Hunter Biden brought VP Joe to dinner with shady business partners

[Anthony60]

Is it illegal or a violation of federal ethics for VP Biden to attend this dinner? No.

Did Biden take any action or actions (the definition of influence) to help Hunter’s business associates? No.

So, as usual, your side uses innuendo and guilt by association to imply wrongdoing when there was none.

Meanwhile, your side was silent when Trump’s kids used their father to actually sell influence to foreigners to the tune of $80 million a year. Ivanka even had an office in the White House where she conducted private business, which is an ethics violation. She got licenses granted to her from China while her father was making foreign policy with China.

Once again, we have condemn others for what you accept in yourself — except that others didn’t do anything wrong.

Was it illegal to physically be there? No, who said it was? Was Hunter getting $1 million a year? Yep. Did Joe show up, as promised? Yep. Did they cut Hunter's pay in half after Joe left office? They sure did.
But, in your mind, no reason to look into it, right? Oh, you bring up China? That's not the best subject for the Biden's either.

 

[MTAtech]

LOL, no you don't get it. Look at the disparate treatment of the two Presidents. Trump... can't find anything criminal, yet investigating continues for 5 years. Biden... there is a fog horn blasting that he is corrupt, but the left is essentially deaf to anything he does.

What are you talking about that they can’t find anything criminal on Trump? They just had a civil action that they expanded into a grand jury panel. The hinderance finding anything indictable on Trump while he was Prez was that Barr and the Treasury Secretary played defense, blocking subpoenas of taxes and financial records.

Now that the SCOTUS is allowing those records, there is a million documents to comb through. I can assure you that there is ample evidence to put him away for many years — which is why he was willing to overthrow the government to stay president.

Meanwhile there is no evidence of criminality of Joe Biden. What the right wing is doing is stoking innuendo. Biden’s son, Hunter, sat on the board of Burisma Holdings, a natural gas company that Zlochevsky co-founded, at some points earning $50,000 a month. Zlochevsky might have thought he could ingratiate himself with the Obama administration by buying an association with the vice president. All available evidence suggests he was wrong. Joe Biden did nothing to help Zlochevsky or Burisma.

But just as the right tried to paint the Clinton Foundation as dirty, when it wasn’t, ignoring the actual sewer, the Trump Foundation, they are using the same playbook on Biden.

 

[JasperL]

Great trivia info. Any opinion on Biden lying about being involved in his son's business, and allowing his son to profit over access to the then VP?

What was Joe Biden's 'involvement' in the business.

And afer four years of Trump and his kids selling access to the White House in about 1,000 different ways, I think we've kind of given up on that being a scandal. Not to mention, selling 'access' is why D.C. basically exists as a city, and pays for thousands of mansions all over the area.

 

[Anthony60]

What are you talking about that they can’t find anything criminal on Trump? They just had a civil action that they expanded into a grand jury panel. The hinderance finding anything indictable on Trump while he was Prez was that Barr and the Treasury Secretary played defense, blocking subpoenas of taxes and financial records.

Now that the SCOTUS is allowing those records, there is a million documents to comb through. I can assure you that there is ample evidence to put him away for many years — which is why he was willing to overthrow the government to stay president.

Meanwhile there is no evidence of criminality of Joe Biden. What the right wing is doing is stoking innuendo. Biden’s son, Hunter, sat on the board of Burisma Holdings, a natural gas company that Zlochevsky co-founded, at some points earning $50,000 a month. Zlochevsky might have thought he could ingratiate himself with the Obama administration by buying an association with the vice president. All available evidence suggests he was wrong. Joe Biden did nothing to help Zlochevsky or Burisma.

But just as the right tried to paint the Clinton Foundation as dirty, when it wasn’t, ignoring the actual sewer, the Trump Foundation, they are using the same playbook on Biden.

The NY AG said, before she was elected that she would use the powers of that office to investigate and prosecute President Trump. She had no evidence that Trump had done anything wrong, just promised to go after him because of hate. She is as corrupt as you get, and should resign. That is no way for an AG to act.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

The NY AG said, before she was elected that she would use the powers of that office to investigate and prosecute President Trump. She had no evidence that Trump had done anything wrong, just promised to go after him because of hate. She is as corrupt as you get, and should resign. That is no way for an AG to act.

God I hope she squeezes his balls off.

 

[Anthony60]

What was Joe Biden's 'involvement' in the business.

And afer four years of Trump and his kids selling access to the White House in about 1,000 different ways, I think we've kind of given up on that being a scandal. Not to mention, selling 'access' is why D.C. basically exists as a city, and pays for thousands of mansions all over the area.

