How should we view the South African situation today?

[Virgil Jones]

Your own source admits that your claims are meaningless.

Just like your bull**** claims about MLK.

My own source concludes that Mandela was a communist

 

[Tigerace117]

Your party of (slaver thugs) would not meet with my party's president Abraham Lincoln and you cannot see what you are saying?

Actually, your fellow white supremacist claimed the exact opposite.

Slick was whining because Lincoln refused to meet with your slaver heroes.

Perhaps you should get some reading comprehension classes to go with remedial history ones.

 

[Tigerace117]

My own source concludes that Mandela was a communist

Your source concludes Mandela was not considered a communist by the late 1960s and that it had no effect on his governing.

Nice try though buddy :lamo

 

[Virgil Jones]

Actually, your fellow white supremacist claimed the exact opposite.

Slick was whining because Lincoln refused to meet with your slaver heroes.

Perhaps you should get some reading comprehension classes to go with remedial history ones.

So you are still imagining this mythical switch when democrats and republicans switched bodies or something? What evidence do you have of that?

 

[Tigerace117]

Socialists sending socialists to death camps does not raise an alarm bell?

Actually, it was conservatives sending socialists to the death camps. Perhaps you missed all of those "vons" on the list of Wehrmacht field marshals I provided.

The fact that you actually think the German aristocracy, which despised socialism, would actively side with it is truly laughable.

 

[Tigerace117]

So you are still imagining this mythical switch when democrats and republicans switched bodies or something? What evidence do you have of that?

Gee, just for starters? The fact that Republicans--- especially Trump cultists--- are fervent defenders of the Confederacy and have been for some time now

 

[Virgil Jones]

How are you and I going to continue to converse when you continue to use racist terms against me like (white supremacist)?

I used the word "Snowflake" a couple of days ago and was reprimanded. Is that what you call a debate?

 

[Virgil Jones]

Gee, just for starters? The fact that Republicans--- especially Trump cultists--- are fervent defenders of the Confederacy and have been for some time now

Trump only said there were good people on both sides of the debate about whether to remove the Democrat Confederate statues and erase the history of the democrat party. Why do you want your party's history erased so bad? Do you feel guilty that your party is the party of slavery, Jim Crowe, segregation, opposition to civil rights, and of course the KKK?

 

[Virgil Jones]

Actually, it was conservatives sending socialists to the death camps. Perhaps you missed all of those "vons" on the list of Wehrmacht field marshals I provided.

The fact that you actually think the German aristocracy, which despised socialism, would actively side with it is truly laughable.

The German aristocracy perhaps did despise socialism, but in the end they embraced Hitler (socialist) just to survive

 

[Virgil Jones]

Actually, it was conservatives sending socialists to the death camps. Perhaps you missed all of those "vons" on the list of Wehrmacht field marshals I provided.

The fact that you actually think the German aristocracy, which despised socialism, would actively side with it is truly laughable.

So you are arguing that "conservatives" sent "socialists" to the death camps because upper class Germans despised socialism, despite socialists being in charge (nazis). I guess I will have to sort that one out in due time.

 

[Tigerace117]

Trump only said there were good people on both sides of the debate about whether to remove the Democrat Confederate statues and erase the history of the democrat party. Why do you want your party's history erased so bad? Do you feel guilty that your party is the party of slavery, Jim Crowe, segregation, opposition to civil rights, and of course the KKK?

Yes, he claimed there were good Neo-Nazis and good white supremacists. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Considering how hysterically, laughably ignorant you have proven yourself on every other subject it's no surprise you double down here.

 

[Tigerace117]

The German aristocracy perhaps did despise socialism, but in the end they embraced Hitler (socialist) just to survive

:lamo

Again, the German aristocracy hated socialism like rat poison. The Nazis' fervent opposition to socialism and other left wing ideologies is what got German conservatives to back them in the first place.

 

[Tigerace117]

So you are arguing that "conservatives" sent "socialists" to the death camps because upper class Germans despised socialism, despite socialists being in charge (nazis). I guess I will have to sort that one out in due time.

A)Socialists were not in charge....they were the ones being sent to death camps.

B) Yes, Germans conservatives and the far right did commit those atrocities.

And it's pretty clear you aren't bright enough to sort it out judging from your previous posts.

 

[Virgil Jones]

:lamo

Again, the German aristocracy hated socialism like rat poison. The Nazis' fervent opposition to socialism and other left wing ideologies is what got German conservatives to back them in the first place.

National SOCIALIST German Worker Party. Let that sink in.

 

[Virgil Jones]

I remember something else about the Nazis (socialists). They favored big government control over corporations and private industry. They also favored political correctness (ie Goebbels). Remember him?

They also favored National Socialism. Remember that?

