Ben K.
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Remember that I don't believe in Love. I never have and probably never will. I believe in two things: Right and Wrong. Beyond that there is nothing.
I hope your children don't disappoint you the way I did my father, but I suspect some will. Prepare yourself, Tigger.
I would imagine she would benefit greatly from being raised by such clearly superior people. Being raised by knuckle-dragging Taliban parents is a curse I would not wish on any girl.
You just stated that a woman's role is to love her family. So why does it matter that she fills a role you don't believe in?
Yep. Those superior parents who would have less than no time for her, leave her mostly to raise herself, and not be involved in anything she does.
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Remember that I don't believe in Love. I never have and probably never will. I believe in two things: Right and Wrong. Beyond that there is nothing.
And you're getting married.... why?
. In more than 2 years we've had a grand total of 3 serious arguements, all of which were worked out within a matter of two hours or less.
No, I said her job is to support her family, and especially her Husband. Love is irrelevant to the concept, and if I did mention that idea, it was in total error.
Tigger said:It is her greatest achievement to create a home where her husband and family feel comfortable, loved, and supported.
That's an awfully quick response there at your local emergency unit. How many stitches were required each time?
Must have been a Freudian slip, you big softie.
How should we be raising our daughters these days?
Should we try to instill independence, strength, common sense, confidence, perseverance, self worth, and a strong desire to achieve great things?
Or should we raise them to be dependent, submissive, shy, and always in need of protection? Wallflowers?
Should we push them towards greatness?
Or should we teach them that their place is always in the background?
Should we have a desire for them to be the leader, the captain, the driver?
Or should we teach them to accept always being the passenger, along for the ride but never making the decisions or steering the boat?
Should we raise our daughters as achievers? CEO's? Entrepreneurs? Bosses?
Or should we raise them to be followers?
Should we tell our daughters they can be ANYTHING they wish to be? Whether it be a mother of 5 kids, or the scientist that cures cancer while stationed on Mars after having piloted the first mission to Mars?
Or should we tell our daughters their place is to be a good, quiet, and submissive "second" to their spouse?
Should we raise your daughters to be strong?
Or are they to be weak and defenseless?
How do you think our daughters should be raised today?
Obviously you were looking for an argument when you posted this thread. Don't get upset when someone comes along and disagrees with you. Look at your poll, you were spoiling for an argument from the get go.
Change every instance of "daughters" in your post to "sons". Would your questions be more...or less...valid?
I voted "no different than how we raise our sons", but then...I had two sons and no daughters, so what do I know?
How should we be raising our daughters these days?
Should we try to instill independence, strength, common sense, confidence, perseverance, self worth, and a strong desire to achieve great things?
Or should we raise them to be dependent, submissive, shy, and always in need of protection? Wallflowers?
Should we push them towards greatness?
Or should we teach them that their place is always in the background?
Should we have a desire for them to be the leader, the captain, the driver?
Or should we teach them to accept always being the passenger, along for the ride but never making the decisions or steering the boat?
Should we raise our daughters as achievers? CEO's? Entrepreneurs? Bosses?
Or should we raise them to be followers?
Should we tell our daughters they can be ANYTHING they wish to be? Whether it be a mother of 5 kids, or the scientist that cures cancer while stationed on Mars after having piloted the first mission to Mars?
Or should we tell our daughters their place is to be a good, quiet, and submissive "second" to their spouse?
Should we raise your daughters to be strong?
Or are they to be weak and defenseless?
How do you think our daughters should be raised today?
My fiance and I are well-matched both physically and philosophically. We come from different backgrounds but have very similar views of the world, relationships, and meet each other's needs/compliment each others strenghts and weaknesses. We get along incredibly well. In more than 2 years we've had a grand total of 3 serious arguements, all of which were worked out within a matter of two hours or less.
How sad that the word love doesn't play into it.
Some people obviously think girls should be raised differently.
Some people don't think girls should have equal opportunity to chase dreams like boys do.
It's not just Tigger. My own mother-in-law once told my oldest daughter she should not go to college, and that what she should really do is get married and start a family. I almost lost my cool over that and started a massive family dispute. Almost.
Oldest daughter will be graduating college in May with just under a 4.0 gpa in biology.
Still waiting on replies from medical grad schools at this time.
#1) You do realize this IS a debate forum right?
#2) Where am I upset?
#3) I could have posted Tigger's response for him. I knew that was coming. Not a surprise to anyone who knows Tigger. Just waiting to see what others post now.
What's your point of view on raising daughters?
My daughter is a college educated liberal.
Pack her a bag, show her the door, take the keys, then remove her from the health insurance and my will. She can go and move in with her Uncle Steven and Aunt Cyndi who both hold doctorates in Genetic Microbiology.
I feel for you. Do you tell people? Or just make up some story about how she's not a liberal, you swear, she just ran away and joined the circus / works for the mafia beating up children / something less embarrassing than being a college liberal?
American and I know each other. I'm pretty sure that he knows that my feelings at his shame of having raised a left-winger are nothing but heartfelt sympathy. I have three children myself, and the odds are that I, too, will fail in such a horrific manner with at least one of them.
These are some sick, disgusting, and blatantly misogynistic views, Tigger.
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