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How many Christian refugees among the 25,000?

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Another profile on a Muslim family coming to Canada from the CBC.

We know that Christians are among the most vulnerable, but I've yet to see a Christian being featured on tv as among the refugees.

The former government had recognized that, thus Christians and other Muslim sects minorities were the priority for refugee status. Who can forget the desperate and dramatic rescue of these groups being pursued to the mountain for annihilation?

Who can dispute the fact that Christians are one of the most targetted groups by Islamists? The massacre at a university, where-in known Christians were selected and grouped together for killing as an example?



Why are we abandoning the Christians?

In all the self-righteous talk we’ve been hearing about Muslim refugees from Syria, who’s talking about the Christians? Over the past several years, no religious group has been more persecuted throughout the Middle East than the Christians. And yet, hardly a peep.

Yes, the Jewish way is not either/or. We’re supposed to be inclusive. So, with all the beautiful, heartfelt sentiment so many American Jews are expressing for Muslim refugees, why are we not including oppressed Christians in our hearts?

The current refugee system overwhelmingly favors Muslim refugees. Even though Christians represent more than 10 percent of the Syrian population, of the 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted to the United States so far, only 53 are Christians while 2,098 are Muslims.

This low number is tragic, because Christians living in Muslim lands are in especially dire straits. “ISIS and other extremist movements across the region,” Eliza Griswold wrote in The New York Times last July, “are enslaving, killing and uprooting Christians, with no aid in sight.”


Why are we abandoning the Christians? | David Suissa | Jewish Journal



Nothing much on mainstream media. As usual.



Iraq's Christians persecuted by ISIS - CBS News



Do we have a stat on how many Christians are among the 25,000 refugees that'll come to Canada?
 
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Another profile on a Muslim family coming to Canada from the CBC.

We know that Christians are among the most vulnerable, but I've yet to see a Christian being featured on tv as among the refugees.

The former government had recognized that, thus Christians and other Muslim sects minorities were the priority for refugee status. Who can forget the desperate and dramatic rescue of these groups being pursued to the mountain for annihilation?

Who can dispute the fact that Christians are one of the most targetted groups by Islamists? The massacre at a university, where-in known Christians were selected and grouped together for killing as an example?



Why are we abandoning the Christians?

In all the self-righteous talk we’ve been hearing about Muslim refugees from Syria, who’s talking about the Christians? Over the past several years, no religious group has been more persecuted throughout the Middle East than the Christians. And yet, hardly a peep.

Yes, the Jewish way is not either/or. We’re supposed to be inclusive. So, with all the beautiful, heartfelt sentiment so many American Jews are expressing for Muslim refugees, why are we not including oppressed Christians in our hearts?

The current refugee system overwhelmingly favors Muslim refugees. Even though Christians represent more than 10 percent of the Syrian population, of the 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted to the United States so far, only 53 are Christians while 2,098 are Muslims.

This low number is tragic, because Christians living in Muslim lands are in especially dire straits. “ISIS and other extremist movements across the region,” Eliza Griswold wrote in The New York Times last July, “are enslaving, killing and uprooting Christians, with no aid in sight.”


Why are we abandoning the Christians? | David Suissa | Jewish Journal

Nothing much on mainstream media. As usual.

Iraq's Christians persecuted by ISIS - CBS News

Do we have a stat on how many Christians are among the 25,000 refugees that'll come to Canada?

Scan and select. Obama said he had that in hand. But in general I would not worry so much about the religion of the entrants as their qualifications and attitudes to making their immigration work. Do they for instance think they will pay for higher education for their children?
 
Scan and select. Obama said he had that in hand. But in general I would not worry so much about the religion of the entrants as their qualifications and attitudes to making their immigration work. Do they for instance think they will pay for higher education for their children?

Obama has a hand in selecting refugees going to Canada?
 
Another profile on a Muslim family coming to Canada from the CBC.

We know that Christians are among the most vulnerable, but I've yet to see a Christian being featured on tv as among the refugees.

The former government had recognized that, thus Christians and other Muslim sects minorities were the priority for refugee status. Who can forget the desperate and dramatic rescue of these groups being pursued to the mountain for annihilation?

Who can dispute the fact that Christians are one of the most targetted groups by Islamists? The massacre at a university, where-in known Christians were selected and grouped together for killing as an example?



Why are we abandoning the Christians?

In all the self-righteous talk we’ve been hearing about Muslim refugees from Syria, who’s talking about the Christians? Over the past several years, no religious group has been more persecuted throughout the Middle East than the Christians. And yet, hardly a peep.

Yes, the Jewish way is not either/or. We’re supposed to be inclusive. So, with all the beautiful, heartfelt sentiment so many American Jews are expressing for Muslim refugees, why are we not including oppressed Christians in our hearts?

