OK - I know this isn't going to be a popular post, but I'm sincere in my question. It has been on my mind for a very long time, especially with so many of the ways this President responds to our issues dealing with Islam and Terror. I'd like to know what other people honestly feel? Since none of us really know for sure, I'd just like to hear pros and cons about statement/feelings. I know his father seemed like a leader and later in life became a Muslim, I wonder too if that has any bearing.
Sorry, I made a typo I meant Islam in my title but don't know how to correct it.
OK - I know this isn't going to be a popular post, but I'm sincere in my question. It has been on my mind for a very long time, especially with so many of the ways this President responds to our issues dealing with Islam and Terror. I'd like to know what other people honestly feel? Since none of us really know for sure, I'd just like to hear pros and cons about statement/feelings. I know his father seemed like a leader and later in life became a Muslim, I wonder too if that has any bearing.
Sorry, I made a typo I meant Islam in my title but don't know how to correct it.
I would not be surprised, if he understands how valuable Islam was, when it was the religion of a more developed culture than the European. And he was certainly well briefed on the content, meaning and implicatiins of Islam sometime during the past 7 years. Is he a closet mullah? Now that would surprise me. He might not have been an ideal President and certainly messed up badly a few times. But he is not stupid.
I think because his birth father and his relatives and his step father and his relatives and his sister I think he is sensitive to Muslim issues.That doesn't mean he is a closet Muslim or secretly admires Islam.
But what if it does? What are the positives and negatives of having a Muslim President in the US of America? And if he was, why would he hide it prior to election or pretend he was a Christian?
This! Have nothing else to add, just... this.I think because his birth father and his relatives and his step father and his relatives and his sister I think he is sensitive to Muslim issues.That doesn't mean he is a closet Muslim or secretly admires Islam.
1. Obama is not Muslim. Get over it.
2. Muslim President? Why not. As long as he or she uploads the Constitution I really don't care what idol they pray to.
But why do you say he is not Muslim. What facts do you have to support that?
But why do you say he is not Muslim. What facts do you have to support that? I mean the video shown and his heritage, in my humble opinion, support more the idea that he is.
As far as your second comment - agreed. I don't care either as long as the trust is there that he / she upholds our constitution and I'll add, does the basic jobs as the President of our Country. Keeping the citizens safe is one of the very utmost responsibilities. If his direction and religion conflicts with this very obligation then don't we as citizens have the right to know and to stop it?
OK - I know this isn't going to be a popular post, but I'm sincere in my question. It has been on my mind for a very long time, especially with so many of the ways this President responds to our issues dealing with Islam and Terror. I'd like to know what other people honestly feel? Since none of us really know for sure, I'd just like to hear pros and cons about statement/feelings. I know his father seemed like a leader and later in life became a Muslim, I wonder too if that has any bearing.
Sorry, I made a typo I meant Islam in my title but don't know how to correct it.
Look, if you've already made up your mind, make your case as well. Nobody has to prove to you that he is this or isn't that, it's you that has to supply evidence.But why do you say he is not Muslim. What facts do you have to support that? I mean the video shown and his heritage, in my humble opinion, support more the idea that he is. ~.........................
I would never make the mistake of calling Obama a stupid man. But he took office claiming to be a Christian. And, since the Muslim religion is so different to the beliefs held by a vast majority of our citizens here in the US, doesn't he or shouldn't he have had a moral obligation to tell the public his true religious beliefs.
I mean, much of what he does with regards to letting into our country all of the not truly vetted immigrants of Muslim heritage impacts our country enormously.
Does he then have a conflict of interest with regards to his beliefs that they should be allowed into our country "no matter what".
What about also the possibility that he mandates leadership from the state department and the FBI etc. to look the other way with regards to Muslim's and potential threats.
Let's see the whole quote and where it came from. I guarantee you you are taking it out of context.Just the other day, a former assistant leader of the FBI, said himself that "the orders come down from the white house to basically stand down. Their hands are tied". Maybe this is why Omar Mateen was taking off watch lists. I mean, it does deserve to be investigated.
Take also that the wife of the shooter in San Bernardino walked around her apartment with bombs being made in the living area and she walks free to this day.
Certainly, there is more to all of this than the people (of all political affiliations) are being told.
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The burden of proof is on you, not Gaius.
You made the claim that Obama is a Muslim, so you must provide evidence/proof for that claim.
I would never make the mistake of calling Obama a stupid man. But he took office claiming to be a Christian. And, since the Muslim religion is so different to the beliefs held by a vast majority of our citizens here in the US, doesn't he or shouldn't he have had a moral obligation to tell the public his true religious beliefs.
I mean, much of what he does with regards to letting into our country all of the not truly vetted immigrants of Muslim heritage impacts our country enormously. Does he then have a conflict of interest with regards to his beliefs that they should be allowed into our country "no matter what". What about also the possibility that he mandates leadership from the state department and the FBI etc. to look the other way with regards to Muslim's and potential threats. Just the other day, a former assistant leader of the FBI, said himself that "the orders come down from the white house to basically stand down. Their hands are tied". Maybe this is why Omar Mateen was taking off watch lists. I mean, it does deserve to be investigated. Take also that the wife of the shooter in San Bernardino walked around her apartment with bombs being made in the living area and she walks free to this day.
Certainly, there is more to all of this than the people (of all political affiliations) are being told.
I would not be surprised, if he understands how valuable Islam was, when it was the religion of a more developed culture than the European. And he was certainly well briefed on the content, meaning and implicatiins of Islam sometime during the past 7 years. Is he a closet mullah? Now that would surprise me. He might not have been an ideal President and certainly messed up badly a few times. But he is not stupid.
Pre-Islamic Arab culture was valuable, imo, but absolutist Islam, the enemy of intolerance of new or changing ideas, slowly strangled it. Cultural advance requires free enquiry by independent scholars, something that Islam cannot permit.
Obama is not stupid, as you say. Nor, I think, is he particularly intelligent. I judge him to be ruled by his prejudices - one of which is that Islam is innately 'good'.
Obama has stated on any number of occasions that he is Christian. He was married at a Christian Church in Chicago. He attends services at a Christian church. There is no reason to disbelieve him when he says he is Christian.
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