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The 'experiment' of which you speak was conducted with tens of thousands of clinical trial volunteers around the world, before vaccines were approved. No conspiracy, and no more side effects than many medicines. Let me guess, you weren't vaccinated.not on the Covid vax, it kept it's 'experimental' class and flies under the radar for good reason.
we can do a whole thousand threads on that one and it's effects on those who have taken it. i did the Swine flue vax years earlier and almost died, finally a Doctor fessed up about what is happening.
he said the next one will kill you.
others were not so lucky, they are no longer with us.
yeah, 'experimental' vax........you the guinea pig...........groan.
Um, your refutation of the first fact is not "long after" but during the incubation period. Fact checking compares data against more reliable sources. What makes a source more reliable? The duration of research, expert peer reviews, findings that have been substantiated by multiple sources, etc. Fact checking is the opposite of bullshit. Most of what we are told by Trump's administration is bullshit.The "fact checking" business is compete bullshit.
Those people don't have better training or special skills to determine better if something is true or false. Also, their first claim is wrong and easily found with one Google search:
That website said this wasn't true:
Persistently Replicating COVID Viruses in Colon Tissue
Actually it is true:
During the incubation period, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) can be detected in the rectum of patients. Typical SARS-CoV-2 virions in the intestinal epithelial cells under electron microscopy were observed, which provided direct evidence of active SARS-CoV-2 replication in the intestine.
Direct Evidence of Active SARS-CoV-2 Replication in the Intestine - PMC
Currently, there is no direct evidence to prove the active replication of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in the intestinal tract and relevant pathological changes in the colon and rectum. We investigated the presence of ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Seriously? You are saying that even after I showed your "fact check" contained inaccurate information? Can you comment specifically on that?Um, your refutation of the first fact is not "long after" but during the incubation period. Fact checking compares data against more reliable sources. What makes a source more reliable? The duration of research, expert peer reviews, findings that have been substantiated by multiple sources, etc. Fact checking is the opposite of bullshit. Most of what we are told by Trump's administration is bullshit.
You may want to get better at vetting your sources.
I already commented on your refutation and its inaccuracy... Reading is fundamental.Seriously? You are saying that even after I showed your "fact check" contained inaccurate information? Can you comment specifically on that?
Well your post was pretty vague so I wasn't sure what you were talking about. I have no idea what this means as your attempt at refuting it:I already commented on your refutation and its inaccuracy... Reading is fundamental.
Your "fact check" underplays the substantial body of research that supports viral persistence in the colon and its potential health consequences which do align with Soon-Shiong’s concerns about immune system impacts and rising cancer rates in young people.I already commented on your refutation and its inaccuracy... Reading is fundamental.
I only read the abstract; my mistake - I'm now on my lunch break reading further. The study concludes with, "further studies with large sample sizes are needed." This supports the fact check rating of 2 out of 4 veracity and their conclusion, "The claim that persistently replicating COVID viruses have been identified in the colon tissue of young people long after infection is not fully supported by current scientific evidence."Your "fact check" underplays the substantial body of research that supports viral persistence in the colon and its potential health consequences which do align with Soon-Shiong’s concerns about immune system impacts and rising cancer rates in young people.
The study I posted showed Covid and antigens persisting in gastrointestinal tissues for up to 180 days post-infection.
This 2022 study found Covid in the gut mucosa of IBD patients 94–257 days post-infection:
Long COVID is characterized SARS-CoV-2 antigen persistence in the gut mucosa - Worlds Family Medicine
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) that has broughtwfamilymedicine.com
This study shows viral RNA in 31% of biopsy specimens from the duodenum, ileum, and colon, and autopsy studies showing viral RNA in extrapulmonary tissues up to 230 days post-infection:
Post-mortem viral dynamics and tropism in COVID-19 patients in correlation with organ damage - PMC
The persistence of SARS-CoV-2 after death of infected individuals is unclear. The aim of this study was to investigate the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in different organs in correlation with tissue damage and post-mortem viral dynamics in COVID-19 ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This study shows the gut’s role noting that intestinal enterocytes have the highest expression of ACE2 receptors, making them a prime target for SARS-CoV-2 persistence and potential replication:
It Ain’t Over 'Til It's Over: SARS CoV-2 and Post-infectious Gastrointestinal Dysmotility - Digestive Diseases and Sciences
The ongoing pandemic resulting from severe acute respiratory syndrome—caused by coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)—has posed a multitude of healthcare challenges of unprecedented proportions. Intestinal enterocytes have the highest expression of angiotensin-converting enzyme-2 (ACE2), which functions as...link.springer.com
But your list says otherwise...No, you can see from the list that the poorest states are overwhelmingly not the most racially diverse.