 

[Virgil Jones]

Yes, he claimed there were good Neo-Nazis and good white supremacists. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Considering how hysterically, laughably ignorant you have proven yourself on every other subject it's no surprise you double down here.

He said "there were good people on both sides"

 

[Virgil Jones]

He was referring to the idiotic campaign to destroy statues of democrats.

 

[Doc91478]

I guess you believed the communist Nelson Mandela would succeed?

South Africa Facing White Genocide, Total Communist Takeover
https://www.thenewamerican.com/worl...acing-white-genocide-total-communist-takeover
South Africa Facing White Genocide, Total Communist Takeover. The South African government, dominated by the communist-backed African National Congress (ANC), has responded to the surging wave of racist murders by denying the phenomenon, implausibly claiming that many of the attacks are simply regular crimes.

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Genocide Watch
http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html
Genocide Watch continues to be alarmed at hate crimes committed against whites, particularly against Boer farmers, an important early warning sign that genocide could occur. Those who commit such crimes must be promptly brought to justice, and denounced by the political leaders of South Africa.

~~~~~~~~~~~~​

Context Matters: Nelson Mandela and 'White Genocide' in ...
https://beinglibertarian.com/context-matters-nelson-mandela-white-genocide-south-africa/
And in South Africa, there is no white genocide. As one of my fellow libertarian friends, who happens to be black, Mpiyakhe Dhlamini recently correctly pointed out, the Suidlanders would not exist had there been a real, systematic genocide against white South Africans.... The fact of the matter is that black South Africans are being killed in the same violent way whites are, but they are being killed at far greater numbers. Violent crime in South Africa has made us the proud ‘Rape Capital of the World’, as well as a consistent contender for one of the top-5 spots in the highest per capita murder rate in the world. In 2015, for a population of around 55 million, we had 49 murders a day. If the majority of those murder victims were white South Africans, the white population would have ceased to exist years ago.... Our current government enjoys speaking out against the West, and the social justice advocates on our campuses think they are anti-Western, but ordinary, level-headed South Africans continue to embrace the idea of civilization, an orderly society, and freedom. And South Africans, black and white, are engaged in building a small, but visibly-growing libertarian movement which has no interest in seeing either the national socialism of Apartheid return, not the African socialism of the left continue to assert itself.

 

[Tigerace117]

He said "there were good people on both sides"

Yes, he claimed there were good Neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[Tigerace117]

National SOCIALIST German Worker Party. Let that sink in.

Again, by that standard North Korea would be a vibrant democracy.

Oh wait.........:roll:

 

[ThirdTerm]

White minority rule is unsustainable if every black person in Africa gets voting rights as a fundamental principle of a democratic country. Over 1 million South Africans have emigrated to the UK and Australia as a natural consequence of the transition to democratic rule. South Africa could maintain its colonial rule for so long because of the Cold War. Mandela was a Soviet agent backed by Moscow, which was why the West turned a blind eye to Apartheid.

 

[Virgil Jones]

Yes, he claimed there were good Neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

He was talking about the debate, good people were arguing for and against taking down statues. As for the people on the ground that day, I doubt there were any good people on the ground on either side. As for erasing our history, especially the rotten racist history of the democrat party, as evidenced by these statues of democrats, I say leave them up.

 

[Virgil Jones]

Again, by that standard North Korea would be a vibrant democracy.

Oh wait.........:roll:

It is not just the name that makes the Nazis left wing socialists. They advocated big government socialism, the takeover of private industries. They were slightly different from their close cousins in the USSR, in that they allowed owners of companies to in name only remain in charge, but the nazi government controlled those companies completely. There was very little difference from taking direct ownership of said industries and what the nazis did.

 

[Tigerace117]

White minority rule is unsustainable if every black person in Africa gets voting rights as a fundamental principle of a democratic country. Over 1 million South Africans have emigrated to the UK and Australia as a natural consequence of the transition to democratic rule. South Africa could maintain its colonial rule for so long because of the Cold War. Mandela was a Soviet agent backed by Moscow, which was why the West turned a blind eye to Apartheid.

:lamo

Yeah, that's why Mandela got rid of democracy and imposed a communist regime.......oh wait. Literally none of that happened.

The idiotic claim that Mandela was a "Soviet agent" is little more than a fantasy designed to let conservatives try to justify support of apartheid to themselves.

 

[Tigerace117]

He was talking about the debate, good people were arguing for and against taking down statues. As for the people on the ground that day, I doubt there were any good people on the ground on either side. As for erasing our history, especially the rotten racist history of the democrat party, as evidenced by these statues of democrats, I say leave them up.

Way to prove, yet again, how incredibly, pathological ignorant you are.

But since you are an apartheid fanboy I guess that's no surprise.