Do you think that the owner of the entire McDonalds franchises evaluate every employee of every McDonalds or do the individual store managers do that.From "no boss I ever had" to "everybody..."
I Had to Respond to an EMail
Why do so many people apparently find it "demeaning" to report on what they did? Pretty much every desk job I've ever had I've had to report on every minute I was at work. 30 minutes doing this, 1.5 hours doing that, etc... I've only ever worked in the private sector. The question is how much...debatepolitics.com
Liberals will take either ridiculous, extreme position to get their way.
Then it ought to be pretty easy for these guys to copy and paste 5 rows from their time sheet.
We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Exactly.
Your post couldn’t be more wrong. My final job for the company I retired from, a Top 100 company in the Fortune 500 since that list was originated in 1955, was as a litigation administrator. In other words, I directed our local legal counsel across the country where there were usually two to ten firms per state depending on the size of the state. Each month, I reviewed the billing statements per attorney and firm for each legal matter currently being litigated. Then I paid the firms.
What you apparently don’t know, is that there was a legal working agreement between my employer and each law firm. That included each attorney’s and paralegal’s hourly rate. It had nothing to do with paying the law firm what I thought their work was worth. It was contracted as such, and the hourly rate was plainly spelled out on the attorney’s billing statement each month, as well.
I knew the approximate legal costs up front from each type of matter I was about to retain an attorney to handle. If I wanted massive headaches and negative feedback to my superiors way up the executive ladder, I could question the billable hours submitted by the law firms with little to no basis. There is also a level of professional trust at work here.
Law firms getting the business from my employer usually spanned years and decades. It was work volume and a feather in their cap to be able to say they represented my employer. I had a business relationship with every one of these attorneys- some damn good ones, too. It got so that if I called one of them for counsel on a prospective matter or something they weren’t currently working on, the billing meter on their end wasn’t running. If it was something they were eventually going to be retained for, they would eventually get paid. It also had to be a billable matter- in other words, they would have to formally be asked to take a matter and conduct a conflicts check.
So yeah, they had “special legal privileges” to bill clients by the hour or fraction of hours. The original signed working agreement gave them that.
And how does this 5 bullet points email bullshit identify the lazy and entitled workers?Not all of them. Just the lazy and entitled ones.
I have read some of the DOGE reports and find them lacking.If I were, I'd have a means of reporting what I did I imagine. Nobody works without their employer knowing what they did
in this I agree - Musk should have IMO demanded reports from managers of everyone they had under them - the managers are the ones that take the heat, that's part of their responsibility
I question that with the sheer immense number of employee's yes, there is a lot of waste and spending that could be consolidated. I have no idea who has staff meeting and reviews etc
I can read the DOGE reports and am stunned by it.
doge.gov
Ramaswamy shreds NYC $220M migrant hotel deal paying Pakistan 'to house illegals in our own country'
Vivek Ramaswamy torched a reported $200 million agreement for New York City to lease the Roosevelt Hotel from the Pakistani government to house migrants.www.foxbusiness.com
DOGE says Texas non-profit reaped millions operating empty Pecos facility
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Don't worry, you'll still be on the hook for my military retirement and my 100% VA disability when I do retire, so I won't have to worry about you forgetting about me.
Just like how elon lied and said 8 billion was saved when it was 8 million. They are just looking for excuses to fire good people to "save money". You dont ask what they do for this country you just justify it as well if they were fired they must of not of done anything. These cuts are being powered also by AI which can also make mistakes elon has no idea what these people do or how any of these organizations operate and has no business overseeing them. You really think Pete Hegseth a guy that doesnt wash his hands being department of defense is a good thing? You guys just justify anything trump says it gets to a point where its sheer ridiculous.If I were, I'd have a means of reporting what I did I imagine. Nobody works without their employer knowing what they did
in this I agree - Musk should have IMO demanded reports from managers of everyone they had under them - the managers are the ones that take the heat, that's part of their responsibility
I question that with the sheer immense number of employee's yes, there is a lot of waste and spending that could be consolidated. I have no idea who has staff meeting and reviews etc
I can read the DOGE reports and am stunned by it.
doge.gov
Ramaswamy shreds NYC $220M migrant hotel deal paying Pakistan 'to house illegals in our own country'
Vivek Ramaswamy torched a reported $200 million agreement for New York City to lease the Roosevelt Hotel from the Pakistani government to house migrants.www.foxbusiness.com
DOGE says Texas non-profit reaped millions operating empty Pecos facility
PECOS, Texas (KMID/KPEJ)- The Department of Health and Human Services has terminated a contract with a nonprofit that was paid millions each month to operate a Texas overflow facility that largely sat empty, the Department of Government Efficiency announced on X this week. According to previous...www.yahoo.com
The only folks that don’t have to report what they do are the ones that are already doing what they have been told to do or have direct management that does the reporting. My employees don’t have to report because I watch them work.I 100% support you to not be employed by me, the taxpayer of the USA
BTW I had to report to my manager/company all the things I did, just like I do and have for years. Tracking work is normal for companies.
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