Numerous states in the US already ban this.
BPS is a chemical cousin of BPA, linked to reproductive harm, metabolic disruption, and cancer.
But your list says otherwise...
Weird.
Yes...My list? Which list?
You're making stuff up.
Weird.
Poverty rate by state or territory, 2016-2020
State or territory Population Population under
poverty line Poverty rate
Puerto Rico 3,227,457 1,400,958 43.41%
Mississippi 2,883,074 564,439 19.58%
Louisiana 4,532,187 845,230 18.65%
New Mexico 2,053,909 381,026 18.55%
West Virginia 1,755,591 300,152 17.10%
Kentucky 4,322,881 717,895 16.61%
Arkansas 2,923,585 470,190 16.08%
Alabama 4,771,614 762,642 15.98%
District of Columbia 669,089 103,391 15.45%
Oklahoma 3,833,712 585,520 15.27%
South Carolina 4,950,181 726,470 14.68%
Tennessee 6,603,468 965,213 14.62%
Georgia 10,238,369 1,461,572 14.28%
Texas 28,013,446 3,984,260
As of 2020 via: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Community_Survey
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What a crock. The covid vaccine is fully FDA approved. Most the dead from covid were the unvaccinated ones. Being allergic to vaccines is a real bummer and very rare. I am sorry for you.not on the Covid vax, it kept it's 'experimental' class and flies under the radar for good reason.
we can do a whole thousand threads on that one and it's effects on those who have taken it. i did the Swine flue vax years earlier and almost died, finally a Doctor fessed up about what is happening.
he said the next one will kill you.
others were not so lucky, they are no longer with us.
yeah, 'experimental' vax........you the guinea pig...........groan.
The ingredients in the Covid vaccine are readily available for the asking. Did you know that?Nola, there are ingredients not listed.
it is the same with pharmaceuticals, such as the covid vax, did you get full disclosure and ingredients on that?
probably not, and they don't want you to know........ever. with the experimental vax, the insert had nothing written on it, it was a blank sheet.
how about GMO? do you know what is GMO, should you care what is GMO?
yes you should, but no info. GMO is toxic to the body, especially corn GMO. what do we know about that? virtually nothing...
Why Should We Be Concerned About Secret Ingredients?
The fact that not all ingredients are disclosed on labels can be a cause for concern, especially for people with dietary restrictions or those looking to avoid specific additives like sugar, gluten, or preservatives. What’s even more alarming is that many of these hidden ingredients could have an effect on your health without you realizing it. https://thirtysomethingsupermom.com/secret-ingredients-not-listed-on-the-food-label/
Yes...
I think this shows pretty clearly my point...
Rural, more diverse states tend to be poorer. It's not the only two factors that determine a states economy, obviously, but you have pointed out a trend.
For sure rural, diverse states went for Trump, and they have poorer outcomes for any metric anyone could list - but this is true under every administration in modern history. Literally no president has made things better for them. It just keeps getting worse, statistically speaking.Yes, I have. One that screws a group that pumped heavily for Trump.
For sure rural, diverse states went for Trump, and they have poorer outcomes for any metric anyone could list - but this is true under every administration in modern history. Literally no president has made things better for their al
It just keeps getting worse, statistically speaking.
Like the cancerous monkey kidney cells SV40?The ingredients in the Covid vaccine are readily available for the asking. Did you know that?
