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I don't think the US government should fly a traitor's flag

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Why the bloody hell is this so hard to understand?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Could you point out which US government building is flying a "traitors" flag.
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Like it or not, all 50 states are under the US government jurisdiction. So in a hierarchical way, all state governments are part of the US government.
 
Summerwind said:
Like it or not, all 50 states are under the US government jurisdiction. So in a hierarchical way, all state governments are part of the US government.
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but they are also seperate govts,being that the only power federal govt has over them is power granted to it by the constitution.that is called the tenth amendment,and so far it holds true today except on certain issues like lets sayequality under law,where states full well can make their own laws but the 14th amendment in lamens says they can not single out or exclude anyone from the law without just reason.

outside the 14th and a few other amendments,states hold all powers not granted to federal through the constitution.
 
Summerwind said:
Like it or not, all 50 states are under the US government jurisdiction. So in a hierarchical way, all state governments are part of the US government.
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I'm not American, so I can't say for sure, but I'd like to see you prove that the US Federal government has control over the State House of Government in any State of the Union. If they do, why doesn't Obama simply use his handy pen and make it illegal in any part of the United States to fly the Confederate Flag?
 
It is the flag of a defeated rival government. Just as old money families can't have the union jack flying at government buildings in this country, we can't and shouldn't do the same with the stars and bars.

What would any of us say about someone flying a swastika at German government buildings?
 

Duh! Just because one is true, doesn't mean the other is false, it just means both are true. Each state has it's government, within which each county has it's own, within each city has it's own, and all of that is also part of the US government.
 
Deuce said:
Why the bloody hell is this so hard to understand?
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It's not. Nor is it hard to understand why you are taking this distorted stance on the issue. This was a civil war, country against itself. Of note, neither side wanted the destruction of the other. The South simply wanted to leave the union. The North wanted to prevent that. Opting out of a nation does not a traitor make. Especially when you would leave peacefully if left alone.
 
:roll: really people. Nitpicking over the phrase "US government?" Obviously I am also referring to the state and local level. If any of you would like to pretend you are still confused, please say so, and I will laugh at you.
 
Summerwind said:
Duh! Just because one is true, doesn't mean the other is false, it just means both are true. Each state has it's government, within which each county has it's own, within each city has it's own, and all of that is also part of the US government.
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yes it is but there is also seperation of powers and appointed authority,meaning the federal govt can not just dictate to the states whatever it feels unless it was granted that power.for example the fed govt can tell texas how or how not to handle immigration since it is a federal power,but the fed govt cannot tell texas it can or cant fly a confederate flag anywhere,within reason as the us flag must always fly highest.
 
Summerwind said:
Duh! Just because one is true, doesn't mean the other is false, it just means both are true. Each state has it's government, within which each county has it's own, within each city has it's own, and all of that is also part of the US government.
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No, they are not. The federal offices are part of the US government. Those others are part of the State government. Governors to some extent, and definitely US representatives and US senators are where the interface is.
 
Again, DUH! It doesn't change the fact that it shouldn't be display on ANY government grounds in the US, otherwise known as US government grounds, right? Granted the OP didn't word it well, but all this side bs is just that bs. So as to not further derail the thread, if you don't understand by now, you need a comprehension course.
 

there is no real federal law saying only state and federal flags can be flown,especially when it is not flown over the state capital,but over a civil war memorial.
 

If folks want to display it on state government grounds, then more power to em. What you think should or shouldn't be displayed is meaningless unless you're part of that state. The feds don't have the grant of power to make that call. The most they can do is blackmail whatever state is displaying the flag with highway or project funding as they usually do when the feds don't have the grant of power to do what they want.

And no, your idea of what are US government grounds displays a lack of knowledge about our country and our system of government.
 
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