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Thirteen people, including a 3-year-old boy, were shot on the South Side Thursday night.
According to the Chicago Police the shooting happened in the 1800 block of W 51st street in the Back of the Yards neighborhood and appears to be gang related.
Chicago Fire officials called an Emergency Medical Services Plan II, sending at least 10 ambulances to the scene and transported 10 people and the child to area hospitals.
One man drove himself to Little Company of Mary Hospital and was treated and released police said.
Police later said a total of 13 people were shot, the boy, two teens, and 10 adults, with the 3-year-old boy the most seriously wounded in critical condition.
The boy suffered a gunshot wound to the head and is at Mount Sinai Hospital.
Family members tell the Chicago Tribune the boy’s name is Deonta’ Howard.
Deonta’–pronounced Deontay–nicknamed Tay Man, has a dislike for haircuts, one cousin said.
“He didn’t like haircuts because he has a big head,” said Porsche Chester, a cousin of the boy’s. “But he is extremely smart. He didn’t have that (head) for nothing.”
Chicago Police continue to investigate and nobody is in custody for the shooting.
Check back for updates.

  • The 3-year-old boy, shot in the ear, in critical condition at Mount Sinai;
  • A 17-year-old girl, shot in the foot, condition stabilized at Holy Cross Hospital;
  • A 15-year-old boy shot in the arm, stabilized at Holy Cross;
  • A man, 27, shot in the leg and wrist, serious condition at Mount Sinai;
  • A man, 24, shot twice in the stomach, serious condition at Mount Sinia;
  • A man, 21, shot in the leg, serious condition at Mount Sinai;
  • A man, 41, shot in the buttocks, serious condition at John H. Stroger Jr. Hospital;
  • A woman, 33, shot in the shoulder, condition stabilized at Northwestern Memorial Hospital;
  • A man, 31, shot in the buttocks, condition stabilized at Northwestern;
  • A woman, 23, shot in the foot, condition stabilized at St. Anthony Hospital;
  • A man, 37, shot in the leg, in good condition at Stroger;
  • A man, 25, shot in the knee, in good condition at Northwestern;
  • And a man, 33, who drove himself to Little Company of Mary Hospital in Evergreen Park with a gunshot wound to the leg and who was treated and released.

And the beat goes on.



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Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

We should give guns to 3 year olds!
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Yeah, I knew it wouldn't take long to be put up into the news. 13 Shot.....none dead yet. Although the 3 year yr old might not make it. No suspect in custody and no idea as to what the shooter looks like.


Immediately the Cops stated it may be gang related.

Still it is Chicago and with the Strictest gun laws in the country. I figured the Anti Gun Nuts would be all over this. Wheres Gabby? :doh
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Yeah, I knew it wouldn't take long to be put up into the news. 13 Shot.....none dead yet. Although the 3 year yr old might not make it.


Poor little baby boy, my thoughts are with him to get better then get the hell outta there.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

We should give guns to 3 year olds!

lets take guns away from law bidding citizens this way only criminals and the government have them. is that you logic is that what you anti gun nuts pass on as common sense?
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Poor little baby boy, my thoughts are with him to get better then get the hell outta there.

Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

lets take guns away from law bidding citizens this way only criminals and the government have them. is that you logic is that what you anti gun nuts pass on as common sense?

Would you say I'm a cashew or an almond?
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Yesterday in beautiful Chicago in FOUR Hours 18 people were shot!! In the 60's the cops were accused of brutality, that has now changed to gang brutality. Can this be fixed or will the number continue to soar? What good does talking about this do?
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??

That's the million dollar question. I know it can be hard to break out of that lifestyle but as you said if you have children or simply just fed up with it, there is absolutely no reason you cannot leave town, go live in a shelter in another city, and work your ass up and out of that life. It's hard but in no way impossible.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.
. My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??

Fear is the prime motivator. When gangs shoot they seldom aim that is why so many innocents are hit including kids sitting in the homes. Not long ago a "rule" spread around cities to never turn in anyone regardless of the crime. I don''t know how that worked out but looking at Chicago I would guess not very well. This is why these areas are breeding grounds for gangs. A child tries to grow up in the bucket of **** only to join the gang.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Would you say I'm a cashew or an almond?