The current refugee system overwhelmingly favors Muslim refugees. Even though Christians represent more than 10 percent of the Syrian population, of the 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted to the United States so far, only 53 are Christians while 2,098 are Muslims.

This low number is tragic, because Christians living in Muslim lands are in especially dire straits. “ISIS and other extremist movements across the region,” Eliza Griswold wrote in The New York Times last July, “are enslaving, killing and uprooting Christians, with no aid in sight.”


Why are we abandoning the Christians? | David Suissa | Jewish Journal



Nothing much on mainstream media. As usual.



Iraq's Christians persecuted by ISIS - CBS News



Do we have a stat on how many Christians are among the 25,000 refugees that'll come to Canada?

Nothing in anything you've linked to says Christians have been abandoned. Are you asking for a quota?
 
Another profile on a Muslim family coming to Canada from the CBC.

We know that Christians are among the most vulnerable, but I've yet to see a Christian being featured on tv as among the refugees.

The former government had recognized that, thus Christians and other Muslim sects minorities were the priority for refugee status. Who can forget the desperate and dramatic rescue of these groups being pursued to the mountain for annihilation?

Who can dispute the fact that Christians are one of the most targetted groups by Islamists? The massacre at a university, where-in known Christians were selected and grouped together for killing as an example?



Why are we abandoning the Christians?

In all the self-righteous talk we’ve been hearing about Muslim refugees from Syria, who’s talking about the Christians? Over the past several years, no religious group has been more persecuted throughout the Middle East than the Christians. And yet, hardly a peep.

Yes, the Jewish way is not either/or. We’re supposed to be inclusive. So, with all the beautiful, heartfelt sentiment so many American Jews are expressing for Muslim refugees, why are we not including oppressed Christians in our hearts?

The current refugee system overwhelmingly favors Muslim refugees. Even though Christians represent more than 10 percent of the Syrian population, of the 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted to the United States so far, only 53 are Christians while 2,098 are Muslims.

This low number is tragic, because Christians living in Muslim lands are in especially dire straits. “ISIS and other extremist movements across the region,” Eliza Griswold wrote in The New York Times last July, “are enslaving, killing and uprooting Christians, with no aid in sight.”


Why are we abandoning the Christians? | David Suissa | Jewish Journal



Nothing much on mainstream media. As usual.



Iraq's Christians persecuted by ISIS - CBS News



Do we have a stat on how many Christians are among the 25,000 refugees that'll come to Canada?

This nonsense has to stop.

ALL groups in that area are at risk. The Islamic extremists have been targeting Muslims as well. It's rather insidious to state that Christians are the group most at risk, during a humanitarian crisis affecting everybody.
 
Minorities need to pick themselves up in the face of adversity. They can't rely on government handouts.
 
Nothing in anything you've linked to says Christians have been abandoned. Are you asking for a quota?

I'm not saying Canada is abandoning Christians. The former government had identified Christians to be among the most vulnerable thus they had issued a policy that Christians were the first priority. The oppositions opposed that plan.

The Trudeau government had specifically stated that they'd take in the most vulnerable - women, children and gays.
Nothing is mentioned about Christians. That's what's concerning - that Christians are never mentioned when they talk about vulnerable groups!

Christians are among the most vulnerable, and also some minority religions.

I'm asking, how many Christians are we taking?

Yes, it would be nice that for every wave of refugees that come, that we (tax-payers), should be given a run down as to how many such and such had entered so far. How many women....children....gays....Christians....Yasidic...and other vulnerable ethnic groups....
 
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The Lebanon UNHRC fields refugees that meet the requirement of Canada.


President Obama declared Monday that there should be no religious test for refugees fleeing a bloody Syrian civil war and the expanding reach of ISIS, but critics contend the current refugee placement process is rigged against Christians.


Refugee resettlement process leaves Syrian Christians in the cold | Fox News


Canada must do its share to stipulate to the Lebanon UNHCR how many Christians would constitute the list!
 
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This nonsense has to stop.

ALL groups in that area are at risk. The Islamic extremists have been targeting Muslims as well. It's rather insidious to state that Christians are the group most at risk, during a humanitarian crisis affecting everybody.

Then why specify gays? And women and children?
 
There are no Christian women or gays? A refugee is first and foremost a refugee. The rest is irrelevant luxury.
 
Personally, my only concern was related to security issues and the potential for terrorist infiltration among those we in Canada sponsor. The government came to sanity, regardless of how late, and decided that rushing compliance with a campaign promise wasn't prudent and I applaud them for that. They also took my suggestion of concentrating on entire family units that could be properly screened with known histories as well as orphaned children and excluded single war age males without any ties. That too will greatly cut down on the incidence of terrorists getting through.

There are over 4 million Syrian refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey so our 25,000 is but a drop in the bucket but it is a start. The particular religious faith/affiliation of any one family is of little interest to me. There are good, honest, decent, respectful and contributing people in all religious faiths and among those with no faith interests at all. They can all fit in in Canada where basically the entire world is part of our multi-faceted mosaic.
 
