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How religion declines around the world

For those that are interested there is an interesting correlation between how religious a country is and the level of happiness in those countries. There are indications that the happiest countries are much less religious…..China being an exception. We must ask ourselves the question if being happy outweighs being religious. Not interested in providing statistics…..anyone can look up happiness statistics…..
 
anatta said:
you dont know what you've got till it's gone
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Acknowledging reality is worth it.

Although I can respect and understand that participating in traditional religions can foster a sense of belonging and cultural identity.
Giving up those superstitious dogmas encourages a critical, evidence-based understanding of the world. It shifts focus from external, uncontrollable forces ( such as its "gods will") to internal skills and efforts, fostering personal accountability, instead of attaching accountability on invisible forces.

if one makes a superstition or mythological entity their "truth",
then they are living a lie.
 
Crakhobarbie said:
if one makes a superstition or mythological entity their "truth",
then they are living a lie.
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Reminds me of the advice of a major league veteran: Don’t let your routine become a superstition…..it can make development impossible….
 
Lisa said:
The world will be a much more moral place without theistic religion because the core idea of organized religion is blind obedience and not objective morality.
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History (and even today) has also shown religion tries to encourage or promote blind obedience, either through indoctrination or force.
 
Gordy327 said:
History (and even today) has also shown religion tries to encourage or promote blind obedience, either through indoctrination or force.
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I had a front row seat to cradle-to-grave indoctrination living in Egypt. Even the most casual of conversations evoked mentions of Allah. Egyptians had quotes from the Qur'an on their desks instead of family photos. You were never out of ear-shot of several mosques broadcasting the call to prayer 5 times a day. On Friday mornings they turned the volume to high and broadcast a fire and brimestone sermon, which invariably featured angry shouting.
 
stevecanuck said:
I had a front row seat to cradle-to-grave indoctrination living in Egypt. Even the most casual of conversations evoked mentions of Allah. Egyptians had quotes from the Qur'an on their desks instead of family photos. You were never out of ear-shot of several mosques broadcasting the call to prayer 5 times a day. On Friday mornings they turned the volume to high and broadcast a fire and brimestone sermon, which invariably featured angry shouting.
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Baptists and other evangelicals do the same thing, but in English. They are all a form of social pestilence. Stop focusing on just Islam.
 
stevecanuck said:
I had a front row seat to cradle-to-grave indoctrination living in Egypt. Even the most casual of conversations evoked mentions of Allah. Egyptians had quotes from the Qur'an on their desks instead of family photos. You were never out of ear-shot of several mosques broadcasting the call to prayer 5 times a day. On Friday mornings they turned the volume to high and broadcast a fire and brimestone sermon, which invariably featured angry shouting.
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That's my version of Hell.
 
Lisa said:
Baptists and other evangelicals do the same thing, but in English. They are all a form of social pestilence. Stop focusing on just Islam.
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Can all of the known Baptists terrorist organizations (I mean, there are SO many) match this list?

Hizb-i Islami-yi Afghanistan
Taliban
Haqqani Network
Groupe Islamique Armé (GIA)
Takfir wa’l Hijra
Armée Islamique du Salut (AIS)
Movement for Unity and Jihad in West Africa
AQIM
Bosnian mujahideen
Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya
Wilayat Sinai
Egyptian Islamic Jihad
Darul Islam
Jemaah Islamiya
Jundallah
Ansar al-Islam
Reformation and Jihad Front (RJF)
ISIS
Al-Mahdi Army (Jaysh al-Mahdi)
Ansar al-Sharia
Libya Dawn
Al-Murabitun (merger of MUJAO and Al-Mulathameen)
Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa (MUJAO)
Ansar Dine
Jama’atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda’awati wal-Jihad (Boko Haram)
Lashkar-e-Islam
Jamaat-ul-Ahrar
Lashkar-e-Jhangyi
Ansaar ul-Islam Pakistan
Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan
Abu Sayyaf Group
Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters
Imarat Kavkaz (Caucasus Emirate)
Al Shabaab
Hizbul Islam
Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya (AIAI)/Islamic Courts Union
Jabhat al-Nusra li al-Sham
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
 
Gordy327 said:
That's my version of Hell.
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When we got to Egypt we were housed in a temporary flat beside a mosque. Imagine being jarred awake at first light by a shouting mullah every Friday. Hell indeed, but then I volunteered for the job.
 
stevecanuck said:
When we got to Egypt we were housed in a temporary flat beside a mosque. Imagine being jarred awake at first light by a shouting mullah every Friday. Hell indeed, but then I volunteered for the job.
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Volunteering, that's on you buddy. 😆
 
Bok Tuklo said:
No group has done more to make the United States a post-Christian nation than the Republican Party.
“So long as religion relies upon feelings which are the consolation of every suffering, it may attract the human heart to itself. When it is mixed up with the bitter passions of this world, it is sometimes forced to defend allies who have joined it through self-interest and not through love; it has to repel as enemies men who, while fighting against those allies of religion, still love religion itself. . . .

As long as religion derives its strength from opinions, feelings, and emotions which are found to recur in the same form at every period of history, it can brave the assaults of time, or, at least, it can be destroyed only by some other religion. But when religion aims to depend upon the principles of this world, it becomes almost a vulnerable as all other powers on this earth.”

~ Alexis de Tocqueville

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Christianity is about gaining a relationship with the FATHER through CHRIST and the leading of the HOLY SPIRIT. It involves asking for forgiveness and seeking to have GOD direct one's choices and directing one's life. The Democratic Party and liberals in general have done more to limit access to Christian thought and the understanding of personal responsibility, while replacing GOD with Federal programs that have progressively promised to protect citizens from cradle to the grave regardless of one's choices. Christianity does incur some feelings and emotions, but so does life in general. However, Christianity also exults justice, righteousness, spiritual growth and maturity. It's not just about me, me, me... Sharing, caring, and education come into play.
 
gboisjo said:
There' a direct correlation between modern societies and declining religions. Look at the concussions the Christian Church has made to keep it numbers up in the USA.

There's a direct correlation between backward Middle Easterner's and its religiosity. They don' teach they're kids much math or science, instead they teach the children the Koran.
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Christianity is not about concessions. And where Christian churches have begun to practice a "social gospel" instead of promoting spiritual growth and maturity ----- such churches cease to be viable and lose Christian membership to other more biblically structured churches. The church I attend is growing with many new young families. And I find this is because some churches demonstrate the real power of the Bible and it isn't just historic reading material that many disregard. Once people see the practicality of the Word as a way to live and grow, they then begin to comprehend that what it reveals is truth. Those things/stories that they originally rejected become more logically viable as GOD becomes real.
 
LittleNipper said:
Christianity is about gaining a relationship with the FATHER through CHRIST and the leading of the HOLY SPIRIT. It involves asking for forgiveness and seeking to have GOD direct one's choices and directing one's life. The Democratic Party and liberals in general have done more to limit access to Christian thought and the understanding of personal responsibility, while replacing GOD with Federal programs that have progressively promised to protect citizens from cradle to the grave regardless of one's choices. Christianity does incur some feelings and emotions, but so does life in general. However, Christianity also exults justice, righteousness, spiritual growth and maturity. It's not just about me, me, me... Sharing, caring, and education come into play.
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Trump: ‘I Don’t Take Responsibility at All’​

 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not all powerful.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is not all good.

Is he both able and willing?
Then where cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not all powerful.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is not all good.

Is he both able and willing?
Then where cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
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I'll ask you...a question posed in the history forum...does might make right?
 
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