See, now, it's not actually malarky, it's basically proper flirting, would you rather have the playful guy teasing you, or the dweeb trying to shove free drinks down your throat.
Precisely... this is a 'side-effect' of the feminist movement that essentially has put any masculine characteristic as 'chauvinist', and so now a large portion of guys are complete chumps... many of them could kick my arse but they are still chumps.
So, because men have unlearned how to be men and suffer a lack of success in dating it doesn't surprise me that these types of schemes have come out, and looking at some of the price tags to 'learn' with them shows that there's a demand for the knowledge of what makes a mature masculine man... even though I'm sure many of these just talk about 'tricks' and techniques to get women to talk to you, date you or get naked in your bed.
The fact that some yahoo's are trying to make bank of the game is irrelevant to the fact of what is and what is not good methods of attracting folk.
Humans have lasted this long without classes on how to meet women... I would personally advocate trial and error and to stay congruent with yourself... I don't mean the lame-ass dr. Phil type of 'be yourself' advice that's useless to a guy whose been 'himself' as a chump for years with no successes... I mean more the confident (almost cocky) version of yourself... this way you don't need to sit and think 'oh what do I say and what do I say if she responds like ____'... I had to learn (being a geek through high school) for myself that if you grab the courage sack and approach your brain will usually back you up with something to say... even if the first few (hundred?) times is just 'ummm ... errr... ummmm... hi.... ummm... errr... ummm... you're... ummm... cute.... errr... are you ... ummm... friendly?"
Playfully flirting is not the same as using "strategies" designed to undermine womens' confidence so you can **** them more easily.
Unless the strategy IS to be playfully flirting.
It all depends... sometimes a woman thinks so high and mighty of herself that she needs to be taken down a peg to remember that she still poops like everyone else, and I do agree that if that's the guys big ace in the hole is to use the neghits as they call it, then it's a lost cause anyway and it's only a matter of time before the guy exposes himself as a douchebag a**hole.
That's just sad and pathetic. Women are people. Treat us accordingly, and you won't have many issues.
Generally I agree with you... but some women are so used to having guys humping their legs that they get this egotistic shield of b*tchiness, so SOMETIMES you NEED to do something like that, not as a 'strategy' but just for them to lower the shield long enough to get the chance to talk to them as another human.
But in terms of a 'strategy'... generally the women that would respond positively to undermining her confidence in these ways have other issues that wouldn't appeal to a 'normal' guy.
Also, speaking of sad and pathetic:
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That's why I responded... Mystery's gotta be the biggest joke out there... did you ever read any of the crap this guy tries to sell???
I don't know ANYONE that could take any of this guys lines and make it work. Oh and palm reading to pick up women is just pathetic... unless you're legitimately into that on your own terms.
Never paid that guy a cent, but at one point I read through his website and the whole thing is a sick joke with a bunch of broken men working out 'strategies' to pick up equally broken women. Maybe if half these guys spent say 6 months to work on themselves rather then working on getting girls there wouldn't be such a demand to pay 2000+$ to hang out with these losers for a weekend.