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I dont think Trump likes Zelensky very much LOL

Z is charismatic and resourceful. Trump probably feels threatened by that. I think Trump's got a fat wallet and a skinny playbook.
 
Mycroft said:
The only way to end this war when neither side wants to end it is for the US to invade and take over both countries.

Is that what you want?
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I could end this war and Putin's presidency of Russia by distributing traditional or very uninspired aircraft carrier warfare equipment kits mostly designed to result in durable end products to Ukraine and to Putin's political opponents. That would solve the problem.

Even more basic, we should have been distributing Springfield 1903 boxes in Russia since the Berlin Wall fell.
 
Juin said:
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I just read Trump's June 4th post on X. It must have gone down with the Green Goblin like a jug of rotting grape juice. No acknowledgement. No Kudos! Nothing! After a coup de main that, at the very least, the Green Goblin expected to elevate him to the level of the best of special operations: the Israelis, nothing from the greatest man in the world. Nothing from the only man who really matters. That disastrous clash at the Oval Office appears to be still exacting its revenge on the unfortunate Green Goblin.

Trump's post makes for a fascinating read. He had a conversation with Putin. In a matter of fact narrative. Suggesting it was calm, almost amicable, as in a chat between old acquaintances totally in synch; each instinctively knowing what the other is going through and vice versa. That has to eat the Green Goblin's craw. Trump was supposed to be placing a call to him, the Great Zelensky. After that a big conference call with Trump, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: punched up Macron, Sir Starmer, Dracula Merz, and doubting Duda; chaired by the Great Green Goblin.

Trump thought it was a good conversation! Again that has to eat the Green Goblin's craw. Why is Trump having good conversations with Putin? The Green Goblin has to be screaming. Why did the most powerful President on earth not request from him, Zelensky, a draft script of the Riot Act he would have ordered read to Putin?

And it was not a conversation that will lead to peace, said Trump. Not even the 30 day unconditional ceasefire the Green Goblin has been bothering everyone with. One is left with the impression Trump's interest in the conversation was more to get the feel of Putin, you know, make sure he was cool and calm, not about to engage in unrestrained arson like Zelensky. He, in all probability, found Putin calm and composed. The reason why it was a good conversation.

Oh, and Putin did say strongly that he will have to respond to Zelensky's tantrums. Trump's post does not suggest he raised any objections. Nor tried to calm things. Why should he? I now believe Zelensky's was a solo act. If he was not part of the plot, he will not be part of the play. The Green Goblin and the Four Horemen of the Apocalypse will have to duke it out as best as they can with the Russians.

What did you get from Trump's post?




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I don't think Trump ever liked Zelensky because Zelensky won't kiss his ass & obey him like a good dog.
 
Grand Mal said:
What I got is that the best spin Trump could put on it, the best light he could shine on it, is weakness. Trivial. Subservient. Putin will do what Putin will do and Trump isn't a consideration.
Trump is leading America into international impotence. Irrelevance.
Putin has no reason to give any regard to the USA.
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Mycroft said:
The only way to end this war when neither side wants to end it is for the US to invade and take over both countries.

Is that what you want?
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Do you support Russia's invasion of Ukraine?
 
Mycroft said:
First of all, Zelensky really had no reason to slap the Bear upside the head like this. Nuclear-ready bombers are not an issue in this war.
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Russia has used these bombers against Ukrainian targets, military AND civilian, since the war started. That makes them fair game.


Mycroft said:
Second, Putin HAS to respond and he will...
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And the results of his response will be added to the ICC's list of war crimes against him.


Mycroft said:
Third, If Zelensky had any intention of making people think he's interested in working out a peace deal, well...that's gone.
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Russia has refused ceasefires offered by both the U.S. & Ukraine. Read the news once in a while.
 
Roadvirus said:
Russia has used these bombers against Ukrainian targets, military AND civilian, since the war started. That makes them fair game.
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Not these bombers.

Roadvirus said:
And the results of his response will be added to the ICC's list of war crimes against him.
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LOL!!

Do you think Putin cares?

Roadvirus said:
Russia has refused ceasefires offered by both the U.S. & Ukraine. Read the news once in a while.
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So has Zelensky.
 
Mycroft said:
Not these bombers.
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So what was Russia using to launch cruise missiles into Ukraine then? You going to pretend you didn't see the video of the bomber loaded with those very missiles being hit?
 
Infinite Chaos said:
So what was Russia using to launch cruise missiles into Ukraine then? You going to pretend you didn't see the video of the bomber loaded with those very missiles being hit?
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I didn't see the video you mention.

But the fact is, those bombers are the ones Russia has on standby for nuclear deterrence. They are out in the open because of the START treaty. They haven't been used to bomb Ukraine.

Seriously...do you think those are the ONLY bombers Russia has? LOL!!
 
Infinite Chaos said:
You haven't educated yourself which means the 2nd question is utterly stupid.
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shrug...

So, educate me...or stop bothering me. I don't want your snark.

Bye.
 
Mycroft said:
Not these bombers.
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Yes, these bombers.

Mycroft said:
Do you think Putin cares?
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The question is whether you care. You're condemning Ukraine for bombing military aircraft yet all but justifying Russia continuing to bomb Ukrainian civilians in retaliation.

Mycroft said:
So has Zelensky.
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Zelensky has refused conditional ceasefires that only had conditions for them (such as accepting the loss of Crimea, withdrawing from the entire Donbass and immediately stopping all western arms shipments). The option of an unconditional 30-day ceasefire remains on the table.
 
Mycroft said:
I didn't see the video you mention.

But the fact is, those bombers are the ones Russia has on standby for nuclear deterrence. They are out in the open because of the START treaty. They haven't been used to bomb Ukraine.
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Russia withdrew from the START treaty in 2023 and has repeatedly used Bears and Backfires for bombing Ukraine.
 
Trump has bone spurs, Zelensky has big balls. The world is aware and Trump with his DSM-5 level insecurity is jealous.
 
Mycroft said:
Not these bombers.
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Yes, these bombers. The Russian military uses them as airborne platforms for launching cruise missiles and glide-bombs at civilian and military targets in Ukraine.

As such, they are legitimate military targets. Any locations and/or equipment of the Russian military are legitimate targets.
 
Mycroft said:
War is hell...and that's why Trump wants both sides to end it.
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It's not too late. Putin could order a ceasefire today to get the process started. Can Trump make Putin order a ceasefire? Is there an option available to either Trump or Zelensky to stop the war?

Putin could stop the war today. Why won't he?
 
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