Okay, so you are good with the VP selling his office, as long as it's a Democrat.

 

[dcsports]

Hunter Biden brought VP Joe to dinner with shady business partners

Joe Biden met with Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstani business associates of his son’s at a dinner in Washington, DC, while he was vice president, records on Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop show.
The dinner, on April 16, 2015, was held in the private “Garden Room” at Café Milano, a Georgetown institution whose catchphrase is: “Where the world’s most powerful people go.”
The next day, Hunter received an email from Vadym Pozharskyi, an executive of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, to thank him for introducing him to his father.
“Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together,” Pozharskyi wrote on April 17, 2015.
“It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

At the time, Burisma was paying Hunter $83,333 a month to sit on its board.

Hold on a second. Didn't Joe say he NEVER discussed his son's business with him? Did he just forget about selling his influence to them?

And a Grand Jury has been convened to try and dig up anything they can against Donald Trump.

Interesting. This came up before with regards to the emails on the Biden laptop... dismissed as 'fake news' 'how do we know it's his laptop'. 'email could be faked' etc.

Now I'm sure it will be dismissed for other reasons. People don't like the newspaper. No proof anything illegal happened, etc.

It's clear that Joe Biden lied about having no knowledge of his son's business dealings (obvious given that his lips were moving). Clear that it was a big conflict of interest. His supporters don't care.

 

[Anthony60]

God I hope she squeezes his balls off.

Love the intelligent debate. Anywho, any problem at all with an AG targeting someone they don't like, for political gain? Or is that all good in this country now?

 

[Callen]

The NY AG said, before she was elected that she would use the powers of that office to investigate and prosecute President Trump. She had no evidence that Trump had done anything wrong, just promised to go after him because of hate. She is as corrupt as you get, and should resign. That is no way for an AG to act.

I agree it was an inappropriate thing to say but it is odd to see a Trump supporter criticize her for something the President of the United States did almost daily, threatening those he perceived as his enemies because they weren't loyal to him.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Love the intelligent debate. Anywho, any problem at all with an AG targeting someone they don't like, for political gain? Or is that all good in this country now?

Yes! I just don’t agree with you that a shady real estate huckster that’s already defrauded students to his school and charities isn’t a prime target for a criminal investigation without any political biases.

Trump is a criminal. It’s your burden to pretend your votes cleansed him of being who he is for 70 years.

 

[Anthony60]

I agree it was an inappropriate thing to say but it is odd to see a Trump supporter criticize her for something the President of the United States did almost daily, threatening those he perceived as his enemies because they weren't loyal to him.

Not even close to the same thing, sorry.

 

[Callen]

It's clear that Joe Biden lied about having no knowledge of his son's business dealings (obvious given that his lips were moving). Clear that it was a big conflict of interest. His supporters don't care.

What makes it clear? There is absolutely nothing in that article or email that demonstrates Biden was in any way involved with his son's business or had a conflict of interest. It is pure specualtion.

 

[Anthony60]

Yes! I just don’t agree with you that a shady real estate huckster that’s already defrauded students to his school and charities isn’t a prime target for a criminal investigation without any political biases.

Trump is a criminal. It’s your burden to pretend your votes cleansed him of being who he is for 70 years.

Bit of a nonsensical response. You good with the AG targeting people because of who they are? Seems that you are.

 

[Callen]

Not even close to the same thing, sorry.

Yes, you are right. The NY AG had good reasons to investigate Trump. Trump had no good reason for threatening his "enemies" by using his political powers.

 

[Anthony60]

What makes it clear? There is absolutely nothing in that article or email that demonstrates Biden was in any way involved with his son's business or had a conflict of interest. It is pure specualtion.

OMG! He went to a dinner to meet with his BUSINESS contacts. How is that not related to Hunter's business??? Holy crap!

 

[Anthony60]

Yes, you are right. The NY AG had good reasons to investigate Trump. Trump had no good reason for threatening his "enemies" by using his political powers.

Already established that she had absolutely no reason.

 

[MTAtech]

The NY AG said, before she was elected that she would use the powers of that office to investigate and prosecute President Trump. She had no evidence that Trump had done anything wrong, just promised to go after him because of hate. She is as corrupt as you get, and should resign. That is no way for an AG to act.

