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How long would Trump last under Oath?

How badly would Trump perjure himself if he had to testify under Oath before Congress?

  • He would never lie at all no matter how long he was questioned.

    Votes: 3 5.6%

  • He might get caught in at most 1 perjury trap in a span of 11 hours.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I mean I'm sure if anybody had to testify for 11 hours they make at least a few false statements.

    Votes: 3 5.6%

  • I bet he'd get at least an hour or two in

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No way he gets through the first hour without at least 5 perjury charges

    Votes: 12 22.2%

  • Are you kidding? I'm not sure he could get past the state your name part without lying 8 times.

    Votes: 36 66.7%
  • Total voters
    54
MrWonka said:
Ahh yes. So now you admit that you don't want democracy? Whose the un-American one here? That's you.
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Nope, we're a Republic and he's 'gotcha'. Just like he's got that French fool who wrote Democracy in America. And anyone else since ancient Athens who foolishly thought they were living in a democracy just because they vote sometimes.
 
American said:
It's good to know you're an enemy of the Constitution and separation of powers.
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You're going to label me an "enemy of the Constitution" because I express support for a feature of parliamentary republics?
 
HumblePi said:
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(This is Photoshopped, BTW. :lol:)
 
jghiretire said:
Hillary won the popular vote.
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Doesn't matter does it? If she'd got off her lazy butt and campaign some she would have been sitting in the Oval Office today. Hillary ceded the campaign trail to Trump, she let Trump both out work and out campaign her. From 1 Sep 2016 through 8 Dec 2016 Trump made 116 campaign visits/stops/appearances/rallies to Hillary's 71. Never in our history has one candidate let the other out campaign and out work them by that huge a margin.

Look at the deciding states, Wisconsin Trump 5 visits/stops to Hillary's none, zero. That's right, she never bothered to go to Wisconsin. She probably thought she had that state in the bag. Probably Michigan also, Trump 6 visits/stops to Hillary's one. Pennsylvania was much closer, 8 for Trump, 5 for Hillary. Even in Electoral vote rich Florida, 29 electoral votes, Hillary ceded that state to Trump too. 13 visits/stops to and in Florida for Trump, 8 for Hillary.

My take, if Hillary didn't have that fire in the belly or enough gumption to get out and work at getting elected, she should never of ran. She should have let someone else have the nomination who would at least campaign, give all they got.
 
Journeyman said:
Good stuff there. Thanks for the continuing nice and well thought out replies. You sound a lot like how my father describes many of his friends.

On the religion in public places, I often think of the line, "When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." Its a bit trite and certainly not a one size fits all pearl of wisdom, but I do find some truth in it.

As for the shootings, there is definitely something different, but I don't know if we could ever pin it down because so many things are different from the way-back. Your link mentions mental health, and we have definitely changed the way we handle that (some good, some perhaps less so). Our world has also gotten smaller. More people in less space. Also, much harder to disappear now if things aren't working out. Certainly race relations are different now. Along those lines and for a positive societal change, compare lynching statistics to mass shooting statistics. I'm not claiming at all that they are related or anything, but in the year of the first mass shooting (germany-1913) there were 52 lynchings in the US. Society has changed in hundreds of ways over the last century and there certainly aren't any easy answers.
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No easy answers for sure. We used to lock up or put the mentally ill in hospitals, now we don't. Good or bad, I don't know. Your line on religion is true and aptly applies. When I went to school they'd play the national anthem and then say a prayer before a High School football or basketball game. The prayer is long gone, but one old enough to remember when that was the case certainly would feel his religion is being persecuted. Change can be a bummer to some, god sent to others.

It's all true about the number of people we have living today and the total lack of space. Perhaps its easier today living on top of people to get angrier or bothered by them which leads to more shootings. Being born and raised on a farm, when I wanted to be left alone or to work off some steam, I'd just go back to our woods. We had around 20 acres of woods on the farm. Hard for a city boy to do that.
 
MrWonka said:
If Donald Trump had the guts to actually show up and testify before Congress under oath about the various investigations into his campaign and administration how long do you think he would last under oath without perjuring himself? Hillary Clinton for the record went 11 hours straight and Republicans couldn't come up with a single solitary false statement to charge her with.
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That would depend on what the definition of "is" is.
 
MrWonka said:
If Donald Trump had the guts to actually show up and testify before Congress under oath about the various investigations into his campaign and administration how long do you think he would last under oath without perjuring himself? Hillary Clinton for the record went 11 hours straight and Republicans couldn't come up with a single solitary false statement to charge her with.
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Not more than 30 minutes, he is a habitual liar.
 
I seriously don't think he could last five minutes without making a false statement.
 
Trump lies and says outrageous things deliberately. He does it to control the narrative. During the campaign, Trump at least weekly said or tweeted something outrageous in order to keep the spotlight on him and his campaign. It worked like a charm. The only time any other GOP candidate was asked anything it was to get their reaction to Trump's outrageous statements.

As president, Trump continues this practice because this way he can control the public discourse. When he wants to change the focus, he typically tweets something totally unrelated and verifiably false. Now the focus is on that and not on whatever it was we were looking at.

When you're not under oath, lying is not a crime. Trump knows this. And lying is a very useful tool to accomplish his goals. His base doesn't care what he lies about, big or little. The GOP senators do not fear Trump, but they do fear his base, who can primary them if they dare to call Trump on his lies.

As things go, it is important that Trump not be put under oath. This would create serious problems for those GOP senators who would then be obligated to defend Trump's perjury.
 
How long would any of us last under oath? Not long, I'm thinkin'
 
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