I’ll post the facts for you once and only once about this misleading bs-not that it will matter to the MAGATS of LALALAND. Remember: this isn’t about the contaminated lots of IPV. As I said, the ingredients in the Covid vaccines are readily available for the asking.Like the cancerous monkey kidney cells SV40?
Life expectancy, income inequality, healthcare outcomes, teenage pregnancy, GDP per capita...Really? LOL.
Worse in what way? Which statistics?
The Associated Press?I’ll post the facts for you once and only once about this misleading bs-not that it will matter to the MAGATS of LALALAND. Remember: this isn’t about the contaminated lots of IPV. As I said, the ingredients in the Covid vaccines are readily available for the asking.
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CLAIM: Vaccine ingredients include “monkey kidneys” and “aborted fetal cells.”
AP’S ASSESSMENT: Misleading. Those are not vaccine ingredients. Researchers have used cell lines derived from cells taken decades ago from fetuses and monkeys to grow viruses necessary to create some vaccines, but the viruses are purified.
THE FACTS: Misconceptions about vaccines have persisted for years, long before COVID-19 shots became the subject of persistent myths.
An Instagram post is relaying misunderstandings about vaccine production by claiming that “monkey kidneys” and “aborted fetal cells” are “ingredients” in an unspecified vaccine.
“V recipe,” text in the image reads, next to a syringe graphic. “Monkey kidneys, aborted fetal cells, fetal bovine serum, polysorbate 80, formaldehyd, thimerosal.”
Post misleads on vaccine ‘ingredients’
Misleading. Those are not vaccine ingredients. Researchers have used cell lines derived from cells taken decades ago from fetuses and monkeys to grow viruses necessary to create some vaccines, but the viruses are purified.apnews.com
"RebelNews".....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLThe Associated Press?Check out this big pharma advertising I mean article:
It's time to roll up sleeves for new COVID, flu shots
Fall means it’s time for just about everybody to get up to date on their flu and COVID-19 vaccines. A lot of older adults also need protection against another risky winter virus, RSV.apnews.com
In regards to SV40 being in the Covid vaccine(it was also in the polio vaccine that 98 million people got):
The peer-reviewed findings confirm the presence of significant residual DNA, including the controversial SV40 promoter, in Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine, igniting further concern around the long-term risks, transmissibility, and potential gene therapy implications that regulators fail to address.
Science confirms SV40 DNA in Pfizer’s COVID shot, validating concerns over unexplored genetic health risks
A recent peer-reviewed study led by three German researchers has confirmed the presence of significant amounts of residual DNA, including the controversial SV40 promoter, in Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine vials.www.rebelnews.com
Study:
Like the cancerous monkey kidney cells SV40?
I’ll post the facts for you once and only once about this misleading bs-not that it will matter to the MAGATS of LALALAND. Remember: this isn’t about the contaminated lots of IPV. As I said, the ingredients in the Covid vaccines are readily available for the asking.
“
CLAIM: Vaccine ingredients include “monkey kidneys” and “aborted fetal cells.”
AP’S ASSESSMENT: Misleading. Those are not vaccine ingredients. Researchers have used cell lines derived from cells taken decades ago from fetuses and monkeys to grow viruses necessary to create some vaccines, but the viruses are purified.
THE FACTS: Misconceptions about vaccines have persisted for years, long before COVID-19 shots became the subject of persistent myths.
An Instagram post is relaying misunderstandings about vaccine production by claiming that “monkey kidneys” and “aborted fetal cells” are “ingredients” in an unspecified vaccine.
“V recipe,” text in the image reads, next to a syringe graphic. “Monkey kidneys, aborted fetal cells, fetal bovine serum, polysorbate 80, formaldehyd, thimerosal.”
Post misleads on vaccine ‘ingredients’
Misleading. Those are not vaccine ingredients. Researchers have used cell lines derived from cells taken decades ago from fetuses and monkeys to grow viruses necessary to create some vaccines, but the viruses are purified.apnews.com
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