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Well turtledude is a gun banner in those cases
that's like saying I am a kidnapper because I believe those convicted of armed robbery ought to be locked up against their will
just give it up-you are burying yourself in stupid posts. You're the gun banner and you aren't going to rehabilitate your reputation by claiming I am a gun banner because I believe people in prison or who have used guns to kill others in violation of the law should be banned from having weapons
that stupid tactic is up there with "if you think people should be able to own a GLOCK you must support them owning ICBMS"
its weak discredited nonsense that the anti gun moment has unsuccessfully spewed for years