We all know historically Communists don't won't people to have guns. ;) Messes up their whole objective.

Besides, criminals don't care about or abide by laws of any sort.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

I heard a really good report on NPR about how violent crime is going up because El Chapo Guzman has set up Chicago as the Sinaloa Cartel's "hub" for their midwest drug distribution network.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??

Because they're at the mercy of the criminals and they know it. Because they would stand the chance of being prosecuted for defending themselves or for taking any kind of provocative action against the gangbangers in their neighborhoods. SOME people would rather we tolerate them. It also wouldn't be surprising if some law enforcement officials are bought and paid for by gangsters. Would YOU trust your local law enforcement? These people who are caught in these war zones don't know who to trust IMO.

Also, many poor people don't have the luxury to just up and move. A lot of them are stuck in these situations without many opportunities afforded to them as far as living arrangements go.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??

If that is the world you are born into you may not realize what a horrible place it is. Most of these people don't leave a ten block area in their whole lives.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

We all know historically Communists don't won't people to have guns. ;) Messes up their whole objective.

You can chill out, I'm a libertarian now. :lol:
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Fear is the prime motivator. When gangs shoot they seldom aim that is why so many innocents are hit including kids sitting in the homes. Not long ago a "rule" spread around cities to never turn in anyone regardless of the crime. I don''t know how that worked out but looking at Chicago I would guess not very well. This is why these areas are breeding grounds for gangs. A child tries to grow up in the bucket of **** only to join the gang.

I'm starting to think we need a war on gangs, just being in one should land you in prison. They are criminal organizations and threaten the well being of this country as much as terrorist.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??

IMHO, it is that they fear being in pretty much the same situation elsewhere (remember that this all they know) yet will lack their current extended family and friends. They may well know who are committing these acts of violence but fear that breaking the code of silence (the no "snitching" rule) will be the end of them and their immediate family. You must also remember that the media consrantly hypes the prevalence of white on black crimel, so they may actually think that things are bad everywhere.

The educational system may also play a part; if they have children that are "doing well" in these substandard schools it would be quite a shock to have them find out that they are at least a grade level (or two) behind reality in most other areas of the country. I think that you may be right about fear of the unknown, or the realization that they may go from average to well below average in another area, keeps them from fleeing even these teriible living conditions.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

I heard a really good report on NPR about how violent crime is going up because El Chapo Guzman has set up Chicago as the Sinaloa Cartel's "hub" for their midwest drug distribution network.


I heard that also and I've heard another city in IL as well, can't think of the name he said but starts with a "P". Supposedly Guzmans nephew has been stationed there and they mean business.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

If that is the world you are born into you may not realize what a horrible place it is. Most of these people don't leave a ten block area in their whole lives.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a client, Nate. He was a black man working (thru affirmative action) for a large Fortune 500 company. He told me he'd enlisted in the service at 17 because he knew that if he didn't "get out" he'd be dead or in prison before he was 25. We talked about his life and his neighborhood frequently. When I mentioned that we were lucky these gang bangers stayed in their own neighborhoods and didn't ride out to the suburbs, he said the reason they'd never do that is because they think every neighborhood has gang bangers, even the 'burbs.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

I'm starting to think we need a war on gangs, just being in one should land you in prison. They are criminal organizations and threaten the well being of this country as much as terrorist.

I don't understand how it isn't already classified as terrorism.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Poor little baby boy, my thoughts are with him to get better then get the hell outta there.

Mornin AW.
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The other question people were asking, what was a 3yr old doing out in the park that late at nite. Knowing the neighborhood for what it is.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

I don't understand how it isn't already classified as terrorism.

All I know is that if that **** were happening in most any suburb around the city of Chicago? The National Guard would be called out . . . martial law would be declared . . . and they'd be kickin' ass all over the county until it stopped.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Mornin AW.
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The other question people were asking, what was a 3yr old doing out in the park that late at nite. Knowing the neighborhood for what it is.

Morning to you as well, sorry to hear more sad news about your lovely city. Yeah and I'm sure the same people who had him at the park are the same ones crying out why it happened.
 

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