After Michael Cohen testified under oath about the illegal activities the Trump Organization routinely committed and the blockbuster journalistic reporting by the NY Times regarding Trump activities, Attorney General Letitia James would be derelict of her duties not to investigate:

• Any potential illegalities involving Trump's real estate holdings in New York, highlighting a New York Times investigation published in October into the president's finances.
• The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian official.
• Examine government subsidies Trump received, which were also the subject of Times investigative work.
• Whether he is in violation of the emoluments clause in the U.S. Constitution through his New York businesses.

As you know, James shutdown the Trump Foundation because it was found to be nothing but a slush fund for Trump's personal expenses.

 

[dcsports]

What makes it clear? There is absolutely nothing in that article or email that demonstrates Biden was in any way involved with his son's business or had a conflict of interest. It is pure specualtion.

He said he didn't know anything about his son's business dealings. Given that he had dinner with his son's business partners, that's a lie. If you think they only discussed food insecurity, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.

 

[dcsports]

After Michael Cohen testified under oath about the illegal activities the Trump Organization routinely committed and the blockbuster journalistic reporting by the NY Times regarding Trump activities, Attorney General Letitia James would be derelict of her duties not to investigate:

• Any potential illegalities involving Trump's real estate holdings in New York, highlighting a New York Times investigation published in October into the president's finances.
• The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian official.
• Examine government subsidies Trump received, which were also the subject of Times investigative work.
• Whether he is in violation of the emoluments clause in the U.S. Constitution through his New York businesses.

As you know, James shutdown the Trump Foundation because it was found to be nothing but a slush fund for Trump's personal expenses.

Nope. That's wrong. She can investigate potential violations of state law - not US law. That nullifies all but the first bullet. Worth noting that the emoluments clause of the constitution would be through congress - and he's out of office, making that a moot point. Are you suggesting another impeachment?

It's a fishing trip, looking for a crime, and likely an abuse of the power of the AG office.

 

[Callen]

He said he didn't know anything about his son's business dealings. Given that he had dinner with his son's business partners, that's a lie. If you think they only discussed food insecurity, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.

Like I said ......speculation.

 

[MaryP]

The bitch that thus poster admires just disrespected our service men on Memorial Day weekend. Read all bout it!

Your habit of not sharing a link is very frustrating, and no-- if you can't be bothered to back up your statement, I sure can't be bothered to go hunting for it.

 

[Callen]

Already established that she had absolutely no reason.

She is investigating Trump's business taxes and Trump's NY State personal income tax. Those issues were on the table at the time she made the statement. The statement was inappropriate in my view but her reasons are not inappropriate at all.

 

[MTAtech]

Nope. That's wrong. She can investigate potential violations of state law - not US law. That nullifies all but the first bullet. Worth noting that the emoluments clause of the constitution would be through congress - and he's out of office, making that a moot point. Are you suggesting another impeachment?

It's a fishing trip, looking for a crime, and likely an abuse of the power of the AG office.

Those are the items she outlined when elected. The Michael Cohen testimony points to insurance, tax and financial fraud.

The AG would have to wear blinders not to investigate Trump after the Cohen testimony.

 

[TomFitz]

After Michael Cohen testified under oath about the illegal activities the Trump Organization routinely committed and the blockbuster journalistic reporting by the NY Times regarding Trump activities, Attorney General Letitia James would be derelict of her duties not to investigate:

• Any potential illegalities involving Trump's real estate holdings in New York, highlighting a New York Times investigation published in October into the president's finances.
• The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian official.
• Examine government subsidies Trump received, which were also the subject of Times investigative work.
• Whether he is in violation of the emoluments clause in the U.S. Constitution through his New York businesses.

As you know, James shutdown the Trump Foundation because it was found to be nothing but a slush fund for Trump's personal expenses.

Don’t forget the investigation into where all the money went from the Trump Inaugral Committee, and the sudden influx of donations from Russians in the week leading up to the event.

Or James’ NRA action. They’ll be plenty of Russians in that story. (Which will lead to Mitch McConnell).

 

[gbg3]

Yeah, it is. Indeed, the whole meme is.

This is a claim made by a crank working for Murdoch, and is clearly a PR piece to promote an upcoming book, one which will be marketed directly to you through the right wing trash web sites Trumpster still think are new, and on right wing talk radio.

And it’s a way to keep the Hunter Biden meme alive in wingnut world.

Keeping the meme alive is far more important than whether it’s true or not/

When you get your news from a tabloid, you shouldn’t expect much in the way of real news. Of course, we all know that the TRump crowd doesn’t want real news, they want to be outraged, tittilated, and validated. News need not intrude.

Of course, Donald Trump had dinner with shady characters on a more or less regular basis. His sons met with Russians spies.

What meme are you talking about?