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Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine for Thousands in New York

Ethel2 said:
I can’t believe we are still reading idiotic posts from some here suggesting that HDQ or ivermectin is useful in treating Covid 🙄🙄🙄
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Gotta remember that Trump promoted these drugs when president. And if Trump speaks it, these people will believe it. It matters not what the clinical trials show. Remember Trump is smarter than the scientists.
 
The Hairy Fiddler said:
Gotta remember that Trump promoted these drugs when president. And if Trump speaks it, these people will believe it. It matters not what the clinical trials show. Remember Trump is smarter than the scientists.
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That’s part of the reason he’s a mass murderer.
 
Ethel2 said:
That’s part of the reason he’s a mass murderer.
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Not only is this statement inflammatory, it's an outright lie. There no factual basis for this statement. It's just trolling.
 
CaughtInThe said:
it means we have no clue and are just guessing.
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wasn't that pretty much what we did with the shots?

nobody knows long term effects until there is long term effects - think asbestos, fenfen, roundup etc
 
stealthycat said:
Trump 400,000 dead
Biden 800,000 dead

just sayin
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Trump: pandemic just getting started in the US
Biden: faced a pandemic that was peaking because of inaction by the former President.

See, using statistics can be fun. just saying.
 
American said:
Not only is this statement inflammatory, it's an outright lie. There no factual basis for this statement. It's just trolling.
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The factual basis was in the post he quoted.

yes, Trump handed a dumpster fire over to Biden.
 
stealthycat said:
wasn't that pretty much what we did with the shots?

nobody knows long term effects until there is long term effects - think asbestos, fenfen, roundup etc
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Every vaccine or medication ever, and herbal remedies as well, could fit into this.
 
The Hairy Fiddler said:
Gotta remember that Trump promoted these drugs when president. And if Trump speaks it, these people will believe it. It matters not what the clinical trials show. Remember Trump is smarter than the scientists.
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Smarter than his generals as well.
 
Sandokan said:
Mortality rate in the region of Isle de France and the city of Paris where hydroxychloroquine was banned, the mortality rate was a whopping 9%. In Proven–Alps Cote d’Azur and the city of Marseilles, where the drug was not banned, the mortality rate was only 2.3%. In Paris the death ratio per million was 2, 869, and in Marseilles was only 932. Paris accounted for 75% of the deaths and Marseilles for only 25%.
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This vindicates the early treatments of covid patients with hydroxychloroquine and other drugs, developed by Dr. Didier Raoult at the IHU of Marseilles. So far no apologies from WHO and the US National Institutes of Health that opposed its use for the treatment of Covid-19.
 
Sandokan said:
This vindicates the early treatments of covid patients with hydroxychloroquine and other drugs, developed by Dr. Didier Raoult at the IHU of Marseilles. So far no apologies from WHO and the US National Institutes of Health that opposed its use for the treatment of Covid-19.
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Quoting yourself looks a little desperate.

The shit didn't work.
 
Sandokan said:
Mortality rate in the region of Isle de France and the city of Paris where hydroxychloroquine was banned, the mortality rate was a whopping 9%. In Proven–Alps Cote d’Azur and the city of Marseilles, where the drug was not banned, the mortality rate was only 2.3%. In Paris the death ratio per million was 2, 869, and in Marseilles was only 932. Paris accounted for 75% of the deaths and Marseilles for only 25%.
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Got the science on this?
 
108 pages of this utter nonsense. Just amazing. Words to ponder. Because Trump said hydroxychloroquine worked for Covid patients, it doesn't make it so. As another poster eloquently said...."the shit don't work".
 
stealthycat said:
Trump 400,000 dead
Biden 800,000 dead

just sayin
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So you are comparing different lengths of time, since that was 1 year compared to well over? Do you think that is reasonable? Perhaps use a much more relevant timeframe, Feb 2020 - Jan 2021 compared to Feb 2021 - Jan 2022. Afterall, the deaths in the last 10 days of Jan 2021 cannot reasonably be considered to be "on Biden's watch", since they would have been from infections started prior to him taking office and policies from the previous administration.

Let me show you those numbers.

Deaths Feb 20 - Jan 21
491,236​
Deaths Feb 21 - Jan 22
441,701​
 
roguenuke said:
So you are comparing different lengths of time, since that was 1 year compared to well over? Do you think that is reasonable? Perhaps use a much more relevant timeframe, Feb 2020 - Jan 2021 compared to Feb 2021 - Jan 2022. Afterall, the deaths in the last 10 days of Jan 2021 cannot reasonably be considered to be "on Biden's watch", since they would have been from infections started prior to him taking office and policies from the previous administration.

Let me show you those numbers.

Deaths Feb 20 - Jan 21
491,236​
Deaths Feb 21 - Jan 22
441,701​
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no, its not really comparable in many ways

BUT

Biden was the one that wanted to use total deaths to say a POTUS shouldn't be if they had those kinds of deaths

so here we are, Biden, the Great Savior, the Killer of Covid, the POTUS that had the shots and wasn't blindsided by a pandemic with 800,000 dead on his watch, his presidency, his administration, his years

he made sure to hammer covid deaths under Trump, its fair to keep the numbers fresh in people's minds
 
stealthycat said:
no, its not really comparable in many ways

BUT

Biden was the one that wanted to use total deaths to say a POTUS shouldn't be if they had those kinds of deaths

so here we are, Biden, the Great Savior, the Killer of Covid, the POTUS that had the shots and wasn't blindsided by a pandemic with 800,000 dead on his watch, his presidency, his administration, his years

he made sure to hammer covid deaths under Trump, its fair to keep the numbers fresh in people's minds
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Trump was in charge of the pandemic for about a year.

Biden was burdened by not getting full (or much at all) cooperation from the Trump admin as he was taking office, Trump and other MAGAs intentionally working to undermine and sabotage the push for vaccines and other precautions, and a hostile court against him.

Once again, 2020 was during the worst time of the pandemic and had Trump in charge, as President, taking and saying some really stupid things and insisting on his own "knowledge" being better than everyone else's. Those are facts. He downplayed the pandemic, coronavirus entering the US and spreading for months before he was forced to take action.
 
roguenuke said:
Trump was in charge of the pandemic for about a year.

Biden was burdened by not getting full (or much at all) cooperation from the Trump admin as he was taking office, Trump and other MAGAs intentionally working to undermine and sabotage the push for vaccines and other precautions, and a hostile court against him.

Once again, 2020 was during the worst time of the pandemic and had Trump in charge, as President, taking and saying some really stupid things and insisting on his own "knowledge" being better than everyone else's. Those are facts. He downplayed the pandemic, coronavirus entering the US and spreading for months before he was forced to take action.
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allegedly

but you're making excuses for Biden and none for Trump - why? Trump was blindsided (like the world was) on a virus that nobody could stop. Democrats used it to shut down the economy, to weaponize it as a political tool for election

now, 4 years later, you're saying its terribly wrong to use the numbers on covid deaths like Joe did ?

lol - that's some liberal colored glasses you're wearing IMO
 
Sandokan said:
This vindicates the early treatments of covid patients with hydroxychloroquine and other drugs, developed by Dr. Didier Raoult at the IHU of Marseilles. So far no apologies from WHO and the US National Institutes of Health that opposed its use for the treatment of Covid-19.
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Bwaahaahaahaa

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