How should Americans celebrate Juneteenth?

[yankintx]

"They?" It represents the freedom of America from its institution of slavery.

When you consider the US was the last country in the West to ban slavery, the day requires reflection. I realize some here would rather ignore the scourge and scars of slavery on US history, for whatever reason, we should contemplate how far we have come from 1865.

 

[The Brad Dad]

See any copies of Huck Finn in your local school library?

Curitating and banning are two different activities.

Yes, school libraries across the country contain copies of Huck Finn. Just probably not in red state schools where they ban books.

 

[NatMorton]

Yes, school libraries across the country contain copies of Huck Finn. Just probably not in red state schools where they ban books.

Name one book a "red state" has banned.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Name one book a "red state" has banned.

Alice Walker’s The Color Purple.

 

[NatMorton]

Alice Walker’s The Color Purple.

What state has banned that book?

 

[The Brad Dad]

What state has banned that book?

Multiple.

 

[NatMorton]

Multiple.

I'm calling your bluff. I assert no state -- red or blue -- has banned that book. You're either making this up or simply don't understand what the verb "to ban" means.

 

[Citizen]

You have an interesting way of agreeing with me.
You're right. But as shown in Virginia, parents can have a say in the content of a curriculum.

As long as they paricipate in the school boards, their opinions will be considered. Some school boards allow a student on the board, but most of the power for choosing the curriculum comes from the state board od education.

 

[gman]

We’re not doing anything special. It’s just another day to do things around the house and get ready for some house guests later this month.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Happy Juneteenth everybody! I hope everyone is enjoying their day off or double pay day.

Juneteenth is a new federal holiday. How do you think Americans should be celebrating it?

The Options:

Picnic / BBQ - You celebrate it, just like the 4th of July or Memorial Day.
Go to Mass / Religious Service / Engage in prayer - You thank God for that America ended slavery and black people received full citizenship rights.
Watch a Documentary / TV Show / Film / Play about the Civil War - Celebrate the day by watching or reading something about the Civil War or Slavery.
Community Service - Volunteer at the local food shelter or soup kitchen.
Watch a movie / Documentary / TV Show / Play with mostly a black cast and crew - Doesn't have to be about the Civil War or Slavery. Honor black cinema.
Give a black person a high five - If you see a black people on the street give them a hug / high five and tell them to have a wonderful day.
A Moment of Silence - Before you eat your food, you give a moment to honor the person who were impacted by the American Civil War and Slavery.
Complain about the day - Do nothing and simply call it a Woke or DEI Day.
Do nothing - Treat like any other day.

Other. I went to work like any other day.

 

[stealthycat]

Not a "liberal" but yes, because he used to celebrate it - hell he even claimed personally to have made it famous.

So what do you think changed, other than he was just pandering before and is being hater now?

that's all - and Trump is busy yesterday or he'd have trolled liberal media into a frenzy again

he simply didn't have time to jerk their chains

 

[The Brad Dad]

I'm calling your bluff. I assert no state -- red or blue -- has banned that book. You're either making this up or simply don't understand what the verb "to ban" means.

So you’re saying Alice Walker’s The Color Purple hasn’t been banned anywhere in the United States? You sure?

 

[stealthycat]

Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t celebrate any holidays and don’t pledge the flag either

yeah I got no respect for that either, zero

 

[NatMorton]

So you’re saying Alice Walker’s The Color Purple hasn’t been banned anywhere in the United States? You sure?

You're stalling. Either you can back up your assertion or you cannot. Which is it?

 

[The Brad Dad]

You're stalling. Either you can back up your assertion or you cannot. Which is it?

Answer my question, please.

 

[NatMorton]

Answer my question, please.

You first. You made the assertion about book banning, not me.

BTW, I appreciate that you're new here, but this is weak sauce you're offering. If you make an assertion in an argument -- as you did -- it's on you to prove it. It's not on me to disprove it.

 

[The Brad Dad]

You first. You made the assertion about book banning, not me.

BTW, I appreciate that you're new here, but this is weak sauce you're offering. If you make an assertion in an argument -- as you did -- it's on you to prove it. It's not on me to disprove it.

You’re going to hinge your argument on my use of the word “state” vs” county”. I tried to give you the out but I guess not.

 

[NatMorton]

You’re going to hinge your argument on my use of the word “state” vs” county”. I tried to give you the out but I guess not.

No, you're welcome to provide a county -- or city -- or town -- or municipal administrative district. Your choice.

BTW, do these clumsy avoidance tactics ever work?

 

[The Brad Dad]

You first. You made the assertion about book banning, not me.

BTW, I appreciate that you're new here, but this is weak sauce you're offering. If you make an assertion in an argument -- as you did -- it's on you to prove it. It's not on me to disprove it.

Also, this would require a debate over the definition of other things. Desantis’s “explicit material” which, according to conservatives, is literally any mention of an LGTBQ person. I.e. just their existence is pornography as defined by right wing ideology. I personally reject that definition. By that score, I can certainly argue Florida, for instance, has banned books.

 

[NatMorton]

Also, this would require a debate over the definition of other things. Desantis’s “explicit material” which, according to conservatives, is literally any mention of an LGTBQ person. I.e. just their existence is pornography as defined by right wing ideology. I personally reject that definition. By that score, I can certainly argue Florida, for instance, has banned books.

Why don't you just acknowledge your assertion cannot be proved because ... get ready for it ... it's not true.

You've been caught bleating Progressive hyperbole, and we both know it.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Why don't you just acknowledge your assertion cannot be proved because ... get ready for it ... it's not true.

You've been caught bleating Progressive hyperbole, and we both know it.

No, what we know is your intimation that Huck Finn was banned across school libraries was wrong. It’s why you intimated it instead of declared it. Here you want to tell me no STATE has banned the book. I wish you’d just get to that so we can move on to the central point, which is that virtually all censorship in this country, like violence, comes from the right flank.

 

[Citizen]

yeah I got no respect for that either, zero

Who cares about what you respect. This is the USA. Freedom of religion and freedom from religion

 

[uptower]

 

[NatMorton]

No, what we know is your intimation that Huck Finn was banned across school libraries was wrong. It’s why you intimated it instead of declared it. Here you want to tell me no STATE has banned the book. I wish you’d just get to that so we can move on to the central point, which is that virtually all censorship in this country, like violence, comes from the right flank.

I never said Huck Finn was banned. It has been removed from many public school libraries because some find its use of the N-word offensive. Now I will do something you have singularly failed to do, back up my assertion with evidence:

US school stops teaching Huckleberry Finn because of 'use of the N-word'

Language in the landmark novel prompts Philadelphia school to drop the book from 11th-grade classes

www.theguardian.com

Your turn: I assert your claim that The Color Purple has been banned is wrong. One more time, either you can prove your claim or you cannot. Which is it?

 

[The Brad Dad]

I never said Huck Finn was banned. It has been removed from many public school libraries because some find its use of the N-word offensive. Now I will do something you have singularly failed to do, back up my assertion with evidence:

US school stops teaching Huckleberry Finn because of 'use of the N-word'

Language in the landmark novel prompts Philadelphia school to drop the book from 11th-grade classes

www.theguardian.com

Your turn: I assert your claim that The Color Purple has been banned is wrong. One more time, either you can prove your claim or you cannot. Which is it?

That is a decade old article, that you insist backs up a claim you said you didn’t make. But we now have proof you know how the internet works. Hop to it and come back with an argument or agreement.