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I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust - By Uri Berliner (2 Viewers)

zincwarrior said:
The focus so far has been on the Russia story, and Hunter Biden. Thats only in the first fifth of the article. The remainder is really quite damning about the internal changes in culture there.
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When the author expresses a total blindness to the overwhelming number of connections between Putin and the Trump campaign (just the Stone/"Lucifer"/email hack is damning), it taints the rest.
 
I stopped listening to NPR a while ago when it became evident that they had become another shill for elitist democrats. Sadly, the only worthwhile broadcasting they do are their jazz segments.
 
ataraxia said:
That was just one recent example. They have been at this since they were created. That is how they have changed the very face of journalism and journalistic professionalism and integrity in this country. True pioneers in the field.

"During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so. "

11. The Media Can Legally Lie

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news
www.projectcensored.org www.projectcensored.org
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That's not the issue I refuted above. As I mentioned to you in my post, Fox was not required by the court to apologize.
 
gman said:
I stopped listening to NPR a while ago when it became evident that they had become another shill for elitist democrats. Sadly, the only worthwhile broadcasting they do are their jazz segments.
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Can you cite some examples for the above? Or elaborate on your point.
 
trixare4kids said:
That's not the issue I refuted above. As I mentioned to you in my post, Fox was not required by the court to apologize.
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True. And my point was that when other journalists realize there is no evidence for something, they let it go, and even often publish a retraction or apology.

But clearly Fox has been different. As you point out, they don't apologize, and have fought in the courts to not have to apologize, even after being caught deliberately lying and distorting the facts. They have pioneered and aggressively fought for the position that the media can legally lie and deliberately distort the news all it wants, under the protection of the 1st amendment. And you seem to agree.

So I am not sure that you and I are really saying anything really that different here, are we?
 
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The AntiDonald said:
Here's the thing though, by the very definition of collusion, it was apparent that collusion was occurring between Russian operatives and Trump campaign officials. Prime example was Manafort handing over internal (private) polling data to a Russian operative.

Collusion, according to the DoJ, is not illegal. Doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Mueller found over 100 instances of Trump people communicating with Russians. The republican led 1000-page senate investigation verified all of that.

This whole thing is more attempting to revise history than anything else. No different than republicans trying to claim there was no insurrection. We all saw that with our own eyes.
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I agree with this.

That being said, while I disagree with one of the article's premises, that NPR mislead its listeners in regard to connections between Russia and the Trump campaign (as there are numerous documented connections), I do think the author has a point about NPR becoming culturally out of touch with mainstream America. In the last 10 years, NPR is culturally to the left of even mainstream Democrats.

From the article:

"These initiatives, bolstered by a $1 million grant from the NPR Foundation, came from management, from the top down. Crucially, they were in sync culturally with what was happening at the grassroots—among producers, reporters, and other staffers. Most visible was a burgeoning number of employee resource (or affinity) groups based on identity.

They included MGIPOC (Marginalized Genders and Intersex People of Color mentorship program); Mi Gente (Latinx employees at NPR); NPR Noir (black employees at NPR); Southwest Asians and North Africans at NPR; Ummah (for Muslim-identifying employees); Women, Gender-Expansive, and Transgender People in Technology Throughout Public Media; Khevre (Jewish heritage and culture at NPR); and NPR Pride (LGBTQIA employees at NPR)."

That sounds like something out of Portlandia.
 
gman said:
I stopped listening to NPR a while ago when it became evident that they had become another shill for elitist democrats. Sadly, the only worthwhile broadcasting they do are their jazz segments.
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Nakedly Progressive Radio.

I watch the cooking shows and local restaurant review shows where they bring in ordinary people to talk about their experiences eating at local establishments. Those are still un-politicized (for now).

NOVA is still occasionally mostly science except when it gets into climate change.
 
Loulit01 said:
Who says Mueller found no evidence of crimes? The Mueller report sent people to jail and fined businessesx millions more than the cost of the investigation.
I reject the premise. NPR is a national treasure.

www.vox.com

All of Robert Mueller’s indictments and plea deals in the Russia investigation

The investigation is now complete.
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How much did the Mueller probe cost? It made money.

Another point in favor of theory No. 2: As of September, the fiscal cost of the Mueller investigation was roughly $0.00. By that point, the probe had spent roughly $26 million. But, by striking a plea agreement with Paul Manafort for his myriad white-collar crimes — an agreement that required Trump’s former campaign manager to forfeit five multi-million-dollar properties, a life-insurance policy, and the contents of multiple bank accounts — Mueller’s investigation had acquired somewhere between $26 million and $42 million worth of revenue for the federal treasury.
The Mueller probe’s (apparent) profitability is indicative of more than just Donald Trump’s mendacity: It also reflects the fact that there are few forms of law enforcement more cost-efficient than cracking down on super-rich tax cheats and money launderers. And yet, for some strange reason, the federal law enforcement has not made punishing the financial malfeasance of the super-rich a top-tier priority.

nymag.com

Note to Trump: The Mueller Probe Costs Roughly $0.00 — Not $40 Million

Trump accuses Mueller of “wasting more than $40,000,000 (is that possible?).” (No, Mr. President, it is not.)
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Another pro-Trump, RWE disinfo thread making Trump the malignant oppressor out to be victim?

Trump himself reversed the confiscation of Manafort assets that had paid for the inquiry. The actual waste of money was the Durham "Investigation".
Is there a total cost figure of that nonsense available?

 
eman623 said:
Nakedly Progressive Radio.

I watch the cooking shows and local restaurant review shows where they bring in ordinary people to talk about their experiences eating at local establishments. Those are still un-politicized (for now).

NOVA is still occasionally mostly science except when it gets into climate change.
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conflates NPR with PBS.
 
During the previous administration, NPR gave too much interview airtime to lying far right wing tweety cultists in the name of balance. I ended up choosing other stuff to listen to while I drive. If I wanted to hear Republicans lie, I'd watch faux.
 
trixare4kids said:
Fox was not required to issue any on-air retractions or apologies as part of the financial settlement with Dominion.

I don't see that as "defending their right to deliberately lie to the public as their right under the protection of free speech" as you claimed above.
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"the court" did not negotiate the settlement, did it?
 
eman623 said:
Nakedly Progressive Radio.

I watch the cooking shows and local restaurant review shows where they bring in ordinary people to talk about their experiences eating at local establishments. Those are still un-politicized (for now).
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eman623 said:
NOVA is still occasionally mostly science except when it gets into climate change.
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That's exactly spot on, and my impression as well.
 
eohrnberger said:
Madcow would never. Her viewers would never forgive her for being honest for once.
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What you resent and hold in contempt and assign blame to versus who and what you do not explains your warped grasp on reality.
What have you been accurate or fair about? You assume those who agree with have facts supported opinions and its all downhill from there.
 
trixare4kids said:
Can you cite some examples for the above? Or elaborate on your point.
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Did you not read the article? His thoughts mirror thousands if not hundreds of thousands who share his opinion. And I’ll believe his first hand knowledge/experience before any of your own skewed views.
 
gman said:
Did you not read the article? His thoughts mirror thousands if not hundreds of thousands who share his opinion. And I’ll believe his first hand knowledge/experience before any of your own skewed views.
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Well, thanks for the civility. :sneaky::rolleyes:
 
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