Personally, my only concern was related to security issues and the potential for terrorist infiltration among those we in Canada sponsor. The government came to sanity, regardless of how late, and decided that rushing compliance with a campaign promise wasn't prudent and I applaud them for that. They also took my suggestion of concentrating on entire family units that could be properly screened with known histories as well as orphaned children and excluded single war age males without any ties. That too will greatly cut down on the incidence of terrorists getting through.

There are over 4 million Syrian refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey so our 25,000 is but a drop in the bucket but it is a start. The particular religious faith/affiliation of any one family is of little interest to me. There are good, honest, decent, respectful and contributing people in all religious faiths and among those with no faith interests at all. They can all fit in in Canada where basically the entire world is part of our multi-faceted mosaic.


I'm not ignoring the fact that regardless of faith or lack of it, there are folks who'd fit nicely in our society.
My concern is the sudden lack of mention at all about a group that's considered most vulnerable: Christians. It seems like a sudden turn around from having been identified by the previous government as the priority for refugee status (which the oppositions had vigorously opposed), to suddenly having been left out being mentioned at all! Like this is mainly politics, and not about humanitarian effort at all!

Some critics would say that more Muslims had died from Assad's. Well of course there will be a lot more Muslims killed in a civil war when Assad was indiscriminately bombing places - just by the sheer population stats alone, Christians are a minority, Syria is predominantly Muslim - therefore, tho there are Christians killed in the civil war, more Muslims are killed!

However, Christians are specifically targetted by ISIS and other Islamist groups, simply for what they are. That's the difference.
 
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We know that Christians are among the most vulnerable, ......................



........................Who can dispute the fact that Christians are one of the most targetted groups by Islamists?
What daft statements in the usual pursuit of own bigoted agenda.

The "group" suffering most from Islamic extremism is Muslims. And what the hell does THAT matter?

Refugees are refugees, favoring those that believe as you do, because they believe as you do, is the height of hypocrisy.

Disgusting. :failpail:
 
I'm not ignoring the fact that regardless of faith or lack of it, there are folks who'd fit nicely in our society.
My concern is the sudden lack of mention at all about a group that's considered most vulnerable: Christians. It seems like a sudden turn around from having been identified by the previous government as the priority for refugee status (which the oppositions had vigorously opposed), to suddenly having been left out being mentioned at all! Like this is mainly politics, and not about humanitarian effort at all!

Some critics would say that more Muslims had died from Assad's. Well of course there will be a lot more Muslims killed in a civil war when Assad was indiscriminately bombing places - just by the sheer population stats alone, Christians are a minority, Syria is predominantly Muslim - therefore, tho there are Christians killed in the civil war, more Muslims are killed!

However, Christians are specifically targetted by ISIS and other Islamist groups, simply for what they are. That's the difference.

Personally, as I've said, I'm quite fine with religion not being a qualifier or disqualifier when it comes to selecting refugees suitable for relocation to Canada. I want to see us focus on young nuclear families - husband/wife/children - orphaned children who are sponsored, and those who already have family in Canada who can sponsor and support their transition to our country and way of life.
 
Personally, as I've said, I'm quite fine with religion not being a qualifier or disqualifier when it comes to selecting refugees suitable for relocation to Canada. I want to see us focus on young nuclear families - husband/wife/children - orphaned children who are sponsored, and those who already have family in Canada who can sponsor and support their transition to our country and way of life.

I would like that too, putting focus on those who already have families here. Transition would be more effective.

Private-sponsorship too, would be great....it eases the burden on the government since I assume that the sponsors would know more info about the individual(s) they're sponsoring, and from what was learned from the previous government, there are numerous Christian organizations that are involved in this.
 
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Why would you bother? That's a pretty empty-headed response.

Why would I bother to screen and select? You are trying to be funny. Right?
 
Personally, my only concern was related to security issues and the potential for terrorist infiltration among those we in Canada sponsor. The government came to sanity, regardless of how late, and decided that rushing compliance with a campaign promise wasn't prudent and I applaud them for that. They also took my suggestion of concentrating on entire family units that could be properly screened with known histories as well as orphaned children and excluded single war age males without any ties. That too will greatly cut down on the incidence of terrorists getting through.

There are over 4 million Syrian refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey so our 25,000 is but a drop in the bucket but it is a start. The particular religious faith/affiliation of any one family is of little interest to me. There are good, honest, decent, respectful and contributing people in all religious faiths and among those with no faith interests at all. They can all fit in in Canada where basically the entire world is part of our multi-faceted mosaic.

Well said.
Yes the Govt waited, and when they felt the time was right, stated they could not meet the targets.
The 25 K by year end was all BS. But yes they should have had clarity on the policy within the 1st week or 2 max.
 
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